Re: #23 - Arturo Vidal

by S Fri Feb 05, 2016 6:59 am

El Mercurio: Vidal will leave #FCBayern in the summer due to non-adaptation & Simeone wants him at Atletico Madrid.

hmm

Sold him at the right time Proud

by Hapless_Hans Fri Feb 05, 2016 10:31 am

El Vesuvio reports we'll get Pogba as replacement. hmm

by S Fri Feb 05, 2016 11:57 am

Great business for 40m imo.Paying 10m salary for a past it player rofl

by Hapless_Hans Fri Feb 05, 2016 12:23 pm

We just lulled you into a feeling of safety in order to get Coman.

by S Fri Feb 05, 2016 12:37 pm

Pretty sure Coman will become obsolete once Carlo takes over so all's good Proud

Back to Vidal, seems like he's taking his drunkard habits to the next level.Stepping up his game rather nicely tbh.

by Hapless_Hans Fri Feb 05, 2016 1:16 pm

Some of our greatest legends are drunkards.

by jibers Fri Feb 05, 2016 1:34 pm

The guy looks overweight. Seriously wtf is going on here Laughing

by Hapless_Hans Fri Feb 05, 2016 1:38 pm

Vidal is fine.

Worry about your own stuff jibers. Like preparing ways to cheer José Mourinho at Manchester United.

by S Fri Feb 05, 2016 1:46 pm

jibers wrote:The guy looks overweight. Seriously wtf is going on here

He is not done with Oktoberfest yet.

by jibers Fri Feb 05, 2016 2:27 pm

Hapless_Hans wrote:Vidal is fine.

Worry about your own stuff jibers. Like preparing ways to cheer José Mourinho at Manchester United.

WTF would I care what goes on at United? I'm a City fan.

by S Sat Feb 06, 2016 6:59 am

Great Leader Sprucenuce wrote:Plays with Chile under a heavily inspired Bielsa styled team.... people worry about him fitting him under Pep.

Seems legit.

A comment from a Bayern fan :

Watch the next game. He's as useless for a Pep team as Schweinsteiger was. Speaking of which, Schweinsteiger recorded his highest goal-to-game ratios during his last two seasons at Bayern...under Pep...playing arguably his worst performances of his career.

I like Vidal, don't get me wrong. I was a huge fan of him when he was at Leverkusen and have been supporting his move here for years. But it hurts to watch him struggle with the wuick-one-touch passing, the lack of positional and tactical awareness, and the total obliviousness of which players are around him. Vidal (or any box-to-box mid) under Pep is quite simply a liability.

Coman, Kimmich, Boateng, Alaba, and Neuer have all shined greatly under Pep.

Pep

by Hapless_Hans Sat Feb 06, 2016 9:18 am

First of all, Mole's point still stands.

Secondly, it's very possible Vidal was already bought with Ancelotti in mind, since there's reports that Pep's decision for City was fixed as of beginning 2015.

by VivaStPauli Sat Feb 06, 2016 12:48 pm

Hapless_Hans wrote:Some of our greatest legends are drunkards.

All the important ones.

Gerd Müller, the Kaiser, Hoeness, Effenberg, Basler if you count him as one of yours. The list goes on.

by Hapless_Hans Sat Feb 06, 2016 1:27 pm

Mario Basler is my favourite player ever so yes I was definitively counting him as one of ours.
Lothar is the other one I'd mention. What a god.

Both surely not averse to one or 15 Hefeweizen.

by Onyx Sat Feb 06, 2016 8:21 pm

Wait, so Vidal for Chile does all the tippy tappy passing, is extremely creative and roams around the field and links up play using his extraordinary agility/dribbling in tight spaces? Either Chile don't use Pep's system or Vidal turns into someone else when he plays for his NT. I'm banking on Chile playing a more aggressive style with the possession not being as intricate as Pep requires of his sides.

by S Sat Feb 06, 2016 8:26 pm

Onyx wrote:Wait, so Vidal for Chile does all the tippy tappy passing, is extremely creative and roams around the field and links up play using his extraordinary agility/dribbling in tight spaces? Either Chile don't use Pep's system or Vidal turns into someone else when he plays for his NT. I'm banking on Chile playing a more aggressive style with the possession not being as intricate as Pep requires of his sides.

Never understood why Chile's style was compared to Pep's teams in the first place.

by futbol Sat Feb 06, 2016 8:30 pm

Both teams use heavy pressing ... and ...

...

that's it.

by Hapless_Hans Sat Feb 06, 2016 9:00 pm

None of your business. Go home everyone. Nothing to see here.

Spoiler:

by Great Leader Sprucenuce Sat Feb 06, 2016 9:08 pm

S wrote:
Onyx wrote:Wait, so Vidal for Chile does all the tippy tappy passing, is extremely creative and roams around the field and links up play using his extraordinary agility/dribbling in tight spaces? Either Chile don't use Pep's system or Vidal turns into someone else when he plays for his NT. I'm banking on Chile playing a more aggressive style with the possession not being as intricate as Pep requires of his sides.

Never understood why Chile's style was compared to Pep's teams in the first place.

Pep himself said he that he took a lot from Bielsa and put into his own style of management.

There's quiet clearly quite a lot of similarities, especially considering Bayern's wingers/forwards have a lot of freedom in much the same way and how the midfield and back 3 operates.

If we are talking about Barca then sure, but Bayern are very different to Pep under Barca.

by futbol Sat Feb 06, 2016 9:16 pm

Great Leader Sprucenuce wrote:
S wrote:
Onyx wrote:Wait, so Vidal for Chile does all the tippy tappy passing, is extremely creative and roams around the field and links up play using his extraordinary agility/dribbling in tight spaces? Either Chile don't use Pep's system or Vidal turns into someone else when he plays for his NT. I'm banking on Chile playing a more aggressive style with the possession not being as intricate as Pep requires of his sides.

Never understood why Chile's style was compared to Pep's teams in the first place.

Pep himself said he that he took a lot from Bielsa and put into his own style of management.

Pep is the master of false humility and over-the-top praises though. If you asked him directly, he'd tell you that he also learned a lot from Mourinho. Pep Coach of The Year speech in 2011: "First of all I want to share this award with Mr. Mourinho ... blablabla" hmm

by Great Leader Sprucenuce Sat Feb 06, 2016 9:20 pm

Even ignoring that this Bayern has more in common with Chile and Bielsa teams than it does Spain and Barca IMO. hmm

To the point they fall away at end of seasons. hmm

by Onyx Sat Feb 06, 2016 9:28 pm

The thing with Vidal is his style doesn't maximise the effectiveness of Pep's system. Like I said, players like he or Khedira can play a role and to some extent can be classed as good or successful, but they won't maximise it due to their skill set.

Maybe that's what Vidal does for Chile?

by Great Leader Sprucenuce Sat Feb 06, 2016 9:31 pm

Well his role isn't the same as it is for Chile even if i do believe the system isn't that drastically different because Bayern have more players who can perform the role.

He plays a lot closer to Sanchez and Vargas than he does to Lewa and Muller for Bayern.

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