Re: #23 - Arturo Vidal

by Hapless_Hans Tue Jul 21, 2015 9:59 pm

On topic, I think Vidal will be a great addition. No homo.

by Hapless_Hans Thu Jul 23, 2015 9:57 am

Rummenigge confirmed that everythings agreed and there's only the medical left to do.
Fee apparently around 35m €. Feel like it's really not THAT much, especially if one remembers last summer Laughing

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What are your feelings, S?

by S Thu Jul 23, 2015 10:04 am

Garbage deal for us.

And no Götze as well.

€45m would've been a fairer deal for us.Really disappointing.

But to be frank, Vidal wasn't up to his usual standards until the CL ties against Dortmund where he rediscovered his old form again.
Still in today's market,€ 45m would've been fairer despite his off field issues
Bayern owning in the market once again.Still haven't paid more than €40m for a player. Proud

Prudent business once again.Congrats.

by Vlad the Impaler Thu Jul 23, 2015 10:12 am

Salut Surag! Ce mai faci?

You gave Vidal, you bought Khedira; Pirlo went, who will replace him? Give me some info about the way you see Juve without Vidal next season. Time for Sturaro to play for Juve?

by Hapless_Hans Thu Jul 23, 2015 10:14 am

The thing with Götze is, I really don't think he wants to leave yet.
And the club doesn't want to offload him.
Contrary to all the media rumbling, he'll get at least another year yet to increase his impact for us, and I don't think he's that unhappy, or Pep that unhappy with him, as it's made out to be.

I could be wrong of course, and things might change if City push hard for De Bruyne and we want to intercept that deal this summer.

That would also mean the end of the 40m barrier Laughing

I'm not getting too excited about Vidal simply for the reason he was supposed to join us in 2011 for 15m € or so and then went to Juve instead.
So we're paying more for an older Vidal.
But it's not like we've been doing bad in between.

If we assume our midfield missed a certain tenacity and grit in challenges, with Schweini, Lahm and Alonso, Vidal will be a good addition.

Martinez' knee is still trouble.

Wonder what this means for Rode and Höjberg though.

by S Thu Jul 23, 2015 10:20 am

Vlad the Impaler wrote:Salut Surag! Ce mai faci?

You gave Vidal, you bought Khedira; Pirlo went, who will replace him? Give me some info about the way you see Juve without Vidal next season. Time for Sturaro to play for Juve?

Asamoah will move back to midfield I reckon.We'll sign a new LB(Alex Sandro, Kurzawa or Siquiera)
So the midfield would comprise of : Marchisio , Pogba, Khedira, Sturaro, Asamoah, Pereyra.
Still, it doesn't look that bad.
For AM, Draxler is likely to sign.

by Hapless_Hans Thu Jul 23, 2015 10:22 am

In all the (few) games I saw, I thought Marchisio was your best player anyway.

by Vlad the Impaler Thu Jul 23, 2015 10:24 am

Alex Sandro, Kurzawa or Siquiera to be Evra's possible substitute?

Midfield looks nike on paper with Draxler AM, I didn't know Asamoah can play in the central axis.

Hapless_Hans wrote:In all the (few) games I saw, I thought Marchisio was your best player anyway.

Yep, Vidal was in decline last season, especially when it came about scoring and the last third of the pitch.

by S Thu Jul 23, 2015 10:30 am

Asamoah is actually a beast CM.We kinda stalled his development by playing him as a LB/LWB Laughing

And do agree Marchisio was our best midfielder last year.And he'll play the entire season at DM unlike previous season.Really looking forward to it.

by Vlad the Impaler Thu Jul 23, 2015 10:30 am

S wrote:Asamoah is actually a beast CM.We kinda stalled his development by playing him as a LB/LWB

And do agree Marchisio was our best midfielder last year.And he'll play the entire season at DM unlike previous season.Really looking forward to it.

Marchisio to take Pirlo's role and play behind the other midfielders?

by S Thu Jul 23, 2015 10:36 am

Vlad the Impaler wrote:
S wrote:Asamoah is actually a beast CM.We kinda stalled his development by playing him as a LB/LWB

And do agree Marchisio was our best midfielder last year.And he'll play the entire season at DM unlike previous season.Really looking forward to it.

Marchisio to take Pirlo's role and play behind the other midfielders?

Yeah most likely.Marchisio is world class in that position.

Our midfield depth is the only reason I'm not that upset about Vidal's loss.Either ways exciting season ahead.

by Hapless_Hans Thu Jul 23, 2015 10:44 am

Interesting to see how it goes for Draxler if it indeed happens (I have my doubts as he's expensive).

His last seasons weren't good, whether because of injuries, positional uncertainties, Schalke being a shit club in general, or him not being all that after all.
Still very young, so he might blossom.

Still feel like out of Schalke's AM youngsters, Max Meyer would be the one to get. Goretzka too is one to watch.

If Schalke sell Draxler for 35m and get Shaqiri for 15m, interesting to see which player proves more valuable in the long run.

Then again Schalke also lost Farfan, which I don't get tbh.

As for Juve's midfield, one can assume Pogba's only going to improve too. Let's not forget he's just about at the beginning.

by S Thu Jul 23, 2015 10:50 am

There is no way we paying €35m for him Laughing

If Schalke don't budge from their request, then the transfer is definitely not happening.

by Hapless_Hans Thu Jul 23, 2015 10:52 am

That's what I meant with 'I have my doubts'.

by rwo power Thu Jul 23, 2015 11:37 am

Hapless_Hans wrote:Then again Schalke also lost Farfan, which I don't get tbh.

Jefferson Farfán is great when fit. The problem is that he wasn't fit for quite a while lately, and with 30 years of age, he might not fully recover at all.

by Great Leader Sprucenuce Thu Jul 23, 2015 11:39 am

rwo power wrote:
Hapless_Hans wrote:Then again Schalke also lost Farfan, which I don't get tbh.
Jefferson Farfán is great when fit. The problem is that he wasn't fit for quite a while lately, and with 30 years of age, he might not fully recover at all.

Ohhhhhhh, what do you have to say about this Farcefan hmm