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@Tom:
I think that we have enough depth for a 433... 5 Great CMs fighting for 3 spots! (Markizio, Pogba, Pirlo, Vidal, Asamoah)
For defence? Hmmmm.. Peluso is gone lol I wish him good luck <3 De Ceglie and Motta back? You forgot about Ogbonna... So Chiellini, Ogbonna, Bonnuci, Barzagli fighting for CB... and Caceres, lichtsteiner fighting for RB... LB? This is what we currently need... Unless De Ceglie does't get sold.
Caceres can play LB too... So I think we are good, and having more depth shouldn't be on the top of our list.
I think that we have enough depth for a 433... 5 Great CMs fighting for 3 spots! (Markizio, Pogba, Pirlo, Vidal, Asamoah)
For defence? Hmmmm.. Peluso is gone lol I wish him good luck <3 De Ceglie and Motta back? You forgot about Ogbonna... So Chiellini, Ogbonna, Bonnuci, Barzagli fighting for CB... and Caceres, lichtsteiner fighting for RB... LB? This is what we currently need... Unless De Ceglie does't get sold.
Caceres can play LB too... So I think we are good, and having more depth shouldn't be on the top of our list.
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Eleven meters - And yet the market is moving Juve ...
"And yet it moves" the market Juve .... how! At last we are beginning to see movements in output and input. The Bianconeri are moving pawns, collecting pennies and focusing their goals. I had already written in the past that the market for Juve, paradoxically, this year would be difficult, very difficult, and so it is proving. Improve a team that has dominated in Italy for 3 years is not easy, give new impetus to the players fresh from the triumphs of these 3 years will not be easy, add to this that the samples available in the market are few and those few that there are cost expensive or otherwise have valuations absurd. The Bianconeri did not have large financial resources to spend on the market and are in a sense self-financing: first then buy yield, possibly taking advantage of the opportunities that the market offers. E 'come the young and very promising Coman (will be the first team and seems to be predestined ... we'll see), Juve took Sturaro that will remain another year at Genoa, greeted the company Peluso and Vucinic, others will do the suitcases. Marotta sidelined with supplies 9.5 million (Building), 7.5 million, payable in three years from Sassuolo (Zaza), 6 million (Vucinic) and can sit at the negotiating table by not having a little nest egg. This money will be used for all Iturbe. And 'He's the real great buy for the Bianconeri. Count strong tip on Argentina considered ideal for the 4-3-3 that the coach has in mind Salento. Sure it costs peanuts (25 million + 2 bonus), but if we consider the age and the relatively low salary of the young Argentine, the spending will pay for itself over the years. Iturbe In short, for me is worth the investment. I am convinced that with the care Conte and playing in a top team, in a year Iturbe will be worth at least twice. Another player that Juventus is Alvaro Morata, Spanish strongly wanted Juve and refused all the proposals that have come from other teams (Monaco in the first place), also proposed more advantageous than those eagle. Morata, however, is a tough guy, he wanted to Juve and had. The Real Falcao fired and eventually indulged Morata did not want to make the reservation of luxury at the end of the agreement it was found, 18 million to Real and the clause with the possibility for Spaniards to buy back the player at a figure more than 30 million (we are talking 33-35 million). To me this seems an fantastic. Do not be fooled by the speech of the clause. It is said that the real face and assert, however, Juve would gain a great gain. Another player who seems in fact Evra is black and white, en route with Manchester United, the French would be a reinforcement of experience really important especially in key Champions. Evra only to miss the official announcement. Finally Juve will have a left-back role, a true champion (it was the time of Zambrotta on the wing was missing a left-handed quarterback like that), I mean Juve after sowing in silence is reaping the rewards. However, it remains to plug a leak not least, we need at least a strong central defender. Barzagli will be out 3 months and this makes it absolutely necessary to buy one or two central defenders. Juve need a world-class defender because the big teams are based by the defense, Juve has built its success on defense and should continue to do so. Nastasic has been linked to Juventus, it would be a big blow but Rome was in the lead and can exploit the fact that the City would like Benatar, Roma have fired more than 30 million Nastasic, you are dealing with but it will not be easy to close. Remain in the background Astori, Balanta (still immature in my opinion). I think Juve should first fix the defense. The market recovers from there. There will be no surprises and news in the coming days. Expect a week full of events, talks and announcements, the rally is approaching and the Count wants to work with someone already in the new shop. One thing must be said and emphasized: in a tough market for Italian teams and asphyxiated because with little money Juve is distinguishing, is putting in fresh forces and rejuvenating the team. Now serving other 2/3 shots and you can begin to enjoy the styling and impressive 4-3-3 formation. But I am afraid that there may be a transfer illustrious (Pogba? Vidal?) Because the roda Juve needs at least 3 other players, and I do not think that there is some money in cash for new shots, so you have to force someone to surrender. The eligible candidates are the usual midfield but also Isla (estimated 7-8 million). Now, however, Juve is enjoying his triple shot, waiting for the next steps, of course Tevez a trident-Morata (Llorente) - Iturbe is so much stuff. It is the unknown Giovinco (will?) And it remains to be seen whether Juventus will be able to trim down requests for Pogba and Vidal. Keep your samples is the first brick to triumph again in Italy and to make way in the Champions League. If Juve could not assign or Pogba Vidal then you can have fun .. Until the end ...
"And yet it moves" the market Juve .... how! At last we are beginning to see movements in output and input. The Bianconeri are moving pawns, collecting pennies and focusing their goals. I had already written in the past that the market for Juve, paradoxically, this year would be difficult, very difficult, and so it is proving. Improve a team that has dominated in Italy for 3 years is not easy, give new impetus to the players fresh from the triumphs of these 3 years will not be easy, add to this that the samples available in the market are few and those few that there are cost expensive or otherwise have valuations absurd. The Bianconeri did not have large financial resources to spend on the market and are in a sense self-financing: first then buy yield, possibly taking advantage of the opportunities that the market offers. E 'come the young and very promising Coman (will be the first team and seems to be predestined ... we'll see), Juve took Sturaro that will remain another year at Genoa, greeted the company Peluso and Vucinic, others will do the suitcases. Marotta sidelined with supplies 9.5 million (Building), 7.5 million, payable in three years from Sassuolo (Zaza), 6 million (Vucinic) and can sit at the negotiating table by not having a little nest egg. This money will be used for all Iturbe. And 'He's the real great buy for the Bianconeri. Count strong tip on Argentina considered ideal for the 4-3-3 that the coach has in mind Salento. Sure it costs peanuts (25 million + 2 bonus), but if we consider the age and the relatively low salary of the young Argentine, the spending will pay for itself over the years. Iturbe In short, for me is worth the investment. I am convinced that with the care Conte and playing in a top team, in a year Iturbe will be worth at least twice. Another player that Juventus is Alvaro Morata, Spanish strongly wanted Juve and refused all the proposals that have come from other teams (Monaco in the first place), also proposed more advantageous than those eagle. Morata, however, is a tough guy, he wanted to Juve and had. The Real Falcao fired and eventually indulged Morata did not want to make the reservation of luxury at the end of the agreement it was found, 18 million to Real and the clause with the possibility for Spaniards to buy back the player at a figure more than 30 million (we are talking 33-35 million). To me this seems an fantastic. Do not be fooled by the speech of the clause. It is said that the real face and assert, however, Juve would gain a great gain. Another player who seems in fact Evra is black and white, en route with Manchester United, the French would be a reinforcement of experience really important especially in key Champions. Evra only to miss the official announcement. Finally Juve will have a left-back role, a true champion (it was the time of Zambrotta on the wing was missing a left-handed quarterback like that), I mean Juve after sowing in silence is reaping the rewards. However, it remains to plug a leak not least, we need at least a strong central defender. Barzagli will be out 3 months and this makes it absolutely necessary to buy one or two central defenders. Juve need a world-class defender because the big teams are based by the defense, Juve has built its success on defense and should continue to do so. Nastasic has been linked to Juventus, it would be a big blow but Rome was in the lead and can exploit the fact that the City would like Benatar, Roma have fired more than 30 million Nastasic, you are dealing with but it will not be easy to close. Remain in the background Astori, Balanta (still immature in my opinion). I think Juve should first fix the defense. The market recovers from there. There will be no surprises and news in the coming days. Expect a week full of events, talks and announcements, the rally is approaching and the Count wants to work with someone already in the new shop. One thing must be said and emphasized: in a tough market for Italian teams and asphyxiated because with little money Juve is distinguishing, is putting in fresh forces and rejuvenating the team. Now serving other 2/3 shots and you can begin to enjoy the styling and impressive 4-3-3 formation. But I am afraid that there may be a transfer illustrious (Pogba? Vidal?) Because the roda Juve needs at least 3 other players, and I do not think that there is some money in cash for new shots, so you have to force someone to surrender. The eligible candidates are the usual midfield but also Isla (estimated 7-8 million). Now, however, Juve is enjoying his triple shot, waiting for the next steps, of course Tevez a trident-Morata (Llorente) - Iturbe is so much stuff. It is the unknown Giovinco (will?) And it remains to be seen whether Juventus will be able to trim down requests for Pogba and Vidal. Keep your samples is the first brick to triumph again in Italy and to make way in the Champions League. If Juve could not assign or Pogba Vidal then you can have fun .. Until the end ...
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@ Salmano; As the article mentions, we definitely need another CB. Even without considering the injured Barzagli, we still lack quality in defence line.
Last year's CL and EL proved that our defence is not 100% dependable in big games. Though apart from Real Madrid, the other opponents were not considered much strong (Gala, Benfica...). we usually struggle against fast attacking teams.
Bonbon is our defence's Achilles' heel. he usually fails under high pressure and makes silly mistakes.
In overall, our defence is strong but SLOW (not surprising, considering the age of our defenders: Chiellini 29, Barzagli 33, bonbon 27, lich 30). It is note noticeable in Serie A where practically no team attacks us but in CL or even EL it is much different.
Last year's CL and EL proved that our defence is not 100% dependable in big games. Though apart from Real Madrid, the other opponents were not considered much strong (Gala, Benfica...). we usually struggle against fast attacking teams.
Bonbon is our defence's Achilles' heel. he usually fails under high pressure and makes silly mistakes.
In overall, our defence is strong but SLOW (not surprising, considering the age of our defenders: Chiellini 29, Barzagli 33, bonbon 27, lich 30). It is note noticeable in Serie A where practically no team attacks us but in CL or even EL it is much different.
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Romulo and Iturbe for Juve?
Romulo could be included as part of Juventus negotiations to sign Juan Manuel Iturbe from Hellas Verona.
The Bianconeri have made no secret of their interest in Iturbe, battling for his contract along with Milan, Atletico Madrid and Roma.
The price-tag for forward Iturbe is thought to be in the region of €30m (£24m), while Romulo is valued at €7m (£5.6m).
According to Tuttosport, Juve directors met with Verona today and proposed taking both players in a package deal.
Romulo’s versatility is key for Antonio Conte, as he can play right-back, on the right wing or in a more central midfield role.
It’s possible Stephan Lichtsteiner could influence the deal, as he has still not agreed a contract renewal and is on his way out of Juventus.
If the Bianconeri find a suitable replacement in Romulo, the Swiss international would be allowed to leave.
Romulo could be included as part of Juventus negotiations to sign Juan Manuel Iturbe from Hellas Verona.
The Bianconeri have made no secret of their interest in Iturbe, battling for his contract along with Milan, Atletico Madrid and Roma.
The price-tag for forward Iturbe is thought to be in the region of €30m (£24m), while Romulo is valued at €7m (£5.6m).
According to Tuttosport, Juve directors met with Verona today and proposed taking both players in a package deal.
Romulo’s versatility is key for Antonio Conte, as he can play right-back, on the right wing or in a more central midfield role.
It’s possible Stephan Lichtsteiner could influence the deal, as he has still not agreed a contract renewal and is on his way out of Juventus.
If the Bianconeri find a suitable replacement in Romulo, the Swiss international would be allowed to leave.
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Man Utd meet Vidal agent?
The Daily Mail claims Juventus midfielder Arturo Vidal’s agent met with Manchester United on Friday.
Real Madrid and Bayern Munich are also interested in the Chile international, but Manchester United have been consistently linked with the player.
According to the Daily Mail, Manchester United directors met with Fernando Felicevich on Friday, right after his other client Alexis Sanchez signed for Arsenal.
The Red Devils are believed to have offered £35m (€44m) for Vidal, who joined Juve from Bayer Leverkusen in 2011.
The 27-year-old only penned a contract extension in December, so is tied to the Turin giants until June 2017.
The Daily Mail claims Juventus midfielder Arturo Vidal’s agent met with Manchester United on Friday.
Real Madrid and Bayern Munich are also interested in the Chile international, but Manchester United have been consistently linked with the player.
According to the Daily Mail, Manchester United directors met with Fernando Felicevich on Friday, right after his other client Alexis Sanchez signed for Arsenal.
The Red Devils are believed to have offered £35m (€44m) for Vidal, who joined Juve from Bayer Leverkusen in 2011.
The 27-year-old only penned a contract extension in December, so is tied to the Turin giants until June 2017.
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44m Euros is tooo little.... Vidal is as worth as pogba, or even is worth higher...
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MMM wrote:@ Salmano; As the article mentions, we definitely need another CB. Even without considering the injured Barzagli, we still lack quality in defence line.
Last year's CL and EL proved that our defence is not 100% dependable in big games. Though apart from Real Madrid, the other opponents were not considered much strong (Gala, Benfica...). we usually struggle against fast attacking teams.
Bonbon is our defence's Achilles' heel. he usually fails under high pressure and makes silly mistakes.
In overall, our defence is strong but SLOW (not surprising, considering the age of our defenders: Chiellini 29, Barzagli 33, bonbon 27, lich 30). It is note noticeable in Serie A where practically no team attacks us but in CL or even EL it is much different.
Well, as I said before, its not the defense that we need to change in Europe, its the way we put the defence... Instead of playing with a 3 man defense and say that we need to buy new player, it would be better to change formation instead... Cuz I said earlier, we have good cover already, maybe 1 decent CB would do?
Regarding the Romulu/Licht rumors, I really don't want to see Lich leave... He is one of the best in his position out there. Romulu is welcome though...
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if we allow Atl Mehdrid to take Iturbe from right under our noses
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No no, he will come here... At. fans said: Forget Iturbe, go to Juve
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Reports from Tuttosport say that Conte wants to try out Marrone as a CB before thinking about selling him...
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After finally recovered from Sassuolo, Altutusport newspaper reported that Luca Maroni will stay at Juventus at least until August, and then will be considered in order to sell it.
Antonio Conte, who coached the player by the spell in the first two, decided to rely on a defender Maroni alternative, especially for Bonucci, and wants to try it in the summer camp before deciding the fate of the player.
But according to the newspaper issued from Turin, the sell order Maroni is not ruled out. The player is not short of clubs wishing to be annexed. And on top of Palermo coach who wants to promote Iaykina midfielder maroni.
Antonio Conte, who coached the player by the spell in the first two, decided to rely on a defender Maroni alternative, especially for Bonucci, and wants to try it in the summer camp before deciding the fate of the player.
But according to the newspaper issued from Turin, the sell order Maroni is not ruled out. The player is not short of clubs wishing to be annexed. And on top of Palermo coach who wants to promote Iaykina midfielder maroni.
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Morata: visits on Tuesdays. Evra gets to the end of July
The Spaniard has cost 18 million (in the next two years the Real can shoot for 35), while the Juve will receive a salary of 2.2 million net for 4 yearsMorata: visits on Tuesdays. Evra gets to the end of July
TURIN - Summary: July 12, that is 48 hours prior to the Avio of the new season, Juventus took Kingsley Coman, Patrice Evra, for which the official announcement is expected in hours (the outside, now on vacation in the United States, will arrive in Turin at the end of July), and Alvaro Morata will be in Vinovo between Monday and Tuesday (the day on which will support medical visits). Juan Iturbe, according to news reports confirmed again yesterday, should be next. Evra went to the United EUR 200 thousand more than 1.7 million bonus, while full-back has signed a two-year to 3.5 million per year. Morata has cost 18 million (in the next two years the Real can shoot for 35), while the Juve will receive a salary of 2.2 million net for 4 years. Remember that if the next two seasons Marotta received an offer of 35 million Euros from another club, could not possibly yield the Spanish striker. The bond between Juventus and Real expires in January 2017, when the Bianconeri will operate in total freedom card for the tip.[/b]
The Spaniard has cost 18 million (in the next two years the Real can shoot for 35), while the Juve will receive a salary of 2.2 million net for 4 yearsMorata: visits on Tuesdays. Evra gets to the end of July
TURIN - Summary: July 12, that is 48 hours prior to the Avio of the new season, Juventus took Kingsley Coman, Patrice Evra, for which the official announcement is expected in hours (the outside, now on vacation in the United States, will arrive in Turin at the end of July), and Alvaro Morata will be in Vinovo between Monday and Tuesday (the day on which will support medical visits). Juan Iturbe, according to news reports confirmed again yesterday, should be next. Evra went to the United EUR 200 thousand more than 1.7 million bonus, while full-back has signed a two-year to 3.5 million per year. Morata has cost 18 million (in the next two years the Real can shoot for 35), while the Juve will receive a salary of 2.2 million net for 4 years. Remember that if the next two seasons Marotta received an offer of 35 million Euros from another club, could not possibly yield the Spanish striker. The bond between Juventus and Real expires in January 2017, when the Bianconeri will operate in total freedom card for the tip.[/b]
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Di marzio: Juve sign evra
LB problem solved guys lol .... Who was begging that we sign a left back?
LB problem solved guys lol .... Who was begging that we sign a left back?
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Patrice Evra has signed the contract to join Juventus. A few minutes ago the French winger completed his transfer to the bianconeri after signing the contract via email from Los Angeles, where he is currently on vacation.
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Obviously with Evra being our only "proper" left back he was guaranteed to be starting. The question is who will be Evra's back up ? Will it be Caceres, De Ceglie or will we sign another left back for the future ? Personally I'd rather have Caceres than De Ceglie.
Evra is a quick fix, by next season I expect us to sign a left back with more than 2-3 years of football in front of him.
Evra is a quick fix, by next season I expect us to sign a left back with more than 2-3 years of football in front of him.
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Evra is horrible. Ok going forward but hasnt the energy to get back. The amount of time he jogs back with the play exploiting his side was ridiculous. Jumped the shark a few seasons ago.
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No worries, he'll have Vidal to cover for him
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Chiellini will be left back back up
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I'm not very happy with Evra as our LB,he is past his prime but can be useful.But we had a good chance to sign another Ashley Cole for free and our rivals took him,Cole is far more useful LB than Evra.
If we go for that 18 mln deal with RM would be more a mistake than profitable.
We spend 18 mln,YES 18 ! on a RM young player,who has a lot of talent and may develop under Conte.
What do we win?
Well we get a talented player to play for two years with us,we grow him to one of the best strikers and send him back to win 35-18=17 mln
If he fails we lose 18 mln.
To risky and unecesary move in my opinion.
If we go for that 18 mln deal with RM would be more a mistake than profitable.
We spend 18 mln,YES 18 ! on a RM young player,who has a lot of talent and may develop under Conte.
What do we win?
Well we get a talented player to play for two years with us,we grow him to one of the best strikers and send him back to win 35-18=17 mln
If he fails we lose 18 mln.
To risky and unecesary move in my opinion.
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Patience, Albanian bro.
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^ I am patient but not very optimistic,we all know that Juve doesn't have much money in their hands to outbid other clubs,ex.we lost Sanchez to Arsenal.
We are trying to make few milions from sales,Immobile,Vuci and Quag is expected to leave for 3-4 mln.
I hope Marrotta spends those money well without having to sell Vidal,who if goes for less than 50 mln would be a shame.
We are trying to make few milions from sales,Immobile,Vuci and Quag is expected to leave for 3-4 mln.
I hope Marrotta spends those money well without having to sell Vidal,who if goes for less than 50 mln would be a shame.
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Who told you that our key players will leave? That wont happen... We are about tto spend 45m on iturbe and morata
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Reports say that we will keep Vidal and we want Pereyera ( spelling?) from Udinese?
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Report: Manchester United refuse to meet Juventus' asking price for Arturo Vidal
Manchester United's pursuit of Juventus midfielder Arturo Vidal is reportedly in danger of coming to an end due to disagreements over the fee.
Yesterday, reports had emerged claiming that the Chile international's move to Old Trafford was "imminent", but it is now believed that the two clubs are not close to agreeing a deal.
According to The Mirror, United are refusing to meet the Italian outfit's asking price of £34m for the midfielder as they believe that Juve are using them to create a bidding war.
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What a relief! however there are still many reports even from Chile TV that the deal is close to be done.
even some say we will bid £20m for pauliniho to replace Vidal but that doesn't make any sense.
why should a club sell its best player for £32m and buy another player to replace him for £20m+ only to get at most £12m?
I believe if we sell Vidal it will be for balancing our book after buying Morata and Iturbe and if that happens his replacement wont be an expensive player. Guaring maybe for 10m cash plus a player in exchange.
Manchester United's pursuit of Juventus midfielder Arturo Vidal is reportedly in danger of coming to an end due to disagreements over the fee.
Yesterday, reports had emerged claiming that the Chile international's move to Old Trafford was "imminent", but it is now believed that the two clubs are not close to agreeing a deal.
According to The Mirror, United are refusing to meet the Italian outfit's asking price of £34m for the midfielder as they believe that Juve are using them to create a bidding war.
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What a relief! however there are still many reports even from Chile TV that the deal is close to be done.
even some say we will bid £20m for pauliniho to replace Vidal but that doesn't make any sense.
why should a club sell its best player for £32m and buy another player to replace him for £20m+ only to get at most £12m?
I believe if we sell Vidal it will be for balancing our book after buying Morata and Iturbe and if that happens his replacement wont be an expensive player. Guaring maybe for 10m cash plus a player in exchange.
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The Vidal reports are pure BS made by the English Media
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Vidal: Happy at Juventus
http://football-italia.net/52111/vidal-happy-juventus
EOF ! ( end of story )
http://football-italia.net/52111/vidal-happy-juventus
EOF ! ( end of story )
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