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Post by Lord Spencer Wed 13 Jul - 4:05:57

We all know that Udi is a selling club. They buy cheap talent, improve, and sell for a profit. I thought the trend will change with their introduction into the CL. But the owners went the secure way and continued with their selling.

I expect them to bring in a number of rough talent players. But can these players make a difference when you sell the rocks of last season. Really, do Udi in any way wish to compete for or win the Scudetto, or reach anywhere in the CL. Or do they look at it in a purly econimical matter.

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Post by Ganso Wed 13 Jul - 4:07:29

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Post by Mr Nick09 Wed 13 Jul - 4:07:44

the one team i want in my CL group now Smile, easy 6 pts
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Post by zizzle Wed 13 Jul - 4:10:01

Ganso wrote:Udinese; why art thou being stupid? Mexico-drug-money2

well put

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Post by Swanhends Wed 13 Jul - 4:10:42

Since 1896 Udinese has won a Serie C title and an Intertoto Cup

Thats it. They are not a club that challenges for trophies.

And for the record, selling Sanchez is fantastic business.
They're about to make 40 million Euros on a player who is currently a one season wonder in Serie A who struggled badly to adapt in his early years...
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Post by fatman123 Wed 13 Jul - 4:13:58

sell zapata, sell sanchez and play 6 champions league games and if there lucky get into the round of 32 of the europa league

for club like udinese that is mega mega mega $$



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Post by zizzle Wed 13 Jul - 4:15:54

we can forget about getting that forth CL spot back
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Post by Ganso Wed 13 Jul - 4:16:30

Money now=good future,cant blame them tbh
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Post by Ganso Wed 13 Jul - 4:17:40

zizzle wrote:we can forget about getting that forth CL spot back
just a matter of time.cant see many German teams going too far in CL.
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Post by VanDeezNuts Wed 13 Jul - 4:18:23

if they really wanted to make money they would hold on to a few players for 1 year and try to win a trophy

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Post by zizzle Wed 13 Jul - 4:22:53

Ganso wrote:
zizzle wrote:we can forget about getting that forth CL spot back
just a matter of time.cant see many German teams going too far in CL.


but they do amazingly well in Europa League while the italians dont even bother to try
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Post by BiasedMilanFan3 Wed 13 Jul - 4:37:01

They are losing good players but I can see them signing some good young talent.
They've got some good South American scouts.

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Post by Guest Wed 13 Jul - 4:56:26

They already got a replacement for Sanchez... :coffee:

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Post by Lord Spencer Wed 13 Jul - 6:18:38

So we are not looking at club looking to compete. I agree that Sanchez is great buisness, and is not that great of a sporting suicide, but selling the entire backbone is.

Thanks bhends for that info, we can see that Udi are nit really intrested in victory or trophys. Some can see this as an investment to the future, but you invest to the future by building a strong fanbase, or by grabbing the attention of bored rich men. I see this as a massive FU to their fans.

Andit sucks that the rest of Italy will have to suffer for their "buisness".
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Post by punkfusion1992 Wed 13 Jul - 6:26:36

cnt forget the fact Udinese are getting a ton of players back from Granada many of whom have done very well to get promoted
im pretty sure there is a replacement in there somewhere
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Post by zizzle Wed 13 Jul - 6:33:04

punkfusion1992 wrote:cnt forget the fact Udinese are getting a ton of players back from Granada many of whom have done very well to get promoted
im pretty sure there is a replacement in there somewhere

you cant really replace proven players like sanchez, inler, and zapata with promosing yougsters, especially if you're playing in the champions league

the way i see it they're just signing a new generation of future cash flows. thats how Udinese has always been and thats what they'll always do

edit: check this article for more info on Udinese's business model

http://www.goal.com/en-gb/news/3276/serie-a/2011/01/25/2322242/the-story-behind-the-udinese-model-and-why-it-puts-inter-ac

they're great and bringing youngsters up, but they do it for the wrong reasons
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Post by Art Morte Wed 13 Jul - 7:36:39

Lord Spencer wrote:We all know that Udi is a selling club. They buy cheap talent, improve, and sell for a profit. I thought the trend will change with their introduction into the CL. But the owners went the secure way and continued with their selling.

I expect them to bring in a number of rough talent players. But can these players make a difference when you sell the rocks of last season. Really, do Udi in any way wish to compete for or win the Scudetto, or reach anywhere in the CL. Or do they look at it in a purly econimical matter.

Discuss

Healthy economics = secure future

When smaller teams get greedy and put competitiveness on the field too far ahead of healthy finances, you greatly increase the risk of coming crashing down. Portsmouth, for example.

I feel Udinese are doing the right thing by continuing their selling policy.
Yes, it might be boring and disappointing on the short-term, but really pays off in the long-term.
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Post by Patrick Bateman Wed 13 Jul - 7:44:54

I hate to say it,but it would have been better if Lazio had qualified for the champions league instead of Udinese...
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Post by Milano_Hustler Wed 13 Jul - 7:47:34

Idiots. Need to get that 4th CL spot back from ze germans.

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Post by Lord Spencer Wed 13 Jul - 8:06:05

Art Morte wrote:
Lord Spencer wrote:We all know that Udi is a selling club. They buy cheap talent, improve, and sell for a profit. I thought the trend will change with their introduction into the CL. But the owners went the secure way and continued with their selling.

I expect them to bring in a number of rough talent players. But can these players make a difference when you sell the rocks of last season. Really, do Udi in any way wish to compete for or win the Scudetto, or reach anywhere in the CL. Or do they look at it in a purly econimical matter.

Discuss

Healthy economics = secure future

When smaller teams get greedy and put competitiveness on the field too far ahead of healthy finances, you greatly increase the risk of coming crashing down. Portsmouth, for example.

I feel Udinese are doing the right thing by continuing their selling policy.
Yes, it might be boring and disappointing on the short-term, but really pays off in the long-term.

What you are saying is true, which is why I am not criticizing the Sanchez transfer, which will bring heaps of cash. However, the other transfers are hardly mouth watering. Yes, they need financial stability, but they also need to prove their competetivness to their fans and investors.

To summerize, Sanchez\s deal is sound in both an economical and sporting view. However, Zapata and whomever they are selling for little profit is only sensible in an economical view, and bad in the sporting side.

You do not invest in the future by selling your present. You also need reputation to attract players. Not everyone can buy rep ala City.
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Post by theaguia Wed 13 Jul - 8:37:48

but they are smart as well they only sell when they have replacement, i mean you should give them a chance and see how they play this first few months
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Post by uzonero Wed 13 Jul - 8:40:16

The Fonz wrote:I hate to say it,but it would have been better if Lazio had qualified for the champions league instead of Udinese...
same feelings here

at this rate, i don't see udinese making the champions league group stages
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Post by Art Morte Wed 13 Jul - 9:02:50

Lord Spencer wrote:
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Lord Spencer wrote:We all know that Udi is a selling club. They buy cheap talent, improve, and sell for a profit. I thought the trend will change with their introduction into the CL. But the owners went the secure way and continued with their selling.

I expect them to bring in a number of rough talent players. But can these players make a difference when you sell the rocks of last season. Really, do Udi in any way wish to compete for or win the Scudetto, or reach anywhere in the CL. Or do they look at it in a purly econimical matter.

Discuss

Healthy economics = secure future

When smaller teams get greedy and put competitiveness on the field too far ahead of healthy finances, you greatly increase the risk of coming crashing down. Portsmouth, for example.

I feel Udinese are doing the right thing by continuing their selling policy.
Yes, it might be boring and disappointing on the short-term, but really pays off in the long-term.

What you are saying is true, which is why I am not criticizing the Sanchez transfer, which will bring heaps of cash. However, the other transfers are hardly mouth watering. Yes, they need financial stability, but they also need to prove their competetivness to their fans and investors.

To summerize, Sanchez\s deal is sound in both an economical and sporting view. However, Zapata and whomever they are selling for little profit is only sensible in an economical view, and bad in the sporting side.

You do not invest in the future by selling your present. You also need reputation to attract players. Not everyone can buy rep ala City.

Well yeah, you should have a balance and not just sell every core player you can get decent money out of.
But since I don't really know Udinese's squad I can't really estimate myself when they're selling too many players - I hope they aren't. I guess next season will show.
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Post by awalezelin Wed 13 Jul - 9:13:51

at least, udinese should keep 1 core player

the most influential one

so they can fight for next season trophy

at least, italian cup
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Post by uzonero Wed 13 Jul - 9:20:59

awalezelin wrote:at least, udinese should keep 1 core player

the most influential one

so they can fight for next season trophy

at least, italian cup
di natale isn't leaving any time soon but in the absence of sanchez and the other core players, there'd be too much weight on his shoulders
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