Paris Saint-Germain 3 - 1 Chelsea

El Chelsea Fuerte wrote:PSG players want Chelsea players:

`"Hazard is the player I'd like to see at PSG. He would do a lot of good to Paris and the league. He's one of the best players against whom I've played."

   -Yohan Cabaye.

   "Oscar is a very good player. A rare talent in today's football, given his qualities. I would be very happy if he came here to PSG."

   -Lucas Moura.

Bring them on

Blue Barrett wrote:

Dante wrote:

Blue Barrett wrote:
How do you get "plagued from too many big games"?

what i meant and probably i didn't use the right words , is that Chelsea should be more fatigued from all these big games they have already endured through the season than PSG. "Plagued by" , both in a good and worrying sense. Good because they already know their strengths , they have confidence and belief in their game after all these big games . But all that experience comes with a cost , especially in a league such as EPL , at the cost of fatigue. PSG has had some important games as well , but not against such quality opponents and nowhere near that many. PSG has good depth too; they will be at their absolute best , given they stay away from injuries and that's never something encouraging to expect. In my opinion , they are much more fresh as a team than Chelsea , given the French league compared to the EPL is a lot less painfull to endure . Chelsea has great potential as a team and tons of talent available , so they can look PSG in the eyes alright. But will they be able to be in form in order to face such a dangerous opponent by then? It's something many tend to overlook untill they see it happening.

All big games leave teams all the more fatigued to continue their season ; and whilst i don't expect that particular aspect to show immediately between Chelsea-PSG , there's a lot of games to be played untill the last match . Mourinho is a coach who knows exactly what he's doing , so perhaps he takes special care it won't hinder Chelsea when the games come. But when it comes to stay in the run for winning the EPL and also competiting deep into the CL , fatigue is a major factor that can never be ignored. The exact same i cannot say of PSG , because let's face it they won their league and that without having to endure the same physical pains as the EPL has to offer in a season.

I think it will be a very even match and imo , Mourinho will have to use some more rotation and rest key players for these 2 games .

What is this?

The game against Man City in February was no more grueling than the game against Villa the other day. Its the premier league. We're used to it. We've hardly had injuries this season(only to Luiz - who's not a regular 1st teamer, Eto'o - last week against Arsenal, and Torres - was out for 1 week and half or so). We've had JT injured for 2 games but that was early this year. He's been fine since. We're not an injury plagued squad and no one has shown signs of fatigue. I'm not sure what you're saying is going to be a factor at all.

Adit wrote:

Mr Nick09 wrote:But Van der wiel has improved, that's a fact. but do you watch enough of PSG to say that he hasnt? he is not world class, but he is not a liability to his team like people want to make it sound. If Verratti and Cavani dont support him, he wont be able to deal with Hazard alone, like about no fullback in footy.

Yes , i do watch PSG on TV occasionally and i find no improvement about Van Der Wiel defensively. Besides what are the attackers attacking Van Der wiel in Ligue 1? :lol:all the teams have shet attacks..most teams plays shet football..When he faced truly elite players in Euros we all saw what happened. Hazard is no way unstoppable, more than enough defenders have done it in PL....but Van Der Wiel will show his one on one weakness..anything less than a rape is a success for Van Der Wiel.

Killer wrote:[

depends, if Lucas plays,  chelsea will have the same problems of the PSG, Lucas is even better than Hazard in defense. So, Hazard will first have to pass on Lucas to get to VDW.

I hope for PSG and for the Game that Lucas will play.

Lavezzi is overrated player, is not a great dribbler and is not good in defense

Robespierre wrote:

Killer wrote:[

depends, if Lucas plays,  chelsea will have the same problems of the PSG, Lucas is even better than Hazard in defense. So, Hazard will first have to pass on Lucas to get to VDW.

I hope for PSG and for the Game that Lucas will play.

Lavezzi is overrated player, is not a great dribbler and is not good in defense

and his finishing is shit
yes , always said. Finally someone rates Lavezzi as I do it

Killer wrote:

Robespierre wrote:

Killer wrote:[

depends, if Lucas plays,  chelsea will have the same problems of the PSG, Lucas is even better than Hazard in defense. So, Hazard will first have to pass on Lucas to get to VDW.

I hope for PSG and for the Game that Lucas will play.

Lavezzi is overrated player, is not a great dribbler and is not good in defense

and his finishing is shit
yes , always said. Finally someone rates Lavezzi as I do it

is not the finishing of Lavezzi the problem, even Di maria and Willan are not great finisher but are good in other aspect of the game, this Lavezzi is good only to run.

Lavezzi in Naples was a better player than this lavezzi.

Killer wrote:

Robespierre wrote:

Killer wrote:[

depends, if Lucas plays,  chelsea will have the same problems of the PSG, Lucas is even better than Hazard in defense. So, Hazard will first have to pass on Lucas to get to VDW.

I hope for PSG and for the Game that Lucas will play.

Lavezzi is overrated player, is not a great dribbler and is not good in defense

and his finishing is shit
yes , always said. Finally someone rates Lavezzi as I do it

is not the finishing of Lavezzi the problem, even Di maria and Willan are not great finisher but are good in other aspect of the game, this Lavezzi is good only to run.

Lavezzi in Naples was a better player than this lavezzi.

Gil wrote:Azpi will destroy Lucas mate. Doubt he'll play anyway, Cavani RW and Lavezzi LW IMO.

Dante wrote:

Blue Barrett wrote:

Dante wrote:

what i meant and probably i didn't use the right words , is that Chelsea should be more fatigued from all these big games they have already endured through the season than PSG. "Plagued by" , both in a good and worrying sense. Good because they already know their strengths , they have confidence and belief in their game after all these big games . But all that experience comes with a cost , especially in a league such as EPL , at the cost of fatigue. PSG has had some important games as well , but not against such quality opponents and nowhere near that many. PSG has good depth too; they will be at their absolute best , given they stay away from injuries and that's never something encouraging to expect. In my opinion , they are much more fresh as a team than Chelsea , given the French league compared to the EPL is a lot less painfull to endure . Chelsea has great potential as a team and tons of talent available , so they can look PSG in the eyes alright. But will they be able to be in form in order to face such a dangerous opponent by then? It's something many tend to overlook untill they see it happening.

All big games leave teams all the more fatigued to continue their season ; and whilst i don't expect that particular aspect to show immediately between Chelsea-PSG , there's a lot of games to be played untill the last match . Mourinho is a coach who knows exactly what he's doing , so perhaps he takes special care it won't hinder Chelsea when the games come. But when it comes to stay in the run for winning the EPL and also competiting deep into the CL , fatigue is a major factor that can never be ignored. The exact same i cannot say of PSG , because let's face it they won their league and that without having to endure the same physical pains as the EPL has to offer in a season.

I think it will be a very even match and imo , Mourinho will have to use some more rotation and rest key players for these 2 games .

What is this?

The game against Man City in February was no more grueling than the game against Villa the other day. Its the premier league. We're used to it. We've hardly had injuries this season(only to Luiz - who's not a regular 1st teamer, Eto'o - last week against Arsenal, and Torres - was out for 1 week and half or so). We've had JT injured for 2 games but that was early this year. He's been fine since. We're not an injury plagued squad and no one has shown signs of fatigue. I'm not sure what you're saying is going to be a factor at all.

I am not sure what's so funny , but fine , since you seem so certain it won't be a factor in any way .. I guess we will have to see if fatigue will play it's part for the qualification , won't we . Something last , i never talked about Chelsea being an injury plagued team , just having already played so many big games it may take it's toll on fitness by then. Not sure what you're on about with injuries .Probably didn't even read my post fully. You obviously assumed that.  

I also laughed at playing City and Villa is as grueling .. it somehow reminded me of that joke about non British teams playing against Stoke on a cold , raining Wednesday night in what's-their-stadium..

EPL is a tough league , probably the toughest of all to endure , of course. But not THIS tough

Blue Barrett wrote:

I read every single word of your post the first time mate, and its still the same thing. Only someone who doesn't watch the premier league would be of this opinion

You would have had a better argument if you said Chelsea had played more games in total this season than PSG and so fatigue might be a factor(though is a faulty logic as well but much less faulty). "Number of big games" has not been a problem for Chelsea or United in the CL for the past decade. We've been in the CL semi final 6 times in the past 10 years and been to the final twice, winning one....all while playing in this league that usually have a lot more "big games" than others.


Like I said, that won't matter. If PSG are going to have an advantage over Chelsea in some area in this tie, this is not it.

S wrote:Hopefully this game produces a spectacle unlike today's games

Looking forward to it very much.