Re: Rooting for country of birth, residency, or heritage?

by jibers Mon Jul 22, 2013 2:34 pm

juveman17 wrote:
El Shaarawy wrote:
juveman17 wrote:

You're Italian?

So many closet Italians on this forum

I only stayed in Italy for 1 year after my birth, don't remember much. My parents are Qatari, its just that i was born there

So go back to Italy and become the next El Sha ffs

by Freeza Mon Jul 22, 2013 2:39 pm

Ins't 'Soccer' just a nickname for 'Association Football'?

Anyways, I'm of Iranian and Danish heritage, but I only support the Danish NT. I can't really support the Iranian team since I haven't lived there for all my life and know the whole culture, like I know the Danish.

by Doc Mon Jul 22, 2013 2:47 pm

I am born and bred in Trinidad and would cheer for Trinidad in every situation.

by Chumlum Mon Jul 22, 2013 2:59 pm

I support two national teams, I guess. First is definitely the US, because I'm American. In any match between the US and any other country, I get my jingoism on. (Like OP I'm a liberal guy otherwise.) But to be honest I don't really follow the USMNT super closely or anything ... if it's not a competition with something at stake, I don't go out of my way to watch matches. The other NT I support, which is a close second, is Germany, because I lived there as a kid for a few years and learned to play football there. It's an awesome time to support them now, but I was cheering for them back in the '90s and early '00s too, when they were of course still good but there wasn't a ton of sexy stuff on the pitch. And the 2002 WC quarterfinal between US and Germany remains one of the most agonizing matches I've ever watched, and the only big Germany victory I've seen that didn't make me happy.

Also there's actually nothing wrong with the word 'soccer.' Aversion to the word just comes from ignorance of where it actually came from. This is one of my pet peeves that stems from a weird inferiority/superiority complex that fans of the game have long had in the US. I think that when Americans speak to other Americans about the sport, it sounds more affected to constantly say 'football' instead of 'soccer.' But I personally say 'football' if I'm speaking to a more international crowd and the context is clear.

Also, people should stop saying that "the whole world" calls the sport football. In Italy, it's calcio.

by B-Mac Mon Jul 22, 2013 3:10 pm

Chumlum wrote:

Also, people should stop saying that "the whole world" calls the sport football. In Italy, it's calcio.

could care less if you call it soccer/football.....but calcio translates to football...so they still call it football.

by Chumlum Mon Jul 22, 2013 3:14 pm

B-Mac MUFC wrote:
Chumlum wrote:

Also, people should stop saying that "the whole world" calls the sport football. In Italy, it's calcio.

could care less if you call it soccer/football.....but calcio translates to football...so they still call it football.

Well I thought it actually was etymologically derived from the word for kicking, which means it's not "foot + ball."

But anyway, by your rationale you could say that soccer (association football) translates to football, so Americans, et al still call it football too.

by Abramovich Mon Jul 22, 2013 3:32 pm

I'm a third generation English, I have Chinese (Hong Kong) blood from my Grandad on my fathers side.

Naturally I support England, even though they suck balls but was born and bred here so one of those "burdens"..... I do have an affection for China somewhat but it only goes as far as me wanting them to win games and not watch them.

by Blue Barrett Mon Jul 22, 2013 3:49 pm

Generally, I support England and the US these days because my parents are from both sides but I only started having a soft spot for USMNT in the past 3-5 years(when they actually started playing decent football).

I would root for Cuba to a certain extent(since mum's partly Cuban) if they actually had a half decent football team Laughing

If it does come down to US vs England in the World Cup I'd root or England 9 times out of 10. The 1 time being if I've been pissed off a lot earlier in the tournament by the English team Laughing

On the players getting things thrown at them, I think the one positive you can draw from that is, Americans are getting more passionate about the sport.

And I'm curious to know if there's anyone whose mum if from one country, dad is from another and grew up in a 3rd country for a while before moving to a 4th. All 4 countries being footballing nations Laughing

Now that's some dilemma Laughing

by Doc Mon Jul 22, 2013 4:00 pm

You may have a slight dilemma there Blue...

by S Mon Jul 22, 2013 4:02 pm

Blue Barrett wrote:but I only started having a soft spot for USMNT in the past 3-5 years(when they actually started playing decent football).

Basically started having a 'soft spot' for them when the US became a relevant football team :coffee:

by Blue Barrett Mon Jul 22, 2013 4:08 pm

Surag wrote:
Blue Barrett wrote:but I only started having a soft spot for USMNT in the past 3-5 years(when they actually started playing decent football).

Basically started having a 'soft spot' for them when the US became a relevant football team

Of course.

Why would I have a soft sport for a team that were shoite in both talent & passion for football?

by S Mon Jul 22, 2013 4:17 pm

Blue Barrett wrote:
Surag wrote:
Blue Barrett wrote:but I only started having a soft spot for USMNT in the past 3-5 years(when they actually started playing decent football).

Basically started having a 'soft spot' for them when the US became a relevant football team

Of course.

Why would I have a soft sport for a team that were shoite in both talent & passion for football?

So do you dedicatedly follow the US NT now and recognize yourself as 'American' or you're just a casual supporter of them ,only rooting for them in International comps with England taking top priority for you ?

Just curious to know btw.

by Blue Barrett Mon Jul 22, 2013 4:26 pm

Surag wrote:
Blue Barrett wrote:
Surag wrote:

Basically started having a 'soft spot' for them when the US became a relevant football team

Of course.

Why would I have a soft sport for a team that were shoite in both talent & passion for football?

So do you dedicatedly follow the US NT now and recognize yourself as 'American' or you're just a casual supporter of them ,only rooting for them in International comps with England taking top priority for you ?

Just curious to know btw.

The latter. Support them a lot in the last WC too.

by LeSwagg James Mon Jul 22, 2013 6:44 pm

Mexicans are treated like shit in the US are they not? Makes sense that they would root against them

For me it's all about the country where you grew up.. I was born in the North of Sudan and moved to Canada when I was like 3 years old, I root for Canada in everything.. It wouldn't make sense to me to not root for the country that made me who I am today.. Although my fave footballing NT is Brazil because of the GOAT that is Ronaldo, who got me into footy in the first place, I would still root for Canada whenever they play eachother..

Maybe if my 'people' were treated like shit in Canada, I would identify more with Sudan and root against Canada whenever they face off..

by ioilersrock448 Mon Jul 22, 2013 8:05 pm

German heritage (with some English - but screw the English) born in Canada, spent time in Germany as a kid, live in Canada. I cheer for Germany and Canada but Canada sucks so I don't think I will ever have a problem deciding between Germany and Canada in a tournament.

by justdoit_ Mon Jul 22, 2013 8:29 pm

Swagg wrote:Mexicans are treated like shit in the US are they not? Makes sense that they would root against them

Lol no, not where I'm from at least.

by RedOranje Mon Jul 22, 2013 9:03 pm

Swagg wrote:Mexicans are treated like shit in the US are they not? Makes sense that they would root against them

That's A) Not actually true and B) Not applicable when talking about El Salvador vs USA.

by LeSwagg James Mon Jul 22, 2013 9:10 pm

RedOranje wrote:
Swagg wrote:Mexicans are treated like shit in the US are they not? Makes sense that they would root against them

That's A) Not actually true and B) Not applicable when talking about El Salvador vs USA.

Lol, I'm not following the Gold Cup.. I assumed it was Mexico since in the last Gold Cup final they were booing the US right?

by FennecFox7 Mon Jul 22, 2013 9:49 pm

B-Mac MUFC wrote:
Chumlum wrote:

Also, people should stop saying that "the whole world" calls the sport football. In Italy, it's calcio.

could care less if you call it soccer/football.....but calcio translates to football...so they still call it football.

Cry me a river.. you think it matters what you call it?

by RedOranje Mon Jul 22, 2013 9:53 pm

Giggity5313 wrote:
B-Mac MUFC wrote:
Chumlum wrote:

Also, people should stop saying that "the whole world" calls the sport football. In Italy, it's calcio.

could care less if you call it soccer/football.....but calcio translates to football...so they still call it football.

Cry me a river.. you think it matters what you call it?

No, I don't think he does (see bold). That is, of course, assuming he meant to say he "couldn't care less..."

by B-Mac Mon Jul 22, 2013 10:05 pm

RedOranje wrote:
Giggity5313 wrote:
B-Mac MUFC wrote:

could care less if you call it soccer/football.....but calcio translates to football...so they still call it football.

Cry me a river.. you think it matters what you call it?
No, I don't think he does (see bold). That is, of course, assuming he meant to say he "couldn't care less..."

ya i think he misunderstood me, i meant i don't care what people call it...so no I will not be crying a river Laughing

by free_cat Tue Jul 23, 2013 8:38 am

I'm Catalan born and raised and can't support my nation so I support whichever nation I like the most. In the confederation I supported brasil but I usually go with Argentina.

by Forza Tue Jul 23, 2013 8:53 am

free_cat wrote:I'm Catalan born and raised and can't support my nation so I support whichever nation I like the most. In the confederation I supported brasil but I usually go with Argentina.

So you won't support Spain, even though there may be Catalan players in the team?

by free_cat Tue Jul 23, 2013 9:22 am

Forza wrote:
free_cat wrote:I'm Catalan born and raised and can't support my nation so I support whichever nation I like the most. In the confederation I supported brasil but I usually go with Argentina.
So you won't support Spain, even though there may be Catalan players in the team?

No, I support whichever team plays vs. Spain.

Spain doesn't let a catalan squad play so I root against them. Catalan players don't represent me when they put a spanish shirt on, the same way a Barça player who was loaned out to another team wouldn't represent me.

by Collblanc Tue Jul 23, 2013 10:07 am

free_cat wrote:I'm Catalan born and raised and can't support my nation so I support whichever nation I like the most. In the confederation I supported brasil but I usually go with Argentina.

by TheRedStag Tue Jul 23, 2013 12:55 pm

Born is USA but lived in Ireland all my life and both my parents are Irish.

I support Irish NT, and am neutral towards USA.

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