The irreparable relationship: Juventus-Inter is now the world's fiercest football riva

"Io non rubo il campionato ed in Serie B non son mai stato."

"I don't steal the championship and have never been in Serie B."

- C'é solo l'Inter (the Inter club anthem)

Forget Barcelona-Real Madrid, Fenerbahce-Galatasaray, Celtic-Rangers and Partizan-Red Star, forget even Boca Juniors-River Plate. World football’s biggest rivalry in 2011 has just been sent hurtling through the stratosphere. FIGC chief investigator Stefano Palazzi’s claim that Inter were guilty of sporting fraud that should have resulted in demotion to Serie B in 2006 means that the club’s relationship with deadly rivals Juventus is about to get a whole lot worse.
Though the sides have had a very long, very bitter history of run-ins, the stakes have been raised to immeasurable proportions in the past five years, and Palazzi’s words simply bring to a head the deep feeling of hatred that has existed since Juve were first implicated in Calciopoli half a decade ago.

Since the whole case was originally blown open by a series of wiretaps set up by Telecom Italia, the Bianconeri have stood their ground in their belief that they had done nothing out of the ordinary and that Inter were among a number of clubs who would have been proven just as guilty as they were. Their cries of foul originally fell on deaf ears as they were demoted to Serie B and forced to start on minus 30 points (later reduced to -17, then -9) for offences that had never previously been punished with penalties of more than a few points.

But finally it seems they are about to be satisfied, with Inter likely to be stripped of the 2006 Scudetto they were awarded retrospectively. Only, how can Juve ever be satisfied? Italian football has changed irreparably in the five years that have followed, and with the Nerazzurri protected by the Statute of Limitations, the loss of the title they never earned in the first place is the full extent to which they can be punished under Italian law.

It is now Inter’s turn to complain of victimisation, with president Massimo Moratti calling Palazzi’s statement an “unacceptable attack” on a club he’ll still claim is innocent of any charge. All this despite the discovery of countless wiretaps implicating him in attempts to influence referee designators, the same charge which resulted in Juve’s demotion, and points penalties for several other sides. There were even Article 6 violations by Inter, AC Milan and Livorno which would have seen the three clubs relegated had they been caught out five years ago, but the FIGC’s ineptitude in dealing with the case first time around has simply created a powderkeg.

So the rivalry that has in recent years been stirred up by claims and counter-claims can never now be resolved. Juventus will be given the moral victory of a token stripping of Inter’s 14th Scudetto, but it can do nothing to replace the last five years and will merely serve as evidence to back up their belief that their demise was almost entirely manufactured by the Nerazzurri.
Four/five league titles, two Coppe Italia, three Supercoppe and, most notably, one Champions League crown and Club World Cup later, Inter will start next season in exactly the same position they would have anyway – with a squad built off the back of their position as the No.1 team in Italy that was assumed in the summer of 2006. For Juve, meanwhile, there is the continued struggle to regain their feet five years after the carpet was ripped from under them. The mass exodus of players, the loss of titles, the humiliation of Serie B, the long, difficult road back… none of these things can be reversed.

So while Inter may well be called out as the real bad guys in one of Italian football’s greatest self-implosions, it is Juve who have paid the ultimate price. And Nerazzurri followers will tell you all the while that their good name has been besmirched by their greatest rivals. They’ll continue to sing “Io non rubo il campionato” and will still be able to boast “in Serie B non son mai stato”, however much Luciano Moggi et al question their right to do so.

All of which means there is no going back. This is not racist chanting at Mario Balotelli or Samuel Eto’o. It is not Felipe Melo sparking a 20-man brawl with a crude foul. It is not flares being thrown between home and away sections. Nor is it even Piero Ceccarini failing to give a penalty against Mark Iuliano for a foul on Ronaldo. This is a whole new level. It is the calculated set-up aimed to destroy another club... but who are really the victims and who are the transgressors?

They will fight them in the boardrooms, they will fight them in the courts. They will fight them on the pitch, on the terraces and in the streets. The Derby d’Italia is about to go global – all thanks to the mistakes of 2006.

Results of the Rivalry:

Inter +1 Scudetto

2006-07 - 1st - A
2007-08 - 1st - A
2008-09 - 1st - A
2009-10 - 1st - A
2010-11 - 1st - A

Juventus -2 Scudetti

2006-07 - 1st - B
2007-08 - 3rd - A
2008-09 - 2nd - A
2009-10 - 7th - A
2010-11 - 7th - A

izzy26 wrote:I honestly believe they should make calciopoli into a movie.

It would be the greatest movie of all time.

JuvenelCuore wrote:
True. A political tyranny, bribery, corruptness, crime, connections, jealously, spite, hate all whirled into one plot. Amazing.

izzy26 wrote:

JuvenelCuore wrote:
True. A political tyranny, bribery, corruptness, crime, connections, jealously, spite, hate all whirled into one plot. Amazing.

Would pay good money to see it.


Has this whole saga taken your hate for Inter to new heights? And do you think other Inter and Juve fans share the same feelings?

This derby is going to escalate this coming season. Must record both matches.

izzy26 wrote:

JuvenelCuore wrote:
True. A political tyranny, bribery, corruptness, crime, connections, jealously, spite, hate all whirled into one plot. Amazing.

Would pay good money to see it.


Has this whole saga taken your hate for Inter to new heights? And do you think other Inter and Juve fans share the same feelings?

This derby is going to escalate this coming season. Must record both matches.

Doc wrote:I would really watch this movie if ever someone ever makes it. But who could pull off a good Moggi?

BarrileteCosmico wrote:Of course you're going to think it's the world's biggest rivalry

JuvenelCuore wrote:Haha well I mean what other rivalry tops this ? Sure I love watching a good El Classico too, but no other rivalry has resulted in court trials and lost league titles.

izzy26 wrote:

JuvenelCuore wrote:Haha well I mean what other rivalry tops this ? Sure I love watching a good El Classico too, but no other rivalry has resulted in court trials and lost league titles.

I'm saying this right now, if there are any reorts of people mysterously 'dissapering', this will be unquestionably the biggest derby in the world.

That's all it needs to be complete.

JuvenelCuore wrote:

izzy26 wrote:

JuvenelCuore wrote:Haha well I mean what other rivalry tops this ? Sure I love watching a good El Classico too, but no other rivalry has resulted in court trials and lost league titles.

I'm saying this right now, if there are any reorts of people mysterously 'dissapering', this will be unquestionably the biggest derby in the world.

That's all it needs to be complete.

Elkann almost committed suicide over the matter ... is that enough ?

...I'm sorry, I shouldn't joke about that.

JuvenelCuore wrote:Elkann almost committed suicide over the matter ... is that enough ?
...I'm sorry, I shouldn't joke about that.

cyberman wrote:Ive got a movie based off of this, i call it Goodfellas 2.

Paulie and Jimmy end up in prison but try their best to make the world think theyre not so bad because Tommy Ds mother is distantly implicated somehow, so try to bring her down.
They weasel their way into propaganda jobs as columnists with national newspapers in a bid to badmouth poor mother D while trying to protote an air of innocence.
They scream that poor mother Ds time is coming, but when she gets off, cry about corruption and how she gets away with it.
They then bitterly announce a vicious rivalry with poor mother D that will never end...but poor mother D doesnt give a shit because shes too busy winning CLs and league titl....sorry knitting, to care about a proven corrupt organisation that are a spent force in italian footba...sorry organised crime.
well, i couldve said italian football since its the same thing anyway

Granted its not as good as the original, but sequals rarely are

cyberman wrote:Ive got a movie based off of this, i call it Goodfellas 2.

Paulie and Jimmy end up in prison but try their best to make the world think theyre not so bad because Tommy Ds mother is distantly implicated somehow, so try to bring her down.
They weasel their way into propaganda jobs as columnists with national newspapers in a bid to badmouth poor mother D while trying to protote an air of innocence.
They scream that poor mother Ds time is coming, but when she gets off, cry about corruption and how she gets away with it.
They then bitterly announce a vicious rivalry with poor mother D that will never end...but poor mother D doesnt give a shit because shes too busy winning CLs and league titl....sorry knitting, to care about a proven corrupt organisation that are a spent force in italian footba...sorry organised crime.
well, i couldve said italian football since its the same thing anyway

Granted its not as good as the original, but sequals rarely are

cyberman wrote:Ive got a movie based off of this, i call it Goodfellas 2.

Paulie and Jimmy end up in prison but try their best to make the world think theyre not so bad because Tommy Ds mother is distantly implicated somehow, so try to bring her down.
They weasel their way into propaganda jobs as columnists with national newspapers in a bid to badmouth poor mother D while trying to protote an air of innocence.
They scream that poor mother Ds time is coming, but when she gets off, cry about corruption and how she gets away with it.
They then bitterly announce a vicious rivalry with poor mother D that will never end...but poor mother D doesnt give a shit because shes too busy winning CLs and league titl....sorry knitting, to care about a proven corrupt organisation that are a spent force in italian footba...sorry organised crime.
well, i couldve said italian football since its the same thing anyway

Granted its not as good as the original, but sequals rarely are