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Post by Gil Tue Apr 09, 2013 6:59 pm

Is he still injured or permanently dropped for Lopez?
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Post by BarcaLearning Tue Apr 09, 2013 7:28 pm

From what I know hes just back from injury, and is ready, but Lopez have been on such good form Iker needs to wait for his chance. Seems like a fair choice by most would agree...

Its surprising to see the club captain in this position, and I guess Mourinho show of his authority plays a part too Razz
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Post by the xcx Tue Apr 09, 2013 7:35 pm

Forget about Iker. Behold the new superstar the Lopez Proud
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Post by VanDeezNuts Tue Apr 09, 2013 9:48 pm

literally just came back from injury- first match back CL semi final deciding match? wouldnt make sense to me.

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Post by Onyx Tue Apr 09, 2013 9:49 pm

He's back from injury and could have started against Levante last weekend.

However I guess it would be unfair for Diego Lopez to be dropped, since he's done well.

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Post by McAgger Wed Apr 10, 2013 5:34 am

You can't really just play someone in the quarters of CL right when they get back from injury. I'm pretty sure he'll get some La Liga games and might even retake the starting position should we make the CL final.
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Post by BarrileteCosmico Wed Apr 10, 2013 6:23 am

Madrid fans stop deluding yourselves. He's a goalkeeper, not an outfield player, the injury will have very little effect on his performance after recovering from it.

Mou has claimed that it would be hard for Lopez to lose the starting place until the end of the season. He's not playing because Mourinho is trying to diminish Iker's influence in the dressing room and because he judges Iker to act like he is unsubbable and thus doesn't train hard in trainings. Mou probably also blames Iker for his girlfriend's confessions to the press about dressing room details. Given that Iker is one of the players that has allegedly made things hardest for Mou throughout his three years there it's hardly surprising they have a rocky relationship. Keep in mind that Mou has done this previously with Adan.
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Post by VanDeezNuts Wed Apr 10, 2013 6:47 am

BarrileteCosmico wrote:Madrid fans stop deluding yourselves. He's a goalkeeper, not an outfield player, the injury will have very little effect on his performance after recovering from it.

Mou has claimed that it would be hard for Lopez to lose the starting place until the end of the season. He's not playing because Mourinho is trying to diminish Iker's influence in the dressing room and because he judges Iker to act like he is unsubbable and thus doesn't train hard in trainings. Mou probably also blames Iker for his girlfriend's confessions to the press about dressing room details. Given that Iker is one of the players that has allegedly made things hardest for Mou throughout his three years there it's hardly surprising they have a rocky relationship. Keep in mind that Mou has done this previously with Adan.

you dont understand the concept of being match fit from a goalkeepers perspective. recovering may be easier for him because he was still able to keep fit (not as if it was a serious leg injury).

but the fact that he hasnt been able to take game-intensity type shots for about 3 months coupled with the point that he has very likely lost a little step of quickess in both reflexes and foot movement it would be idiotic to throw him into a CL semi-final deciding match.

hes only been back in full training for a week, and considering how well lopez has been playing it wouldnt make sense to start iker.

reading your mindless rant after your one key point confirms how little you know about the subject.

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Post by BarrileteCosmico Wed Apr 10, 2013 6:50 am

I'll admit I perhaps exaggerated with him not starting right away - but that doesn't change the fact that Mou will keep him benched for as long as the has the political capital to do so.
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Post by McAgger Wed Apr 10, 2013 7:24 am

Iker hasn't conceded a goal in a major final, let alone have lost one. If we make the CL final he should play imo, however his form must be considered at the time. Which is why I'm hoping we play both Iker and Lopez half&half for the rest of the La Liga season so that Iker can get back to top to match sharpness and Lopez doesn't lose it.
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Post by Pedram Wed Apr 10, 2013 6:51 pm

BarrileteCosmico wrote:Madrid fans stop deluding yourselves. He's a goalkeeper, not an outfield player, the injury will have very little effect on his performance after recovering from it.

Mou has claimed that it would be hard for Lopez to lose the starting place until the end of the season. He's not playing because Mourinho is trying to diminish Iker's influence in the dressing room and because he judges Iker to act like he is unsubbable and thus doesn't train hard in trainings. Mou probably also blames Iker for his girlfriend's confessions to the press about dressing room details. Given that Iker is one of the players that has allegedly made things hardest for Mou throughout his three years there it's hardly surprising they have a rocky relationship. Keep in mind that Mou has done this previously with Adan.

Creating drama out of nothing. :facepalm:
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Post by BarrileteCosmico Tue May 07, 2013 3:58 pm

You guys still think I'm creating drama? Laughing

Mou: "Diego Lopez will be the goalkeeper for as long as I am coach"
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Post by VanDeezNuts Tue May 07, 2013 4:43 pm

still, it would have been stupid on mou's part to start iker in the dortmund matches.

and lopez has been outstanding, why drop him now?

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Post by futbol Tue May 07, 2013 6:35 pm

Barcelona need a new goalkeeper. :coffee:

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Post by Fuchsteufelswild Wed May 08, 2013 3:01 am

Mourinho the first coach with the balls to bench overrated Iker Casillas. Razz
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Post by McAgger Wed May 08, 2013 5:41 am

BarrileteCosmico wrote:You guys still think I'm creating drama? Laughing

Mou: "Diego Lopez will be the goalkeeper for as long as I am coach"

Well that's not going to last much longer
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Post by Mamad Wed May 08, 2013 7:01 am

The funny thing is people are saying if Iker wants his spot back he should fight and compete. That's fair. but how that's possible when Mou comes out and says till I'm here Casillas will not play?

does that sound like a fair competition to you? Laughing

stupid Mourinho. tonight fans will slap him in the face at Bernabeu. once again.
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Post by Kick Wed May 08, 2013 7:09 am

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Post by Donuts Fri May 31, 2013 11:41 pm

Lopez is unavailable for tomorrows game against Osasuna and Mourinho still decided to leave a fit Iker out of team squad, the bench is not good enough for the bench warmer apparently.
How do you guys not get mad at this? :/ I'm a Barca fan but cmon did Iker really do so much bad to deserve this?
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Post by izzy Fri May 31, 2013 11:50 pm

Donuts wrote:Lopez is unavailable for tomorrows game against Osasuna and Mourinho still decided to leave a fit Iker out of team squad, the bench is not good enough for the bench warmer apparently.
How do you guys not get mad at this? :/ I'm a Barca fan but cmon did Iker really do so much bad to deserve this?

GASP!!!
Iker is not playing the last game of the season?
No one cares anymore, Mou's going, Iker will get his starting spot back and that's the end of it.
Mou knows it, Iker knows it, we know it.

Why acted shocked if we know how this plays out?
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Post by Zealous Sat Jun 01, 2013 12:01 am

Iker got what he wanted. No need to feel sorry for him.
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Post by BarrileteCosmico Sat Jun 01, 2013 12:12 am

The thing is that Iker should not start once Mou goes. Lopez has been every bit his superior. Lopez should request a transfer after Mou leaves, there is no way he will be successful at Madrid without him.
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Post by izzy Sat Jun 01, 2013 12:14 am

BarrileteCosmico wrote:The thing is that Iker should not start once Mou goes. Lopez has been every bit his superior. Lopez should request a transfer after Mou leaves, there is no way he will be successful at Madrid without him.

But you know that Iker will get that starting spot back.
I don't know why we as fans should act outraged at this formality and i'm sure as hell, that Lopez knew what was going to happen as soon as Mou was fired.
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Post by Le Samourai Sat Jun 01, 2013 12:20 am

I wouldn't want him starting anyway.

I don't know if anyone remembers the 5 month spell of Alex Manninger at Juventus. Superb, unbelievable, performances, Buffon comes back and he gets dropped Mid-February.

No complaints. Buffon is one of the best in the game, he's a valuable asset, he gets to play.
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Post by Onyx Sat Jun 01, 2013 12:24 am

Lopez has done well, however Casillas is the best GK in the World when he's on form. Hopefully he can regain top form over the Summer.

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