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Post by Mr. Festim Thu Mar 21, 2013 8:10 pm

A Turk ex-referee has created a lot of doubt that the Champions League Draw is fixed

Ahmet Cakar has appeared in a turkish TV telling about how UEFA has manipulated the draw held in Switzerland

According to Cakar, Uefa has made this happen through vibrating balls. When the draw happens all the balls vibrate except the ones that they want to play each other.

This is the video explaining how the Champions Leage draw was fixed:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=VxAy0YtM1Vg

Here is the article on Marca. Explaining in Spanish about how it was fixed:
http://www.marca.com/2013/03/21/futbol/liga_campeones/1363854674.html


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Post by justin77 Thu Mar 21, 2013 8:14 pm

Makes perfect sense! (I have no idea what they're saying, I don't know Turkish).

Anyways, there will always be speculation that the draw is fixed, and right now, I really don't know which way I believe! I guess it'll be just one of those things which is always speculated but never proven, or takes a really long time to proven. I do know however that Uefa/Fifa are corrupt.

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Post by RED Thu Mar 21, 2013 8:15 pm

Was there any doubt to begin with? The most obvious was the rehearsal draw for the last 16- it turned out to be the actual draw. Same exact teams pitted against each other.

It's so obvious it's fixed. And the semis will be fixed too. Uefa want a classico final this year.
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Post by justin77 Thu Mar 21, 2013 8:16 pm

But some will argue that was just a coincidence. I am leaning towards that they are fixed, but I personally am not entirely sure.

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Post by dronte Thu Mar 21, 2013 8:17 pm

No coincidence.. It's so damn obvious, in the next round Barca & Real will evade each other, I would bet all my money on it.

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Post by RED Thu Mar 21, 2013 8:18 pm

justin77 wrote:But some will argue that was just a coincidence. I am leaning towards that they are fixed, but I personally am not entirely sure.

Not a chance that was a coincidence.
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Post by Mr. Festim Thu Mar 21, 2013 8:28 pm

justin77 wrote:Makes perfect sense! (I have no idea what they're saying, I don't know Turkish).

Anyways, there will always be speculation that the draw is fixed, and right now, I really don't know which way I believe! I guess it'll be just one of those things which is always speculated but never proven, or takes a really long time to proven. I do know however that Uefa/Fifa are corrupt.

If you understand Spanish you can see the video that Marca posted about this. Here's the link: http://www.marca.com/2013/03/21/futbol/liga_campeones/1363854674.html
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Post by Mr. Festim Thu Mar 21, 2013 8:41 pm

I just did some checking on youtube about the quarter final draw and I can say its totally true about this.

Look at this video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GB0srSAzw2Q

Put it on full screen and watch it after Real Madrid gets drawn. Between 1:41, 1:42 you can totally see the other balls vibrating after they pick the ball with PSG name on it.
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Post by justin77 Thu Mar 21, 2013 8:52 pm

You guys are probably right. I'm just trying to look for the best in people (or in this case, Uefa) and be optimistic, because if it is fixed, it's terrible for football. If RM and Barca do each other (if they make it through- go Galatasaray!) then I would have to agree that is' fixed.

And Mr. Festim, I can understand Spanish (although not fluently, but more than basic...but I digress) so I'll make sure to watch that video later.

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Post by Niyameddin Thu Mar 21, 2013 10:40 pm

Even if its fixed its better for us. Dont you want to see 2 big semi-finals? UEFA tries to entertain us

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Post by fatman123 Thu Mar 21, 2013 10:45 pm

Chelsea getting drawn into the group of death this season as punishment for not submitting to the fixed draw last season hmm

tbh the whole group of champions was way too big a conisidence imo
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Post by rwo power Thu Mar 21, 2013 10:53 pm

RED wrote:It's so obvious it's fixed. And the semis will be fixed too. Uefa want a classico final this year.
For that, Barca and Real first need to get to the semis and then past them. Didn't work last year either.
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Post by kiranr Thu Mar 21, 2013 10:57 pm


If the draw is fixed, then who can say that each and every game is not fixed? Why would the UEFA restrict themselves to fixing the draws?

If the games are fixed, then what is the point of watching football?
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Post by VanDeezNuts Thu Mar 21, 2013 11:16 pm

would have to be a bit naive to believe an organization with that much money and power isnt corrupt.

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Post by futbol Thu Mar 21, 2013 11:18 pm

If they want to force a Clasico final, why do they draw Madrid - United so early?

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Post by The Sanchez Thu Mar 21, 2013 11:19 pm

Who cares. All I care about is the football. :coffee:
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Post by Niyameddin Thu Mar 21, 2013 11:23 pm

They want clasico final and they put Madrid against M.United. and Barca against Milan

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Post by VanDeezNuts Thu Mar 21, 2013 11:31 pm

Niyameddin wrote:They want clasico final and they put Madrid against M.United. and Barca against Milan

they want the highest ratings so they can make more money, not necessarily el clasico

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Post by The Nature Boy Thu Mar 21, 2013 11:56 pm

vanDEEZ wrote:
Niyameddin wrote:They want clasico final and they put Madrid against M.United. and Barca against Milan

they want the highest ratings so they can make more money, not necessarily el clasico

Thumbs up this
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Post by abetelle Fri Mar 22, 2013 12:35 am

A few years ago, it seemed fixed to give the English teams an easy time. Now it seems it is fixed to give the Spanish teams an easy time. Maybe it is just luck.

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Post by Eivindo Fri Mar 22, 2013 12:37 am

So sad to see this. I just hope the players arent involved too, like REAL actors Very Happy Perhaps this is like wrestling?
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Post by futbol Fri Mar 22, 2013 4:04 am

Chelsea, Milan, Arsenal, Manchester United are all out. Galatasaray, PSG and Malaga have progressed. If FIFA are fixing things to get the big names deep into the competition they are doing it wrong.

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Post by Deja Vu Fri Mar 22, 2013 4:40 am

futbol wrote:Chelsea, Milan, Arsenal, Manchester United are all out. Galatasaray, PSG and Malaga have progressed. If FIFA are fixing things to get the big names deep into the competition they are doing it wrong.

Smack some sense into those conspiracy theories fanatics. Ratings they said. Lol

Illuminati is involved, I'm telling ya.
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Post by dronte Fri Mar 22, 2013 9:49 am

Why are people mixing match fixing with draw fixing? Like it's the same..

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Post by rodri Fri Mar 22, 2013 12:37 pm

Ireland - Estonia "draw" (EURO 2012 quali. play-offs) was fixed, but this Champions League draw? I really doubt..

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