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Post by Abramovich Mon 31 Dec 2012 - 1:39

Le Samourai wrote:
Abramovich wrote:I dont understand how Bale would flop and fail to fill a big void left by CR, sure he doesnt have the goal scoring capacity of CR. But he works harder and defensively isn't shabby which will be great especially against the bigger teams in the CL knockouts, where Marcelos defensive capabilities can be exposed.

On his crossing ability being his best attribute but wasted, he can always swing low and dangerous crosses amongst other types but if he puts them in the right areas despite Higgy or Benz not being beasts in the air, you would expect them to finish either way.

Not to mention he would stretch the game, a lot of people fail to remember he gave Ramos a tough time. The only times I actually saw Ramos stop him was when he fouled him or body checked him.

All of this of course if CR leaves, if he doesn't then no point getting Bale IMO:

Because there are better players desperate for minutes just waiting to fill the position.

There are just better players man, better fits, people more conducive to the way we'd want to play, cheaper people, more marketable people, There's just a whole range of better out there that doesn't scream pointless like this transfer does.

We are buying Bale to what? to get buy his man and send in crosses?.

Marcelo can do that in his sleep.

But he rarely does.

Because the cross is the most remarkably worthless quality a player can have with the players we got. It's the least efficient way we could possibly attack. The last thing we want to do.

So what do we do with that knowledge?

Go out and buy Bale.

I see the logic. It looks like a white light. Take me now.

I get you, but I didn't say Bale would be the best fit or what not or even if he would be the best for Madrid all am saying is he would not flop like everyone is saying.

Why would you want your LB to be doing a LWs job anyways, his first prority is to defend and anything else is a bonus and vice versa with the LW or LM.

Either way if Bale beats his man or who ever beats his man goes down the by line cuts inside and lays off a "jew" or "sweaty" pass to any of your attackers your going to score most times. I don't watch Madrid all the time, but when I do I see alot of those similar type goals, where a player lays it off to Ronaldo after a counter to finish etc.

Bale can finish, pass, cross, dribble and defend he's pretty much a stacked package.

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Post by Ganso Mon 31 Dec 2012 - 1:49

Bale cant defend.Abra pls
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Post by Abramovich Mon 31 Dec 2012 - 1:53

Well not defend as in proper defend, but slightly inferior defensive ability to someone like Valencia or Ramires i suppose. Either way more than what CR offers tbf.
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Post by Ganso Mon 31 Dec 2012 - 2:01

Oh,I thought you were talking about him as a LB.


I can see Bale going but only if CR leaves.Madrid would be stupid enough to buy him and put him on the bench like Modric and Coentrao,but Bale is smart enough to know he wont start.

Its beyond me why City and United aren't after him,specially the latter.Bale is such a United type of winger
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Post by CBarca Mon 31 Dec 2012 - 2:04

Lex wrote:If AVB plays this correctly, he stands to make a lot of dosh out of this deal

That said, Spurs are absolutely dire without Bale Dembele in the team

Fixed for you.

We can survive without Bale in the team, but without Dembele we are awful. Bale pushes us from that top 6 team to top 4 challenging team.

That being said, every player has his price. Give Tottenham 50 million euros and we'll make it a deal. Bale can be replaced, with say a couple additions in the mould of Willian and Moutinho.

Bale is a top 5 player in the league and the best winger. Easy.
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Post by Abramovich Mon 31 Dec 2012 - 2:10

I don't think he will be at Spurs for much longer than another season after this, I have had this horrible feeling he will end up at Man U but lets hope he doesn't because he would be so godly there.
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Post by Onyx Mon 31 Dec 2012 - 2:20

-----------Rooney----RVP/Lewandowski
---Bale------------------------------------Kagawa
----------------Carrick---Cleverely

hmm

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Post by Mr Nick09 Mon 11 Feb 2013 - 14:23

According to EC, we have taken initial contacts with Bale in case of a transfer, believing a deal could be made around 45m
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Post by Onyx Mon 11 Feb 2013 - 14:25

No

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Post by LeVersacci Mon 11 Feb 2013 - 14:29

:facepalm: :facepalm: :facepalm:
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Post by The Franchise Mon 11 Feb 2013 - 14:31

You guys wouldnt want Bale? Why not?

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Post by Mr Nick09 Mon 11 Feb 2013 - 14:35

it's only normal we would initiate things with spurs, no guarantee a deal will happen but he is a top player nowadays, you need to look at him if you want to add strength to your team.

bale has improved so much that it's near impossible not to look at him. i would only say that im a bit coy about him since i was hoping we would move towards more methodical football with better technician. Bale is still a counter specialist...
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Post by Onyx Mon 11 Feb 2013 - 14:36

The Franchise wrote:You guys wouldnt want Bale? Why not?


I'm not a fan of British players. Plus he's only just started developing his game of coming inside etc. We don't need him. Ronaldo's better at LW.

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Post by The Franchise Mon 11 Feb 2013 - 14:38

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The Franchise wrote:You guys wouldnt want Bale? Why not?


I'm not a fan of British players. Plus he's only just started developing his game of coming inside etc. We don't need him. Ronaldo's better at LW.

Well thats quite stupid honestly. What does where they come from mean anything?

Obviously if you were to buy Bale, you would change things...they arent stupid, they realise where Cristiano plays.

The only possible argument is what Nick said about him on the counter attack. All his goals minus 1 or 2 have been away from home, where there is more space to counter.

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Post by Le Samourai Mon 11 Feb 2013 - 14:40

I think there are 3 or 4 players in the squad at the moment who can play on the left better than he can. The only reason to buy him would be if we got Falcao or if Ronaldo moved to CF and even in the latter situation I'd still say Benzema or Di Maria are better options on the left.

I wouldn't mind Isco tho Very Happy


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Post by Onyx Mon 11 Feb 2013 - 14:41

Because I think foreign technical players have more intelligence than British players. They just have that something special about them. There aren't many British players that do.

And counter-attacking is another thing. Mourinho probably won't be around next season, so we shouldn't be getting players who are mostly effective on the counter-attack.

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Post by The Franchise Mon 11 Feb 2013 - 14:43

Yohan Modric wrote:Because I think foreign technical players have more intelligence than British players. They just have that something special about them. There aren't many British players that do.

And counter-attacking is another thing. Mourinho probably won't be around next season, so we shouldn't be getting players who are mostly effective on the counter-attack.

And its still quite stupid. I could name a dozen British players which completely ruin your theory.

Bale is no less a technician than Di Maria, neither are two of the more technical players in the world either. He is probably smarter too.


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Post by daneq Mon 11 Feb 2013 - 14:44

This pony hasn't enough tricks.
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Post by halamadrid2 Mon 11 Feb 2013 - 14:51

45 mill O.O

What Modric wasn't enough? what does he want to do with him.

@dani. how exactly are we going to change thing? ronaldo will not play cf. he has already made his mind clear on that. can't see him play anywhere else. maybe he will be a backup to cacktrao who in turn will be a backup for marcelo Rolling Eyes
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Post by VanDeezNuts Mon 11 Feb 2013 - 14:57

make 0 sense to me. way too expensive, why not just go after neymar or gotze for that price. where would he play? cant think of a lineup that would accomodate him without selling someone.

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Post by Onyx Mon 11 Feb 2013 - 15:05

The Franchise wrote:
Yohan Modric wrote:Because I think foreign technical players have more intelligence than British players. They just have that something special about them. There aren't many British players that do.

And counter-attacking is another thing. Mourinho probably won't be around next season, so we shouldn't be getting players who are mostly effective on the counter-attack.

And its still quite stupid. I could name a dozen British players which completely ruin your theory.

Bale is no less a technician than Di Maria, neither are two of the more technical players in the world either. He is probably smarter too.

There are British players who are technical, however there aren't many. I'd definitely take a foreign player over a British one. Gotze/Neymar/Isco > Bale.

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Post by The Franchise Mon 11 Feb 2013 - 15:10

halamadrid2 wrote:45 mill O.O

What Modric wasn't enough? what does he want to do with him.

@dani. how exactly are we going to change thing? ronaldo will not play cf. he has already made his mind clear on that. can't see him play anywhere else. maybe he will be a backup to cacktrao who in turn will be a backup for marcelo Rolling Eyes

I dont know, im not the coach.

The point is, the people at Madrid arent stupid, they know what position both players play.

You know, Di Maria played on the left too before you got him? Stuff happens, coaches have ideas.


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Post by The Franchise Mon 11 Feb 2013 - 15:12

Yohan Modric wrote:
The Franchise wrote:
Yohan Modric wrote:Because I think foreign technical players have more intelligence than British players. They just have that something special about them. There aren't many British players that do.

And counter-attacking is another thing. Mourinho probably won't be around next season, so we shouldn't be getting players who are mostly effective on the counter-attack.

And its still quite stupid. I could name a dozen British players which completely ruin your theory.

Bale is no less a technician than Di Maria, neither are two of the more technical players in the world either. He is probably smarter too.

There are British players who are technical, however there aren't many. I'd definitely take a foreign player over a British one. Gotze/Neymar/Isco > Bale.

You can say they are better if you like, more technical if you like...but you probably arent getting either of those two, its not a supermarket where you can just take what you like.
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Post by Zealous Mon 11 Feb 2013 - 15:13

I like Bale a lot. Not sure about the 45 million price tag lol

I'll never be against us signing a great player (Bale is really good although really overrated) The more the merrier.
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Post by Great Leader Sprucenuce Mon 11 Feb 2013 - 15:25

http://bet.unibet.com/football/premier-league/2013/02/11/gareth-bale-world-class-you-must-be-joking/44

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Post by Mr Nick09 Mon 11 Feb 2013 - 15:28

to me, it's really simple. If you aint gonna move CR in a "false 9/roam the attack as you want" role, then it's not the best deal to make. might as well spend it on Gotze that is much more efficient playing at different speeds.
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