Re: Has any team depended/been built round one player as much as Barcelona/Messi

by DuringTheWar Mon Sep 17, 2012 7:26 pm

Donuts wrote:Clarify something for me what the hell is an easy goal? And why is it Messi seems to be the only one able to do "easy goals" instead of Sanchez Villa or Pedro.

An easy goal is a goal that is easy to score, dont overthink it. Being put into space inside the 18 yard box from a teammates pass with a clear sight of goal is the most common easy goal messi scores. And he isnt the only one, obviously

by Onyx Mon Sep 17, 2012 7:28 pm

Without Xavi, Iniesta and Messi the team isn't complete imo.

by billionmillion Mon Sep 17, 2012 7:50 pm

This season no. this season i dont like messi's play. he became like CR

But did you forget when 2009/10/11 Messi? I have seen many times Messi playing with Barca B squad. All players resting only Messi playing and winning by 3-4 goals. Did you forget Messi's hat-trick again Atletico with almost B team?
Last season alone Messi made 2 hat-tricks without xavi and iniesta. Messi never stopped scoring even if xavi or iniesta benched. if you have any example you can show. so saying messi depends on them is stupid

As for Spain example. we all know that Spain can not score more than 1 goal. sometimes they score more than 1, but if you check their WC and Euro history you can see they barely scored more than 1 goal per game.

Also why Spain is Barcelona? they have 4 Madrid Players 1 M.City player and 5 Barca players in first squad. Spain = Barcelona+R.Madrid+Others

by gondov Mon Sep 17, 2012 7:58 pm

^ Imo in the last 4 years, the perfect conditions were set up to produce the perfect storm. affraid

Pep - His philosophy favored most of his team, who are all La Masia graduates and its their natural game. They also have massive chemistry having played together for so long.

Xavi - Hitting his peak confidence boosted by winning the EUROs. Born at La Masia delivery room!

Iniesta - nearing his peak, massive chemistry with xavi, messi. Confidence boosted by EUROs. La Masia kid who had Pep's pic on his bedroom wall

Messi - Alien-like quality. Massive chemistry with xaviesta. La Masia philosophy. Not your typical superstar!!

Busquets - the ultimate compliment to xaviesta. La Masia philo. young follows every order.

Alves - Hard working, plays everywhere on the left

Pique - quality CB, thanks to Sir Alex Tutory, young + La Masia philo

Puyol - Battle hardened Catalan warrior captain with hair reminiscent of a Serengeti male lion's mane!, approaching his peak. La Masia.

Eto'o + Henry - Well needed experience and quality on the big stage almost at their peaks

Pedro - young, works hard, La Masia philo, selfless, Pep's servant, has been with him all the way from Spanish 3rd division, follows every order.

Abidal -massively experienced, quality, nice guy!!

Villa - Spanish intern good chemistry with xaviesta already, experienced, quality.

AND MOST OF ALL:

KEITA - the great African Warrior whom Pep said is the only player he would catch a grenade for!!!!!!

by Onyx Mon Sep 17, 2012 8:00 pm

Abidal.

by Donuts Mon Sep 17, 2012 8:34 pm

Yohan Modric wrote:Without Xavi, Iniesta and Messi the team isn't complete imo.

yeah because the team would be without 3 players..
I don't understand why most people view Barcelona like this without Messi Xavi Iniesta sure Barcelona would not be as good as now but there would be a new formation a new strategy and replacements.

by the xcx Mon Sep 17, 2012 10:32 pm

1 season without Messi, and we'll see the true colors of Barcelona.

Make it happen, Football gods!

:bow:

by gondov Mon Sep 17, 2012 10:42 pm

^ Barca will probably buy Neymar so yeh go on football Gods.

Anyway this is still a GOAT team!!

--villa-----cesc-----pedro--
----iniesta------xavi----
---------busquets------
alba---puyi---pique---alves

by the xcx Tue Sep 18, 2012 12:15 am

I dont see that happening tbh...

by gondov Tue Sep 18, 2012 1:32 am

Tweet by lineker on messi at the Getafe game:

(@GaryLineker): “60th goal of this calendar year for Messi. Not even the messy kit can distract him”

:bow:

by jibers Wed Sep 19, 2012 9:52 pm

Bump of Peace :coffee:

by gondov Wed Sep 19, 2012 10:15 pm

Tello today :bow:

1 goal + 1 assist

la masia :bow:

by McAgger Wed Sep 19, 2012 10:18 pm

Messi saves Barca's again, what else is new?? Laughing

by vivabarca38 Wed Sep 19, 2012 10:52 pm

Messiah "Aggerswagger" wrote:Messi saves Barca's again, what else is new??

Like Ronaldo didnt save Madrid yesterday or something Laughing

.

by McAgger Wed Sep 19, 2012 11:15 pm

Benzema saved Madrid :bow:

by harhar11 Wed Sep 19, 2012 11:15 pm

jibers wrote:Bump of Peace

Messi was awful today Laughing

If anyone saved our blushes Messiah, it was Tello :bow:

by Blue Wed Sep 19, 2012 11:25 pm

Messi could play shit all game, he will still get his goals + assists because literately everything in the final ball goes through him.

by gondov Wed Sep 19, 2012 11:36 pm

Messi's job is to score, everything else is a bonus Thumbs up

sometimes its good to be a poacher, he was always surrounded by 6 players its so unreal, i dont know anyone in the world who'd survive with so much attention.

Nevertheless, Tito has got an Anti-BUS weapon;

---villa-----alexis-----pedro---

------------messi-----------

-----xavi-----------busquets--

by LeBéninois Wed Sep 19, 2012 11:37 pm

Blue wrote:Messi could play shit all game, he will still get his goals + assists because literately everything in the final ball goes through him.

So what ? lol

by Zealous Thu Sep 20, 2012 2:50 am

Messi reduced to being a flat track bully stat padder. Long gone are his days where he would be stepping up when it mattered.

History will not remember Leverkusen, Plezen and Spartak sadly.

by Albiceleste Thu Sep 20, 2012 4:45 am

Zealous wrote:Messi reduced to being a flat track bully stat padder. Long gone are his days where he would be stepping up when it mattered.

History will not remember Leverkusen, Plezen and Spartak sadly.

you seem unhealthily obsessed with Ronaldo and Messi mate.

by Arquitecto Thu Sep 20, 2012 4:47 am

Albiceleste wrote:
Zealous wrote:Messi reduced to being a flat track bully stat padder. Long gone are his days where he would be stepping up when it mattered.

History will not remember Leverkusen, Plezen and Spartak sadly.
you seem unhealthily obsessed with Ronaldo and Messi mate.

No need for that Albi. Most of his posts iare tongue in cheek anyway.

by Albiceleste Thu Sep 20, 2012 4:52 am

Arquitecto wrote:
Albiceleste wrote:
Zealous wrote:Messi reduced to being a flat track bully stat padder. Long gone are his days where he would be stepping up when it mattered.

History will not remember Leverkusen, Plezen and Spartak sadly.
you seem unhealthily obsessed with Ronaldo and Messi mate.

No need for that Albi. Most of his posts iare tongue in cheek anyway.

Just saying, it gets a bit redundant, trying to badmouth Messi or praise Ronaldo in every post about the topic.

by CBarca Thu Sep 20, 2012 4:56 am

Haven't you heard?

That's the new 'cool' thing to do Razz

by kiranr Thu Sep 20, 2012 5:12 am

Arquitecto wrote:
Albiceleste wrote:
Zealous wrote:Messi reduced to being a flat track bully stat padder. Long gone are his days where he would be stepping up when it mattered.

History will not remember Leverkusen, Plezen and Spartak sadly.
you seem unhealthily obsessed with Ronaldo and Messi mate.

No need for that Albi. Most of his posts iare tongue in cheek anyway.

Yeah, i agree. Nobody takes Zealous serious anyway eco smile

by billy_gr Thu Sep 20, 2012 8:33 am

I take Zeal seriously... Haters gonna hate Twisted Evil

Plus, in the spirit of things, will Madrid fans be more scared if we will not field Messi in the next classico?

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