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Post by EarlyPrototype Tue Jun 28, 2011 12:41 pm

Barca will get Sanchez so I doubt they will pay 35-40 for Sanchez, 35 for Cesc and 45 for Neymar.

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Post by rsinatra Tue Jun 28, 2011 12:42 pm

Well, if they get Sanchez, I agree with you. But it's not sure they will get any of them yet. I guess they are just making bids and hoping one or two will come lol.
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Post by EarlyPrototype Tue Jun 28, 2011 12:47 pm

Yeh especially if City outbid Barca for Sanchez then we will have competition on our hands to sign him.
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Post by uzonero Tue Jun 28, 2011 12:56 pm

I think neymar's personal choice would be madrid
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Post by Guiltybystander Tue Jun 28, 2011 12:59 pm

I can't imagine Barcelona placed a bid for Neymar...?

Anyway, he won't be our Messi, because he isn't our own youth product, so it won't have the same flair anyway.

It is not even our own "good find" because he is already 45 million. Glorified Galactico.
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Post by EarlyPrototype Tue Jun 28, 2011 1:03 pm

Still will be our Brazilian Messi Smile in terms of talent. He is 5 years younger so lets give him 1 season at a big club before people say he will never be as good oh and the Copa as well Smile.
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Post by Guiltybystander Tue Jun 28, 2011 1:05 pm

I'm not saying he isn't as good as Messi (he probably isn't, but that wasn't my point). I am just saying that it isn't exactly the same since we bought him and Messi is a Barcelona success story???
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Post by EarlyPrototype Tue Jun 28, 2011 1:07 pm

Well Messi was already one talented kid before Barca got him. As long as Neymar succeeds it doesn't matter.
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Post by Guiltybystander Tue Jun 28, 2011 1:13 pm

He was 11 and River Plate didn't want him, because his growth hormones were too expensive....

Well, I of course hope that he succeeds if he comes, but to me, there isn't much credit for Madrid in buying a 45 million euro player everyone already knows if he does well for us. So in that sense, he would never be a Messi-story.

But I guess that will just be my perennial frustration as a Madrid fan.
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Post by EarlyPrototype Tue Jun 28, 2011 1:15 pm

Inter Milan wanted him very badly just before Barca signed him. We gave up our chance to sign him when he was 13, but anyway he will be our Messi in in terms of talent and not history.
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Post by rsinatra Tue Jun 28, 2011 1:16 pm

Guiltybystander wrote:I can't imagine Barcelona placed a bid for Neymar...?

Anyway, he won't be our Messi, because he isn't our own youth product, so it won't have the same flair anyway.

It is not even our own "good find" because he is already 45 million. Glorified Galactico.

Well, who cares if he is your own Messi.. Ronaldo wasn't product of RM, neither was Zidane, C. Ronaldo, etc.

I understand your frustration though. It's nice to be able to say that your club "grew" that player lol Smile.
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Post by EarlyPrototype Tue Jun 28, 2011 1:18 pm

Gbs Morata, Sarabia, Jese, Coulibaly and co. will be our youth players Smile.
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Post by Guiltybystander Tue Jun 28, 2011 1:23 pm

That is why my heart really lies with Ajax, as a born and raised Amsterdammer.
Hahaha.

But I have a deep, deep love for Madrid too, of course, as you have all noticed.
I just wish we returned to our roots, and I finally thought we were changing our ways again, but alas.

And we do indeed have a great youth generation waiting. GIVE THEM A CHANCE.
(Also, Coulibaly isn't realllllly our youth player, it must be said, but whatever).


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Post by EarlyPrototype Tue Jun 28, 2011 1:28 pm

As long as he comes through Castilla we can say he is muhahahah.
Our first team players are all so young I worry about the talent coming through.
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Post by Guiltybystander Tue Jun 28, 2011 1:30 pm

Hahaha, that is true, we will have a team for the next 8 years looking at things now.

Glad to see Mou is giving the youth a chance too - don't forget about Granero etc. too! I forsee a great future for him too.
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Post by dzah Tue Jun 28, 2011 3:01 pm

no love for Hazard? Crying or Very sad

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Post by Mr Nick09 Tue Jun 28, 2011 3:16 pm

rsinatra wrote:If there's anything that might happen to Neymar at RM, that is similar to Kaká's story, is that he'll have a hard time getting a spot. Especially with Mourinho in charge. I really don't think he'll be giving him a good playing time except for some 20 minute cameos and Copa del Rey matches... Neymar needs more than that.


you are terribly mistaken dude, kaka and his fraudulent injuries is the reason he isnt playing. The guy is injured all the time so he can hardly do better than cameos. we even played him ahead of some people during the season, just because he is kaka... so dont tell me he has a hard time having a spot. nothing is handed to him as if he is a god and just walks into the 1st eleven.
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Post by dzah Tue Jun 28, 2011 3:20 pm

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Post by Raptorgunner Tue Jun 28, 2011 3:46 pm

Arsenal would have been a perfect place for him, too bad we wont even think about 45 mill Very Happy .
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Post by S32TABLANCA Tue Jun 28, 2011 4:42 pm

We have no Messi? Of course we do! Raul!

Messi is their Raul, Puyol is their Hierro, 2008-11 is their 1999-2002. Word.
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Post by Swanhends Tue Jun 28, 2011 4:51 pm

theres nowhere for him to go

might as well stay at santos

at chelsea he'll get his legs snapped if he starts doing the kind of stuff he does standing over the ball in brazil

he likes to carry the ball to much to play for barca...too indivualistic

madrid....he is the farthest thing from a mou player that I can think of


the perfect team for him is milan and they can't afford him, so stay at santos kid
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Post by Ganso Tue Jun 28, 2011 4:56 pm

the 5 teams are Madrid,chelsea,barca,city and zenit.BUT only Chelsea and Madrid are said to pay the full amount
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Post by Great Leader Sprucenuce Tue Jun 28, 2011 5:01 pm

bhends wrote:theres nowhere for him to go

might as well stay at santos

at chelsea he'll get his legs snapped if he starts doing the kind of stuff he does standing over the ball in brazil

he likes to carry the ball to much to play for barca...too indivualistic

madrid....he is the farthest thing from a mou player that I can think of


the perfect team for him is milan and they can't afford him, so stay at santos kid

I agree with everything other than the Milan being the perfect team for him they play 4-3-1-2, i seriously dont see a spot for him.....

Id like to add something to the Barca comment, imo what i have seen have him he seems to not work hard enough when he does'nt have the ball and also imo he does'nt have the passing ability required.

Two things which i think have attracted Barca to Sanchez has he has both in abundance especially the work rate.
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Post by rsinatra Tue Jun 28, 2011 5:21 pm

his passing ability isnt that good? god, have you guys watched his assists at the libertadores and paulista this year? his passing is good... but yes, he's individualistic.. nothing he can't learn imo..

btw, it seems somebody misquoted some people here...

here is what muricy ramalho, our coach (not president), said about neymar's possibilties difficulties at RM:

"Mourinho focuses a lot on tactical work and he does not like letting the rivals play, I don't know if he [Neymar] will have freedom at Madrid," Ramalho told Esporte Interactivo.

"But I don't think he will end up like Kaka at Madrid. Neymar is different, a better player. There are many great players at Madrid, and so I don't know if he will get freedom on the pitch."
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Post by Swanhends Tue Jun 28, 2011 5:21 pm

Immaculate_Mole wrote:I agree with everything other than the Milan being the perfect team for him they play 4-3-1-2, i seriously dont see a spot for him.....

Id like to add something to the Barca comment, imo what i have seen have him he seems to not work hard enough when he does'nt have the ball and also imo he does'nt have the passing ability required.

Two things which i think have attracted Barca to Sanchez has he has both in abundance especially the work rate.

Sanchez has the same "dont let go of the ball" problem as Neymar, which is why I think it would be interesting to see him play for Barca...he does have a better work rate though

@milan comment

he can play as second striker and run side to side just like robinho does for them...more importantly than the positions open though, is the fact that allegri's gameplan is designed to allow the three forwards to do whatever they want...they aren't expected to play defense, aren't expected to work very hard, etc...

the gameplan for milan is pack the midfield with defensive-minded or hardworking players, knock it up to one of the forwards, and let them try to work some magic

thats perfect for neymar
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Post by rsinatra Tue Jun 28, 2011 5:23 pm

Ganso wrote:the 5 teams are Madrid,chelsea,barca,city and zenit.BUT only Chelsea and Madrid are said to pay the full amount

source?

i understood that we have allowed all 5 teams to speak to neymar, which would mean that they've all offered to pay the full amount..
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