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Post by jibers Mon Aug 06, 2012 9:21 pm

WTF? Seriously I really don't understand SAF at all. WTF is this. We have VAlencia, Nani, Young and Giggs on the flanks. :facepalm:
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Post by BarrileteCosmico Mon Aug 06, 2012 9:24 pm

I thought he was an AM?
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Post by jibers Mon Aug 06, 2012 9:26 pm

BarrileteCosmico wrote:I thought he was an AM?

RM or AM

still doesnt make sense. Kagawa, Young Rooney all play in the hole.
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Post by Le Samourai Mon Aug 06, 2012 9:36 pm

He'll probably get him "10 goals a season" lol.

If he moves Kagawa to CM tho...........
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Post by donttreadonred Mon Aug 06, 2012 9:41 pm

Le Samourai wrote:He'll probably get him "10 goals a season" lol.

If he moves Kagawa to CM tho...........
Wait, wait... Let's think this through...

----------Rooney
-----------Lucas
Young----------------Nani
-----Scholes-Kagawa

I hope De Gea has been working hard in the offseason

rofl
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Post by jibers Mon Aug 06, 2012 9:50 pm

donttreadonred wrote:
Le Samourai wrote:He'll probably get him "10 goals a season" lol.

If he moves Kagawa to CM tho...........
Wait, wait... Let's think this through...

----------Rooney
-----------Lucas
Young----------------Nani
-----Scholes-Kagawa

I hope De Gea has been working hard in the offseason

rofl

he got enough practice last season.
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Post by Funkentelechy Mon Aug 06, 2012 9:50 pm

Brazilian press says he'll sign for PSG.

Signing him doesn't make a lot of sense for them too though
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Post by Swanhends Mon Aug 06, 2012 10:16 pm

United isnt getting him
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Post by Le Samourai Mon Aug 06, 2012 10:22 pm

donttreadonred wrote:
Le Samourai wrote:He'll probably get him "10 goals a season" lol.

If he moves Kagawa to CM tho...........
Wait, wait... Let's think this through...

----------Rooney
-----------Lucas
Young----------------Nani
-----Scholes-Kagawa
Evra---------------------Rafael

I hope De Gea has been working hard in the offseason

rofl

Funny thing is , they will still concede less goals than almost everyone somehow.
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Post by RedOranje Mon Aug 06, 2012 10:23 pm

donttreadonred wrote:
Le Samourai wrote:He'll probably get him "10 goals a season" lol.

If he moves Kagawa to CM tho...........
Wait, wait... Let's think this through...

----------Rooney
-----------Lucas
Young----------------Nani
-----Scholes-Kagawa
Jones - Anderson - Cleverley - Valencia

I hope De Gea has been working hard in the offseason

rofl
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Post by Tomasso Nerazzurro Mon Aug 06, 2012 10:25 pm

Lucas is comfortable as an AM, right striker or a winger, those positions are covered by United as you have said, so I agree that there is no reason for United to sign him, but no worries, as he's not going to United. He's more than likely going to go to PSG.

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Post by chinomaster182 Mon Aug 06, 2012 10:43 pm

As said above, United isn't getting Lucas.

Beside that, here's why they wanted to get Lucas:
1.- Rotation
2.- Ryan Giggs is 38 freaking years old

"The day you say you have to do something, you're screwed. Because you are going to make a bad deal. You can always recover from the player you didn't sign. You may never recover from the player you signed at the wrong price."
-Billy Beane

Also, i think after decades of being one of the best ever, SAF deserves some leeway in his decisions.
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Post by SchinnerC Mon Aug 06, 2012 10:56 pm

As good as Fergie is as a man manager, I don't think he's ever great in judging players and identifying the team's weak spots.

I don't know why he's going after Lucas. I don't know why he's going after RVP. I don't know why he's not going after Sahin. I don't know why he's not going after M'Villa. I don't know why our interest in Modric stopped. I don't know why we have no interest in one of the Benders.

He deserves respect for what he achieved but that doesn't mean we the fans shouldn't question his decisions.

And Lucas is not even worth 25 mil imo. Let alone 45m. Let it go ffs
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Post by jibers Mon Aug 06, 2012 11:11 pm

SchinnerC wrote:As good as Fergie is as a man manager, I don't think he's ever great in judging players and identifying the team's weak spots.

I don't know why he's going after Lucas. I don't know why he's going after RVP. I don't know why he's not going after Sahin. I don't know why he's not going after M'Villa. I don't know why our interest in Modric stopped. I don't know why we have no interest in one of the Benders.

He deserves respect for what he achieved but that doesn't mean we the fans shouldn't question his decisions.

And Lucas is not even worth 25 mil imo. Let alone 45m. Let it go ffs

yea. Sahin no, but Bender or vila would do. We need someone that has a bite in the cm. Hargreaves was perfect. WTF did he get injured Sad
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Post by chinomaster182 Mon Aug 06, 2012 11:35 pm

The Manchester United squad is very very well balanced in rotation and depth. Its designed to play 4-4-2 with two players for each position.

The two double pivot players for the first squad are:
Michael Carrick
Paul Scholes
Darren Fletcher
Tom Cleverly

and now Kagawa might slot in there somewhere (yes i know he plays ACM). When Paul Scholes go Nick Powell might also take his place.

Maybe United could go for an extra midfielder just to be safe, however the priority should be on getting the Ryan Giggs cover.
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Post by SchinnerC Tue Aug 07, 2012 1:42 am

chinomaster182 wrote:The Manchester United squad is very very well balanced in rotation and depth. Its designed to play 4-4-2 with two players for each position.

The two double pivot players for the first squad are:
Michael Carrick
Paul Scholes
Darren Fletcher
Tom Cleverly

and now Kagawa might slot in there somewhere (yes i know he plays ACM). When Paul Scholes go Nick Powell might also take his place.

Maybe United could go for an extra midfielder just to be safe, however the priority should be on getting the Ryan Giggs cover.

Scholesy's 52. Fletcher still sick with the virus, may only get back to fitness by end of the year or next year. hopefully Cleverley stays fit but we should not risk it. That's how fragile our midfield is.

For RW or LW we have Nani, Valencia, Bebe,Giggs and Welbeck who can definitely do a job in those positions.

Does anyone else shares my concern of Phil Jones? Overhyped and doesn't have the quality to show for it. I see this as Evans' proper breakout season.
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Post by vizkosity Tue Aug 07, 2012 1:56 am

GET A TRUE MIDFIELD DESTROYER FFS. AT LEAST FLETCHER CAN....oh wait Rolling Eyes
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Post by dronte Tue Aug 07, 2012 5:10 am

From what I've read PSG offered 45mil euros for Lucas (that's why Inter pulled out), no way MU is going to compete with that

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Post by free_cat Tue Aug 07, 2012 5:29 am

Is Cleverly fit? Is he defensively sound? I was tremendously impressed with him last season before the injury.

If United has him, IMO they need mainly a DM and they will have an awesome team:

De Gea
Defence
Valencia Cleverly DM/Carrick/Fletcher Nani
--------------Kagawa
--------------Rooney

Superb team.
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Post by Ganso Tue Aug 07, 2012 7:05 am

According to reports he chose psg over man u because he didnt like manchester Laughing
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Post by REWB Tue Aug 07, 2012 7:18 am

Ganso wrote:According to reports he chose psg over man u because he didnt like manchester Laughing

okay, i would have slaughtered him here and said its obviously just about the money, but you HAVE to admit, paris is an amazing place to live if you are a footballer.
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Post by Ganso Tue Aug 07, 2012 7:21 am

Tbh Manchester looks like a pretty boring place
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Post by Jonathan28 Tue Aug 07, 2012 7:51 am

Having lived in Manchester for alot of my life, I can confidently say Lucas made the right choice.

Manchester has improved greatly over the years though, Old Trafford was a dump before they built the shopping centre and began the regeneration program. I was back where I lived recently, near where Maine Road(Man City's old stadium) was, just had to cross an alleyway to get to the stadium for games(good times), but yeah, its improved alot, all of the thugs have been removed, so I'm glad, but I would still rather live in Paris anyday.
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Post by Gil Tue Aug 07, 2012 8:05 am

'twas a publicity stunt Jibs. Can't remember the last time Ferguson publicly announced he was after a player.
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Post by Eivindo Tue Aug 07, 2012 9:57 am

Funkentelechy wrote:Brazilian press says he'll sign for PSG.

Signing him doesn't make a lot of sense for them too though

PSG will be the new place where other big clubs can get future stars like former Madrid rejects.
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