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Post by Real Kandahar Tue Jul 17, 2012 7:37 pm

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Post by Onyx Tue Jul 17, 2012 7:39 pm

Coentrao's overall better imo. However Alba is slightly better attacking wise.

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Post by Die Borussen Tue Jul 17, 2012 8:36 pm

nah coentrao is better in every aspect

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Post by Guest Tue Jul 17, 2012 10:16 pm

deadrave wrote:nah coentrao is better in every aspect

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Post by Great Leader Sprucenuce Tue Jul 17, 2012 10:28 pm

From what i saw at the Euro's, Coentrao is better is defensively but Alba is better going forward.

But Coentrao was very poor for Madrid and Alba i hadn't watched much.

Going sit on the fence, ( again) until i have seen more.
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Post by The Franchise Tue Jul 17, 2012 10:31 pm

The Portugl and Benfica version of Coentrao is better.

The Madrid version, I am almost as bad as.
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Post by VanDeezNuts Tue Jul 17, 2012 10:36 pm

they were both great at the euros.

but club performances are what set them apart by a mile.. alba has been shit for valencia and when coentrao has played LB he has been excellent for madrid and benfica.

overall coentrao is the better player but we will have to see how alba plays for barca.

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Post by The Franchise Tue Jul 17, 2012 10:40 pm

What?

If anything its opposite.

Coentrao have been terribe for Madrid, while Alba has done very well for himself at Valencia.
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Post by buddytaller Tue Jul 17, 2012 10:50 pm

Alba has been not been all that great for Valencia, many Valencia fans have questioned his defensive abilities, Alba was for sometime last season, second choice to the French left back Mathieu and only became a permanent fixture when Unai Emery opted for the "two left backs formation". He's good going forward though.

Coentrao though is a pretty similar player ie. a converted winger, but with much better defensive abilities. As far as left backs in la liga go, Marcelo > Coentrao > Alba.
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Post by The Franchise Tue Jul 17, 2012 10:55 pm

Alba was never second choice.

He started 27 games, came off the bench for 5. That 32 games.

Add in the suspensions he served for his 1 red and 13 yellows that makes up more or less all games.

Everyone knows he cant defend, but that doesnt mean he didnt do well for himself at Valencia.



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Post by VanDeezNuts Tue Jul 17, 2012 11:12 pm

coentrao has been terrible at madrid as LB? news to me. benfica too? Suspect

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Post by Die Borussen Tue Jul 17, 2012 11:25 pm

vanDEEZ wrote:coentrao has been terrible at madrid as LB? news to me. benfica too? Suspect

unfortunately one bayern insident which "cost a qualification" gave bad reputation

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Post by buddytaller Tue Jul 17, 2012 11:39 pm

The Franchise wrote:Alba was never second choice.

He started 27 games, came off the bench for 5. That 32 games.

Add in the suspensions he served for his 1 red and 13 yellows that makes up more or less all games.

Everyone knows he cant defend, but that doesnt mean he didnt do well for himself at Valencia.




According to whoscored Alba made 20 appearances as left back in all competitions (excluding Europa and CDR) for Valencia, whilst Mathieu made 24 appearances as left back It seems like the shared minutes for me.
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Post by Onyx Tue Jul 17, 2012 11:43 pm

Coentrao wasn't all that bad imo last season.

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Post by Great Leader Sprucenuce Tue Jul 17, 2012 11:44 pm

deadrave wrote:
vanDEEZ wrote:coentrao has been terrible at madrid as LB? news to me. benfica too? Suspect

unfortunately one bayern insident which "cost a qualification" gave bad reputation

No Coentrao was very poor in the season just gone.

Not all his own fault tbf to him as he was deployed in midfield and at RB and he's never a midfielder or a RB in a million years but he wasnt that great at LB either.

It's not just against Bayern, he has gave many average/poor performances.

As i said it's not all he's own fault but fact is he did.

I wont comment on Alba because i haven't watched him enough.
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Post by Onyx Tue Jul 17, 2012 11:58 pm

He barely played in midfield and at RB.

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Post by buddytaller Wed Jul 18, 2012 12:00 am

Coentrao did quite well for me, he provide solidity at left back whenever it was needed, made a few errors but his overall play was excellent, it's a shame he had to compete with an inform Marcelo, which has limited his appearances for Madrid, but he showed the world what he's really made up of with his world class performances at the Euros.
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Post by Jonathan28 Wed Jul 18, 2012 1:34 am

Buddytaller obviously rarely, if ever, saw a Valencia game. Alba played half his games as a left winger last season, with Mathieu playing behind him at left back, they were extremly dangerous together.
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Post by VanDeezNuts Wed Jul 18, 2012 1:45 am

thats why he said earlier that they played a 2 LB system to cover their defensive frailties.. madrid did this a few times with coentrao and marcelo.

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Post by The Franchise Wed Jul 18, 2012 5:06 pm

As soon as you quoted whoscored I keep scrolling down. Come with your own opinion or dont come at all.

I hate Coentrao's punchable face, but I really enjoyed his play at Benfica (despite being a Porto can), he was very good there.

But for Madrid he was way below average in my opinion, especially the better the opponants were.

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Post by Kingofeverythingclassy Wed Jul 18, 2012 6:21 pm

Coentrao is pretty garbage defensively,I have always maintained this stance.

Both him & Alba are good offensively although I think Alba is much better offensively,much as in a solid much not a huge much.

Alba is not that good a defender though. Expectations would be much higher at Barca & he is defensively a huge novice.

Neither I rate very highly for a complete lack of defensive ability

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Post by Abramovich Thu Jul 19, 2012 4:09 pm

AlAba > both :bow:
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Post by EarlyPrototype Thu Jul 19, 2012 4:48 pm

I would take Coentrao easily.
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Post by buddytaller Thu Jul 19, 2012 4:59 pm

People overrating Alba here, pretty sure a lot of his admirers will come back calling him all sort of names when Di Maria and Ronaldo rape him in the Super Copa, Coentrao is far better defensively than Alba, ask anyone who followed both players keenly last season. It will be a mistake to just judge him only by his 6 games at the Euros.

I also don't see why people are all over Coentrao's performance against Munich at the Allianz arena, I thought he did very well over the 90 minutes and kept both Robben and Lahm silent, made an error during injury time, but that shouldn't wipe off his excellent defending in the 90 minutes. He was again excellent in the Euros against Germany, Spain and the Netherlands despite getting little help defensively from Ronaldo and having defend very often against two opposition players at the same time.

Coetrao over Alba any day, still prefer Marcelo over both though.
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