Proof that AVB was better than RDM

Mole that's a retarded stat, you can judge RDM when he plays 27 games.

RDM games have been ridicously much harder + he has been resting players. Chelsea has played Newcastle, Barcelona and Liverpool just this month ffs, on top of that he rested players in alot of them...

AVB beat us 3-0 away and RDM lost to us 2-0 at home

Di Matteo putting all his eggs in one basket?

Di Matteo? You mean Terry vs AVB.

I guess that stat did not show that our schedule under RDM has been ridiculously tight and difficult. In the month of April, we had an average of 1 match every 3 days. I remember quite well how we had to play Spurs on Sunday @ 6pm in the FA Cup Semi(after playing only a few days earlier) and then having to play Barca the next Wednesday and Arsenal the next Saturday and then Barca again the following tuesday.

Its safe to say that AVB did enough damage for the league to not mean anything at this point.

RDM (apparently spelling Di Matteo is hard work) has the luxury of having certain individuals not plotting a mutiny of sorts behind his back. I think the only problem Villas-Boas did was trying to get rid of the mafia too quickly. Tempting as it were but some political tact should have been used.

Suffice to say, I would always believe Chelsea were better off with AVB but whatever...

Barrettinator wrote:

Its safe to say that AVB did enough damage for the league to not mean anything at this point.

What? you were closer to the top 4 when he was sacked than you are now

I accept you have been fighting on three fronts but come on

i think chelsea would rather win the fa cup and have a chance at winning cl than be 5th in the league instead of 6th. just saying

Great Leader Sprucenuce wrote:

Barrettinator wrote:

Its safe to say that AVB did enough damage for the league to not mean anything at this point.

What? you were closer to the top 4 when he was sacked than you are now

I accept you have been fighting on three fronts but come on

Yeah, with AVB we would have been knocked out of the FA Cup by frakkin Birmingham, knocked out of the CL by Napoli and be struggling between 5th and 6th in the league. You prefer that? Okay then.

Proof that statistics can be used for deceiving part #1231235

Adit wrote:Proof that statistics can be used for deceiving part #1231235

biggest stat deception of the season..

nah this one wins imo

RDM rested a large number of players for the FA Cup and UCL games so judging him on the league is really really stupid.

Its different.. can't compare these stats just like that. RDM got a team with a losing mentality, who was clearly crossed off from CL finals + FA Cup finals. Then he had a hectic schedule, as barrett said above, its been like a match every 3 days, and most of them quite crucial matches.

Barrettinator wrote:

Great Leader Sprucenuce wrote:

Barrettinator wrote:

Its safe to say that AVB did enough damage for the league to not mean anything at this point.

What? you were closer to the top 4 when he was sacked than you are now

I accept you have been fighting on three fronts but come on

Yeah, with AVB we would have been knocked out of the FA Cup by frakkin Birmingham, knocked out of the CL by Napoli and be struggling between 5th and 6th in the league. You prefer that? Okay then.

Who says you would have got knocked out by Birmingham? who says Napoli would have knocked you out? ( highly likely but you dont know) and you still are struggling in 6th in the league.......

I was'nt actually majorly serious but to say AVB did all the damage is just stupid...... you were a win from 4th place when he was sacked and considering how many points Spurs and Arsenal have dropped since then you could have easily caught them......

I dont care if he is fighting on 3 fronts 3 wins in 10 games is not really a good excuse..... considering how big your squad is aswell.

Crimson wrote:RDM rested a large number of players for the FA Cup and UCL games so judging him on the league is really really stupid.

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Great Leader Sprucenuce wrote:

Barrettinator wrote:

Great Leader Sprucenuce wrote:

Barrettinator wrote:

Its safe to say that AVB did enough damage for the league to not mean anything at this point.

What? you were closer to the top 4 when he was sacked than you are now

I accept you have been fighting on three fronts but come on

Yeah, with AVB we would have been knocked out of the FA Cup by frakkin Birmingham, knocked out of the CL by Napoli and be struggling between 5th and 6th in the league. You prefer that? Okay then.

Who says you would have got knocked out by Birmingham? who says Napoli would have knocked you out? ( highly likely but you dont know) and you still are struggling in 6th in the league.......

I was'nt actually majorly serious but to say AVB did all the damage is just stupid...... you were a win from 4th place when he was sacked and considering how many points Spurs and Arsenal have dropped since then you could have easily caught them......

I dont care if he is fighting on 3 fronts 3 wins in 10 games is not really a good excuse..... considering how big your squad is aswell.

PL games under Di Matteo:

Stoke(H) 1-0 W
Man City(A) 2-1 L
Spurs(H) 0-0 D
A Villa(A) 2-4 W
Wigan(H) 2-1 W
Fulham(A) 1-1 D
Arsenal(A) 0-0 D
QPR(H) 6-1 W
Newcastle(H) 0-2 L
Liverpool(A) 1-4 L

I count 4 wins.Draws against Spurs,Arsenal and Fulham.Loss at the Etihad(Man City have won 17 and drawn 1 there),Loss against Newcastle thanks to 2 Cisse wondergoals,And a meaningless loss against Liverpool.

And when you think we'd games against Birmingham,Napoli,,Leicester,Benfica,Spurs,Barcelona mixed in among these,there's no denying Robbie's done a great job.

Noonan22 wrote:

Great Leader Sprucenuce wrote:

Barrettinator wrote:

Great Leader Sprucenuce wrote:

Barrettinator wrote:

Its safe to say that AVB did enough damage for the league to not mean anything at this point.

What? you were closer to the top 4 when he was sacked than you are now

I accept you have been fighting on three fronts but come on

Yeah, with AVB we would have been knocked out of the FA Cup by frakkin Birmingham, knocked out of the CL by Napoli and be struggling between 5th and 6th in the league. You prefer that? Okay then.

Who says you would have got knocked out by Birmingham? who says Napoli would have knocked you out? ( highly likely but you dont know) and you still are struggling in 6th in the league.......

I was'nt actually majorly serious but to say AVB did all the damage is just stupid...... you were a win from 4th place when he was sacked and considering how many points Spurs and Arsenal have dropped since then you could have easily caught them......

I dont care if he is fighting on 3 fronts 3 wins in 10 games is not really a good excuse..... considering how big your squad is aswell.

PL games under Di Matteo:

Stoke(H) 1-0 W
Man City(A) 2-1 L
Spurs(H) 0-0 D
A Villa(A) 2-4 W
Wigan(H) 2-1 W
Fulham(A) 1-1 D
Arsenal(A) 0-0 D
QPR(H) 6-1 W
Newcastle(H) 0-2 L
Liverpool(A) 1-4 L

I count 4 wins.Draws against Spurs,Arsenal and Fulham.Loss at the Etihad(Man City have won 17 and drawn 1 there),Loss against Newcastle thanks to 2 Cisse wondergoals,And a meaningless loss against Liverpool.

And when you think we'd games against Birmingham,Napoli,,Leicester,Benfica,Spurs,Barcelona mixed in among these,there's no denying Robbie's done a great job.

Took the words straight out of my mind.

Hold up lol, who said Di Matteo hasnt done a great job? i didnt even make the image in the OP i just posted to see what people thought......

I just argued the complete and utter BS that AVB ruined your league campaign as i pointed out you were closer to CL qualification before he left than you are know......

The 3 competitions is'nt really a great excuse considering how big your squad is......

Sure Di Matteo has done a great job i never denied that...... i was just argueing against the complete and utter idiocy that claims AVB destroyed your league campaign.....

Utter rubbish.

The league campaign became irrelevant though.

Under Villas Boas it was the priority.

Great Leader Sprucenuce wrote:Hold up lol, who said Di Matteo hasnt done a great job? i didnt even make the image in the OP i just posted to see what people thought......

I just argued the complete and utter BS that AVB ruined your league campaign as i pointed out you were closer to CL qualification before he left than you are know......

The 3 competitions is'nt really a great excuse considering how big your squad is......

Sure Di Matteo has done a great job i never denied that...... i was just argueing against the complete and utter idiocy that claims AVB destroyed your league campaign.....

Utter rubbish.

Wut??? LOL

Okay, who do we have on the bench? A washed up Essien who isn't 1/50th of the player he was. A greedy washed up Malouda who basically should quit football. A basically undeveloped Sturridge. Young Romeu who still has a lot to learn. A 35 year old Ferreira who got past it years ago. Hilario the Hilarious who can't even communicate with his CBs. Turnbull the Turnball who has conceded at least 2 goals in every match he has played. Lukaku who has hardly seen any time this season. And Torres.

That is like 90% of the bench. The fact that there are a lot of players in the squad does not make it a quality squad LOL. Apart from the Starting XI, most of the other players are utter crap!

Our squad players are utter shite but we still win games with them..... ( ok over last 6 we have had alot of our main players fit and available but most of the season that has'nt been the case)

If you think thats crap you should buy Williamson, Simpson, Gosling, Ryan Taylor etc etc and you will find out what shit really is......

still gonna stand by that mole?

fatman123 wrote:still gonna stand by that mole?

Di Matteo > Mourinho, Hiddink, Ancelotti, Ranieri etc etc ?

Great logic

Just like with Grant, this has nothing to do with Di Matteo its to do with the players taking responsiblity and control and not bitching and wanting to stab the manager in the back like they did under AVB and Scolari.....

You seriously going to tell me Grant was a fantastic manager?