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Post by StrugaRock Fri Apr 27, 2012 2:21 pm

Idrisozet wrote:
Mr Nick09 wrote:Perez doesnt own Real madrid tho, fans do. The club generate its own money and spends it accordingly. We have no need for sugar daddies.

and you are in debt of over £700m

Our dept is $244m , £150m or €184m :coffee:

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Post by The Messiah Fri Apr 27, 2012 2:29 pm

StrugaRock wrote:
Idrisozet wrote:
Mr Nick09 wrote:Perez doesnt own Real madrid tho, fans do. The club generate its own money and spends it accordingly. We have no need for sugar daddies.

and you are in debt of over £700m

Our dept is $244m , £150m or €184m :coffee:

Bayern Munich chief Uli Hoeness admits he remains upset with the way Spanish clubs are allowed to get away with their massive debts.

Bayern face Real Madrid in the Champions League semifinals with Hoeness still furious over the difference in how the respective teams treat their finances.

"I have great respect for that club, its name, its tradition. The only thing I dislike is that it is a club that has great athletic success but will not pay their debts by itself. That's a problem," said Hoeness.

"I reacted to the news of the €750 million of Treasury debt of Spanish clubs. I cannot understand this! Germany is giving people a lot of money to survive and then this happens.

"I think you have to treat everyone equally. And to me it seems incredible that in Spain three years ago you paid a maximum tax for the players of 25%. It was a great advantage for Spanish clubs. In Germany we pay 45%."

http://nz.sports.yahoo.com/football/la-liga/news/article/-/13452784/bayern-munich-chief-hoeness-again-attacks-real-madrid-over-massive-debt/#


ok my bad, I misread this. but that's still large amount of debt, unlike Bayern 0 debt


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Post by Mr Nick09 Fri Apr 27, 2012 2:31 pm

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Bayern Munich chief Uli Hoeness admits he remains upset with the way Spanish clubs are allowed to get away with their massive debts.

Bayern face Real Madrid in the Champions League semifinals with Hoeness still furious over the difference in how the respective teams treat their finances.

"I have great respect for that club, its name, its tradition. The only thing I dislike is that it is a club that has great athletic success but will not pay their debts by itself. That's a problem," said Hoeness.

"I reacted to the news of the €750 million of Treasury debt of Spanish clubs. I cannot understand this! Germany is giving people a lot of money to survive and then this happens.

"I think you have to treat everyone equally. And to me it seems incredible that in Spain three years ago you paid a maximum tax for the players of 25%. It was a great advantage for Spanish clubs. In Germany we pay 45%."

http://nz.sports.yahoo.com/football/la-liga/news/article/-/13452784/bayern-munich-chief-hoeness-again-attacks-real-madrid-over-massive-debt/#

Oh lord, Spanish ClubSSSSS =/= Real Madrid

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Post by The Messiah Fri Apr 27, 2012 2:34 pm

Mr Nick09 wrote:
Idrisozet wrote:
Bayern Munich chief Uli Hoeness admits he remains upset with the way Spanish clubs are allowed to get away with their massive debts.

Bayern face Real Madrid in the Champions League semifinals with Hoeness still furious over the difference in how the respective teams treat their finances.

"I have great respect for that club, its name, its tradition. The only thing I dislike is that it is a club that has great athletic success but will not pay their debts by itself. That's a problem," said Hoeness.

"I reacted to the news of the €750 million of Treasury debt of Spanish clubs. I cannot understand this! Germany is giving people a lot of money to survive and then this happens.

"I think you have to treat everyone equally. And to me it seems incredible that in Spain three years ago you paid a maximum tax for the players of 25%. It was a great advantage for Spanish clubs. In Germany we pay 45%."

http://nz.sports.yahoo.com/football/la-liga/news/article/-/13452784/bayern-munich-chief-hoeness-again-attacks-real-madrid-over-massive-debt/#

Oh lord, Spanish ClubSSSSS =/= Real Madrid

:facepalm:

You didn't read all of my post but nevertheless..


Our dept is $244m , £150m or €184m :facepalm:

We've 0 debt


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Post by Le Samourai Fri Apr 27, 2012 2:36 pm

You really think we are in financial trouble lol ?

Our revenue almost triples out debt yealy.
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Post by Mr Nick09 Fri Apr 27, 2012 2:37 pm

Congratulation you have 0 debt, i hope the sun will set tomorrow, then again it's 2012...dun dun dun
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Post by Le Samourai Fri Apr 27, 2012 2:38 pm

Idro-

Your revenue yearly is 150 million - 200 million less than hours.

Just because we owe Spanish banks (Who we have very little pressure to pay) some money, does not mean we are in any sort of financial trouble lol.
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Post by Pedram Fri Apr 27, 2012 2:40 pm

Idrisozet :facepalm:

I don't even know why he bother himself so much to the point of criticizing La Liga's debt, seriously get a life dude.
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Post by The Messiah Fri Apr 27, 2012 2:41 pm

Le Samourai wrote:You really think we are in financial trouble lol ?

Our revenue almost triples out debt yealy.

If you have so much money, then why not pay your debt


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Post by Great Leader Sprucenuce Fri Apr 27, 2012 2:43 pm

We dont owe the banks a penny :coffee:
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Post by Le Samourai Fri Apr 27, 2012 2:45 pm

Idrisozet wrote:
Le Samourai wrote:You really think we are in financial trouble lol ?

Our revenue almost triples out debt yealy.

If you have so much money, then why take out loans...?

Because taking loans is much more financially stable that reaching into your bank account.

When you're buying a house , even if you have enough money in the bank you still take out installments because it's a more stable investment.

Also, you have to spend money to make money, the loans taken out are already covered by future income possibilities, we are just continuing to pay them off at a natural rate.
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Post by The Messiah Fri Apr 27, 2012 2:47 pm

Pedram wrote:Idrisozet :facepalm:

I don't even know why he bother himself so much to the point of criticizing La Liga's debt, seriously get a life dude.

No..you get a life, it's like there is an elephant is in room and you expect people not to say something about it.

No on is above criticism, you have massive debt that you should pay off and it's causing serious problem to the country and E.U economy, you get a life
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Post by Mr Nick09 Fri Apr 27, 2012 2:48 pm

Idrisozet wrote:
Le Samourai wrote:You really think we are in financial trouble lol ?

Our revenue almost triples out debt yealy.

If you have so much money, then why not pay your debt

you do know that a debt is manageable overtime and payments are maid yearly to decrease that outstanding balance right? you dont just make a lump sum payment to settle it. Our debt is progressively shrinking and we dont need to make any kind of special effort to get it down to 0. Debt doesnt mean that a business cant properly function.
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Post by The Messiah Fri Apr 27, 2012 2:49 pm

Le Samourai wrote:
Idrisozet wrote:
Le Samourai wrote:You really think we are in financial trouble lol ?

Our revenue almost triples out debt yealy.

If you have so much money, then why take out loans...?

Because taking loans is much more financially stable that reaching into your bank account.

When you're buying a house , even if you have enough money in the bank you still take out installments because it's a more stable investment.

Also, you have to spend money to make money, the loans taken out are already covered by future income possibilities, we are just continuing to pay them off at a natural rate.

Well if I have enough money to buy a house I rather just buy it than being in debt.

also the bank will ask for profit and interest and over the years that multiplies and it just goes on and on until the unexpected happens and a club find themselves in a difficult situation
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Post by Le Samourai Fri Apr 27, 2012 2:50 pm

Real Madrid as an institution generate more tax revenue for Spain than any other club lol.
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Post by Le Samourai Fri Apr 27, 2012 2:52 pm

Idrisozet wrote:
Le Samourai wrote:
Idrisozet wrote:
Le Samourai wrote:You really think we are in financial trouble lol ?

Our revenue almost triples out debt yealy.

If you have so much money, then why take out loans...?

Because taking loans is much more financially stable that reaching into your bank account.

When you're buying a house , even if you have enough money in the bank you still take out installments because it's a more stable investment.

Also, you have to spend money to make money, the loans taken out are already covered by future income possibilities, we are just continuing to pay them off at a natural rate.

Well if I have enough money to buy a house I rather just buy it than being in debt.

also the bank will ask for profit and interest and over the years that multiplies and it just goes on and on until the unexpected happens and a club find themselves in a difficult situation

Interest does not always translate to profit due to inflation.

The fact that we may pay an extra 30 million over time is very deceiving when you actualize those figures adjusting for inflation.
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Post by DeviAngel Fri Apr 27, 2012 2:55 pm

back on topic or this gets 🔒 and you continue debate in the right back section
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Post by The Messiah Fri Apr 27, 2012 2:58 pm

Juventus must not sell Vidal or any other important player, they are rebuilding and should look to sign more cheap players like Vidal...


I like when clubs buy reasonably like Juventus and Bayern Munich
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Post by Tomwin Lannister Fri Apr 27, 2012 4:00 pm

Vidal to RM thread turns into economical debate. :bow:


But yeah, Juventus won't be forced to sell, it would only happen if things started to get bad for Vidal and he ended up wanting a move to Madrid.
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Post by halamadrid2 Fri Apr 27, 2012 4:03 pm

Vidal should stay for his own sake, Mou has a tendency of making players vanish lol
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Post by che Fri Apr 27, 2012 4:08 pm

just another tax fraud player like sahin... oh no mister tax revenue collector, we totally had a 20 mil expense for this player :coffee:
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Post by zizzle Fri Apr 27, 2012 4:27 pm

sahin + heggy for vidal ?
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Post by halamadrid2 Fri Apr 27, 2012 4:33 pm

Vidal wants to be a starter no???

He should stay away
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Post by Onyx Fri Apr 27, 2012 4:45 pm

Vidal and Sahin in the middle?

Vidal > any DM we currently have.

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Post by halamadrid2 Fri Apr 27, 2012 4:48 pm

Mou=/=mtfootball
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Post by huntsman Fri Apr 27, 2012 5:17 pm

Sahin will be playing more next season. You will see.
He was just not ready and mourinho didnt want him to pick another serious injury which will destroy his career.
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