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Post by mzamani Wed Apr 25, 2012 4:13 pm

La Liga fans, Serie A fans claiming PL in decline, and look what we have, Chelski in the final, no Italian team in Semis, no La Liga team in final...football can be a b**ch sometimes... Just had to...... PS, dont try and justify how PL is stil in decline....
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Post by izzy Wed Apr 25, 2012 4:14 pm

HAHAHAHAHA.

Really? Ok then.
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Post by stunt Wed Apr 25, 2012 4:15 pm

I still think PL has declined. Chelsea went trough but that doesn't mean they are better than Barca.



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Post by Omniscient Wed Apr 25, 2012 4:16 pm

Top 2 PL teams thrown out of Europa League, Chelsea scraping their way to the final after conceding 45345436 shots on goal against Barcelona and fully deserving to lose?

The Premier League is at best a contender for 4th-ranked league in the world.

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Post by Die Borussen Wed Apr 25, 2012 4:18 pm

chelsea will win in the final 7-1 you heard it here first :coffee:

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Post by Grande_Milano Wed Apr 25, 2012 4:20 pm

mzamani a butthurt premface Very Happy long time no see
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Post by REWB Wed Apr 25, 2012 4:20 pm

Omniscient wrote:Top 2 PL teams thrown out of Europa League, Chelsea scraping their way to the final after conceding 45345436 shots on goal against Barcelona and fully deserving to lose?

The Premier League is at best a contender for 4th-ranked league in the world.

were is the laliga team in the final then? laliga is just overrated by people like you. but anyway i admit epl is not as good as before but it wont take much to get it back to its best, just a few signings from the big teams.
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Post by barca 2011 Wed Apr 25, 2012 4:20 pm

Congrats to Chelsea, they went through to a CL final and that is very impressive. But they by no means played better than Barca, they just parked the bus and barely scraped by, the post was on Cech's side and at the end they just gave up and Torres took advantage. But for both Manchester teams to get thrown out of the EL, the PL isn't not in a decline.
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Post by REWB Wed Apr 25, 2012 4:23 pm

barca 2011 wrote:Congrats to Chelsea, they went through to a CL final and that is very impressive. But they by no means played better than Barca, they just parked the bus and barely scraped by, the post was on Cech's side and at the end they just gave up and Torres took advantage. But for both Manchester teams to get thrown out of the EL, the PL isn't not in a decline.

manchester teams didnt care about the crappy EL lool, barca got knock out the same way they always have to get knocked out. great tactical defensive play, and barca had no answer coming up against a real proper defensive but clinical team.
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Post by Omniscient Wed Apr 25, 2012 4:23 pm

REWB wrote:
Omniscient wrote:Top 2 PL teams thrown out of Europa League, Chelsea scraping their way to the final after conceding 45345436 shots on goal against Barcelona and fully deserving to lose?

The Premier League is at best a contender for 4th-ranked league in the world.

were is the laliga team in the final then? laliga is just overrated by people like you. but anyway i admit epl is not as good as before but it wont take much to get it back to its best, just a few signings from the big teams.

Where are the EPL teams in the knockout stages? Apart from the stars aligning for Chelsea and pushing them through after inferior performances against 3 different teams.

Only the deluded try to analyze anything from the end result only. Nobody with half a brain can say that Chelsea even approaches the skill level of Barca/Bayern/Madrid.

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Post by Tomwin Lannister Wed Apr 25, 2012 4:26 pm

United failed at the group stages, which isn't one or two matches but 6 so it wasn't bad luck. They were outclassed by Bilbao home and away. Man city again went out at the groups, were evenly matched by sporting CP (Lisbon) and knocked out of the Europa.

Napoli had it even tougher than city due to the times they both met Bayern. City had an easy 3 points whereas Napoli met the best Bayern team and not their reserves.

Milan destroyed Arsenal at home and even though they flopped away they were overall the best side.

Chelsea done well to get through but were outclassed by Barcelona and rode their luck.

Madrid narrowly lost to Bayern Munich which hardly makes them flops. It was an even game.

Chelsea being in the final proves nothing about the Premier league, although I give them my congratulations.

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Post by REWB Wed Apr 25, 2012 4:28 pm

Omniscient wrote:
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Omniscient wrote:Top 2 PL teams thrown out of Europa League, Chelsea scraping their way to the final after conceding 45345436 shots on goal against Barcelona and fully deserving to lose?

The Premier League is at best a contender for 4th-ranked league in the world.

were is the laliga team in the final then? laliga is just overrated by people like you. but anyway i admit epl is not as good as before but it wont take much to get it back to its best, just a few signings from the big teams.

Where are the EPL teams in the knockout stages? Apart from the stars aligning for Chelsea and pushing them through after inferior performances against 3 different teams.

Only the deluded try to analyze anything from the end result only. Nobody with half a brain can say that Chelsea even approaches the skill level of Barca/Bayern/Madrid.

yeaaaaaaahhh yeahhhhhhhh, chelsea would beat madrid easily with the defense you guys have, plus expect them to give a game to bayern. chelsea is a champion team, they may be in poor form in the league but they have a champion mentality, they are not sevilla, they are a top team, and they have played well in the cl even if they needed luck at times. just like madrid had luck today just to get to penalties.
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Post by Great Leader Sprucenuce Wed Apr 25, 2012 4:30 pm

Y'all haters IMO :coffee:

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Post by Omniscient Wed Apr 25, 2012 4:31 pm

REWB wrote:
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REWB wrote:
Omniscient wrote:Top 2 PL teams thrown out of Europa League, Chelsea scraping their way to the final after conceding 45345436 shots on goal against Barcelona and fully deserving to lose?

The Premier League is at best a contender for 4th-ranked league in the world.

were is the laliga team in the final then? laliga is just overrated by people like you. but anyway i admit epl is not as good as before but it wont take much to get it back to its best, just a few signings from the big teams.

Where are the EPL teams in the knockout stages? Apart from the stars aligning for Chelsea and pushing them through after inferior performances against 3 different teams.

Only the deluded try to analyze anything from the end result only. Nobody with half a brain can say that Chelsea even approaches the skill level of Barca/Bayern/Madrid.

yeaaaaaaahhh yeahhhhhhhh, chelsea would beat madrid easily with the defense you guys have

I didn't know you were 'special' before reading this. My apologies for arguing with you.

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Post by barca 2011 Wed Apr 25, 2012 4:31 pm

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barca 2011 wrote:Congrats to Chelsea, they went through to a CL final and that is very impressive. But they by no means played better than Barca, they just parked the bus and barely scraped by, the post was on Cech's side and at the end they just gave up and Torres took advantage. But for both Manchester teams to get thrown out of the EL, the PL isn't not in a decline.

manchester teams didnt care about the crappy EL lool, barca got knock out the same way they always have to get knocked out. great tactical defensive play, and barca had no answer coming up against a real proper defensive but clinical team.
Great tactical defensive play to u, parking the bus to me. And I'm cool with that, if u know that thats what it takes and can execute it correctly than more power to you. But in both legs Barca hit the post at least 3 times including Messi's penalty. No excuses but if just one of those wouldve gone in u know that it wouldve changed the course of the tie. I'm not saying Chelsea got to the final by luck but I will say that Barca were unlucky thru out both legs and although they didn't completely outclass Chelsea, Chelsea did NOT play better. No hard feelings.
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Post by BAYERN_MUNICH Wed Apr 25, 2012 4:31 pm

Respect to every top team/league, but now you should show some respect to the Bundesliga, considering that Bayern isn't even champion in the BL
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Post by REWB Wed Apr 25, 2012 4:31 pm

TomJuve wrote:United failed at the group stages, which isn't one or two matches but 6 so it wasn't bad luck. They were outclassed by Bilbao home and away. Man city again went out at the groups, were evenly matched by sporting CP (Lisbon) and knocked out of the Europa.

Napoli had it even tougher than city due to the times they both met Bayern. City had an easy 3 points whereas Napoli met the best Bayern team and not their reserves.

Milan destroyed Arsenal at home and even though they flopped away they were overall the best side.

Chelsea done well to get through but were outclassed by Barcelona and rode their luck.

Madrid narrowly lost to Bayern Munich which hardly makes them flops. It was an even game.

Chelsea being in the final proves nothing about the Premier league, although I give them my congratulations.


barca are still the best possession team, and overall still the best team in the world, they would outclass any team, including madrid and bayern. thats the only way chelsea could play dude, and they did it.
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Post by spanky Wed Apr 25, 2012 4:33 pm

one can argue that chelsea didnt even deserve to beat napoli let alone barca, but thats another story, this just proves that football is most of the time decided by luck and yes i do have to say EPL teams havent looked very bright this season, i guess we will just have to wait and see until next year to decide where the EPL truly stands among the top 4 maybe even 5 leagues.
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Post by REWB Wed Apr 25, 2012 4:33 pm

BAYERN_MUNICH wrote:Respect to every top team/league, but now you should show some respect to the Bundesliga, considering that Bayern isn't even champion in the BL

bundesliga is VERY underrated, i watch this league and i know what it is about. bayern are not even the best team in the league, people will start to see how good dortmond is in the cl next season.
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Post by REWB Wed Apr 25, 2012 4:35 pm

spanky489 wrote:one can argue that chelsea didnt even deserve to beat napoli let alone barca, but thats another story, this just proves that football is most of the time decided by luck and yes i do have to say EPL teams havent looked very bright this season, i guess we will just have to wait and see until next year to decide where the EPL truly stands among the top 4 maybe even 5 leagues.

epl is top 1 by ranking dude. fact, but honestly imo, i dont really think there is a 'top' league i think they all have their qualities.
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Post by REWB Wed Apr 25, 2012 4:37 pm

Omniscient wrote:
REWB wrote:
Omniscient wrote:
REWB wrote:
Omniscient wrote:Top 2 PL teams thrown out of Europa League, Chelsea scraping their way to the final after conceding 45345436 shots on goal against Barcelona and fully deserving to lose?

The Premier League is at best a contender for 4th-ranked league in the world.

were is the laliga team in the final then? laliga is just overrated by people like you. but anyway i admit epl is not as good as before but it wont take much to get it back to its best, just a few signings from the big teams.

Where are the EPL teams in the knockout stages? Apart from the stars aligning for Chelsea and pushing them through after inferior performances against 3 different teams.

Only the deluded try to analyze anything from the end result only. Nobody with half a brain can say that Chelsea even approaches the skill level of Barca/Bayern/Madrid.

yeaaaaaaahhh yeahhhhhhhh, chelsea would beat madrid easily with the defense you guys have

I didn't know you were 'special' before reading this. My apologies for arguing with you.

yeah when i step down to your level you cant take it, can you?
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Post by lenear1030 Wed Apr 25, 2012 4:38 pm

deadrave wrote:chelsea will win in the final 7-1 you heard it here first :coffee:

Torres to raep.
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Post by iNFINITY9910 Wed Apr 25, 2012 4:47 pm

Who are you BSing mate, EPL has been weak like hell this season. This is one of the weakest Chelsea sides after some time. United is not what they used to be, City is still trying to play as a team. Arsenal is the same, all attractive football and all but still not on top of the league. NUFC deserves some credit for the way they are playing, Spuds are choking big time. I don't know bout other leagues, but EPL is weak this season.
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Post by mzamani Wed Apr 25, 2012 5:30 pm

Sigh, my last line asked people not to justify if PL is in decline, but thats what i get. My main point was that Other leagues, especialy Serie A, have not done much to prove they are better than PL this season. And For those saying Chelski could not dominate Barca, uhm, what sort of dream are you having. And luck? Lets not 4get Arsenal were a tap in 4rom taking Milan to extra time,dont get me started on the offside goal in Milan. *Cough pitch cough*. And lastly without due respect, i am prety sure Arsenal would have made the semis if we faced Apoel and CSKA for example. Plus if you want to talk about our league state, we are likely to get more points this season than last, so transition? Yes, decline? No. And if you seriously think United are decline, then, you need help. And i suppose it says something about your leagues quality if a 6th place team from a declining league knocks your best team. Plus no luck s**t excuses
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Post by mzamani Wed Apr 25, 2012 5:31 pm

Sigh, my last line asked people not to justify if PL is in decline, but thats what i get. My main point was that Other leagues, especialy Serie A, have not done much to prove they are better than PL this season. And For those saying Chelski could not dominate Barca, uhm, what sort of dream are you having. And luck? Lets not 4get Arsenal were a tap in 4rom taking Milan to extra time,dont get me started on the offside goal in Milan. *Cough pitch cough*. And lastly without due respect, i am prety sure Arsenal would have made the semis if we faced Apoel and CSKA for example. Plus if you want to talk about our league state, we are likely to get more points this season than last, so transition? Yes, decline? No. And if you seriously think United are decline, then, you need help. And i suppose it says something about your leagues quality if a 6th place team from a declining league knocks your best team. Plus no luck s**t excuses
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