Pepe and Ramos Madrid's Achilles Heel AGAIN

OK, for the people who are going to blame Ronaldo for missing the PK you are dead wrong, he was fantastic today and for the last month.

I have been saying it for two solid seasons straight that Mou letting these two run wild and ruin them important game after game after game. HE refused to blame them for acting like morons and always blamed someone else and it has cost them the ultimate prize.

There lack of discipline has cost Madrid so many huge games against Barca mostly and now this. Those two are the reason you lost today with the dumb tackle of Gomez in the box for the PK and not to mention the Hand ball on the free kick that wasn't called and then Ramos with one of the worst PK's I have ever seen.

It sucks people will focus on Ronaldo for missing the PK and they should focus on these two and Mou for letting them act they way they have been for the last two years. It's sad.

BTW, I wanted Madrid to win, La Liga first for me so this isn't a hate thread more of a I have been telling you these two will cost you in the long run and bang here you go.

Nothing new.... we both got weakness time bomb waiting to explode in our team, they got them 2, we got Valdes

so Ramos is an achilles heel because he missed a penalty???

Dnmac weekly kneejerk.

are oyu kidding me , they were quite good over the course of the match

I am not sure how you can blame them for tonight when in the course of the game, they didnt cost us the win. I really dont it.

You can blame Pepe for grabbing Gomez, but his overall defending was very good. Ramos was a little under but he did good as well.

Take Ramos' name out mate, he was immense. Pepe was his usual idiotic aggressive self. Ramos is a CB, no one other than Mou, owuld ask him to take a pk LOl

Well Pepe gave away the penalty and Ramos missed the defining penalty.

Ramos was superb before the PKs, but of course, his PK miss will always overshadow that.

Ramos was amazing what nonsense is this.

He wasn't that great how you are making it, Pepe had to recover for him most of time but he gets the blame.

Mr Nick09 wrote:I am not sure how you can blame them for tonight when in the course of the game, they didnt cost us the win. I really dont it.

You can blame Pepe for grabbing Gomez, but his overall defending was very good. Ramos was a little under but he did good as well.

Well Pepe should have been called for two penalties and I think it's pretty clear Bayern were not going to score from open play not to mention you can pretty much book that Pepe is going to do something totally idiotic in a big game.

And Ramos' penalty is the definition of a lack of discipline. Go up there stutter through it then just kick it as hard as you can with out aiming. No discipline what so ever.

Both act's are a reflection of there loses and red cards and PK's given away etc in the past. Mou never got them in control and always blamed someone else.

And LOL at the moron saying it's a kneejerk thread. I have been saying this for two years.

dnmac4 wrote:

Mr Nick09 wrote:I am not sure how you can blame them for tonight when in the course of the game, they didnt cost us the win. I really dont it.

You can blame Pepe for grabbing Gomez, but his overall defending was very good. Ramos was a little under but he did good as well.

Well Pepe should have been called for two penalties and I think it's pretty clear Bayern were not going to score from open play not to mention you can pretty much book that Pepe is going to do something totally idiotic in a big game.

And Ramos' penalty is the definition of a lack of discipline. Go up there stutter through it then just kick it as hard as you can with out aiming. No discipline what so ever.

Both act's are a reflection of there loses and red cards and PK's given away etc in the past. Mou never got them in control and always blamed someone else.

And LOL at the moron saying it's a kneejerk thread. I have been saying this for two years.

Lack of discipline? that's just wrong mate. Ok he sent it in row Z, but he lost his nerves a little, maybe at that moment he wasnt the most composer shooter for the task, but to go as far as calling him to achilles heel is too much.

They have been quite good actually all season long, considering the obvious weakness we have in the midfield with Alonso and Khedira.

These two have been totally out of control in big games this year especially against Barca. Sorry to keep bringing up Barca but Madrid really haven't played anyone this year hence not a lot of big games other then Barca and that's not a shot at you it's a fact.

There red cards and penalties and fighting and now missed PK's is what has cost you this year in a lot of big games, how this can be argued is beyond me?

Today is just another episode in there tragic comedy.

All this because of PKs?

Did you watch Ramos in the game? like at all?

lmao achilles heel AGAIN :lol!:

Ramos is becoming a great defender plus a club icon. So, he will improve, i am sure abotu it. Pepe, on the other hand....

dnmac4 wrote:These two have been totally out of control in big games this year especially against Barca. Sorry to keep bringing up Barca but Madrid really haven't played anyone this year hence not a lot of big games other then Barca and that's not a shot at you it's a fact.

There red cards and penalties and fighting and now missed PK's is what has cost you this year in a lot of big games, how this can be argued is beyond me?

Today is just another episode in there tragic comedy.

oh yeah? selective amnesia eh ? go watch saturday's match ..

I thought both had decent games tbh..

Madrid were crap
They were outplayed by Bayern. Good game or not, Bayern were the better team and they deserve to win.

This is not a serious thread.

teamanarchy wrote:Did you watch Ramos in the game? like at all?

What do you think cost you the game? It couldn't be the penalty from Pepe since you know Bayern failed to score from open play in 120 plus minutes of football.

And a penalty that looked like he was drunk running up to it and thought the goal was a field goal post.

IT doesn't matter how good Ramos was all game what matters is the big moments and these two are notorious for losing there cool.

Games against Barca they have been immense and then they fight, stomp on people, get red cards for hitting people etc all in the heat of the moment and that's what people remember at the highest level.

In fact when some of you Madrid fans call Messi, Missi you don't remember the 60 plus goals he's scored this year do you? Just the big moment disaster, right?

I will support Barca next season.
I want to be on the winning side.
Kaka will be sold anyway, and i am tired of all the politics and tactical changes at madrid.