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Post by juventus101 Fri Apr 20, 2012 5:43 pm

Messi vs Ronaldinho. I personally believe Ronnie was better everything except close range finishing (inside the box), but Ronnie was better at everything else. Creating, Dribbling, Long shots, Set pieces, etc etc. What do you guys think?
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Post by Baraa Fri Apr 20, 2012 6:18 pm

Ronnie for me
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Post by Valkyrja Fri Apr 20, 2012 6:19 pm

Messi's a better dribbler and a better finisher. Ronaldinho is better overall and more talented imo.
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Post by DRK Fri Apr 20, 2012 6:30 pm

Dinho for me
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Post by animal.crackers Fri Apr 20, 2012 8:07 pm

In his prime, Ronaldinho. It's just a shame it lastest so short. He threw it away imo.

Football is about entertainment....and Dinho was magic.

What Messi can do with a ball, Ronaldo can do in his sleep.
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Post by Blue Barrett Fri Apr 20, 2012 8:09 pm

Dinho is untouchable. Period. :coffee:
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Post by stunt Fri Apr 20, 2012 8:25 pm

Messi is so much better than what Ronaldinho ever was.

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Post by billionmillion Fri Apr 20, 2012 11:05 pm

after chelsea game its good chance for haters to create messi vs ronaldinho threads. why you dont do it when messi scores 5 goals. ronaldinho was great player but let him score messi's getafe goal or similar runs then we can discuss. if he is better than messi at everything (lol)

after he left barca won 2 CL, without messi i doubt it would happen. people spend 2 month learning how to stop messi they end up marking messi with 3-4 defenders. they didnt do it against ronaldinho, after ronnie became famous and when they did it he failed. 1 year to be on top is not so hard. if you do it 4 years in a row after defenders know your moves and tricks, then we can say yes he is something else
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Post by Ganso Fri Apr 20, 2012 11:10 pm

depends on how you want to judge them.if you want results,definitely messi,if you want entertainment then dinho
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Post by billionmillion Fri Apr 20, 2012 11:13 pm

Ronaldinho never got past more than 1 player he dribbled 2 players once in his career and once i think 3 players. and thats it. with the ball Messi is far more dangerous player than him. everybody has his opinion and bias so i'm just letting you decide, after watching their compilations - who is more dangerous when they get the ball?

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Post by Valkyrja Fri Apr 20, 2012 11:26 pm

billionmillion wrote:Ronaldinho never got past more than 1 player he dribbled 2 players once in his career and once i think 3 players. and thats it. with the ball Messi is far more dangerous player than him. everybody has his opinion and bias so i'm just letting you decide, after watching their compilations - who is more dangerous when they get the ball?

Ronaldinho


Messi

Messi is too foreseeable. With Ronaldinho, you don't know what he's going to do, he could do 1 or 2 pieces of skills which let you Shocked . Above all, football is about entertainment, and what Ronaldinho did in 3 years, Messi won't do in 30.
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Post by billionmillion Fri Apr 20, 2012 11:53 pm

he was unpredictable at passing, i appreciate it. but at everything else he is not in messi's level.

i'm yet to see ronaldinho do it. can he actually do it? create a goal chance from nothing?



or ronaldinho needed help of 2-3 players to create something like this?


you know why you praise ronaldinho so much. because he got past his only defender with tricks. while messi gets past it without tricks. if you analyze in details you can see that its not simple, messi's touches while getting past that defender is a talent, messi makes it look easy
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Post by zarola Sat Apr 21, 2012 12:19 am

*name here* vs messi

answer : messi
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Post by manlio Sat Apr 21, 2012 6:43 am

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Post by Jack Daniels Sat Apr 21, 2012 7:26 am

Messi by a large margin.
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Post by goonbrain Sat Apr 21, 2012 8:08 am

Ronaldinho was my favourite. It was hard for me to finally to accept that Messi is a better player than the player dinho ever was. That is true. While dinho is one of the most entertaining players with his tricks and all, there is no argument about who is better on the two. Messi has raised his game to a level i dont expect anyone to reach in the coming 10-15 years.
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Post by Valkyrja Sat Apr 21, 2012 9:30 am

goonbrain wrote:Ronaldinho was my favourite. It was hard for me to finally to accept that Messi is a better player than the player dinho ever was. That is true. While dinho is one of the most entertaining players with his tricks and all, there is no argument about who is better on the two. Messi has raised his game to a level i dont expect anyone to reach in the coming 10-15 years.

Why ? Because he is better on paper ? Football is played on grass. We'll have to wait more than 50 years to see the Bernabeu cheer a Barcelona player.
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Post by urbaNRoots Sat Apr 21, 2012 9:37 am

Messi is better in everything bar set-pieces.
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Post by goonbrain Sat Apr 21, 2012 11:18 am

Kizu wrote:
goonbrain wrote:Ronaldinho was my favourite. It was hard for me to finally to accept that Messi is a better player than the player dinho ever was. That is true. While dinho is one of the most entertaining players with his tricks and all, there is no argument about who is better on the two. Messi has raised his game to a level i dont expect anyone to reach in the coming 10-15 years.

Why ? Because he is better on paper ? Football is played on grass. We'll have to wait more than 50 years to see the Bernabeu cheer a Barcelona player.

er...how could messi have got all the stats on paper if he hadn't played on grass?
If you have watched the game, messi can do almost anything Ronnie can do...with a change in style, of course. Also- what ronnie could do in 5 seconds, messi can do in 2 seconds. Messi is way faster when it comes to owning his opponents. He can score when he wants to.
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Post by animal.crackers Sat Apr 21, 2012 11:26 am

goonbrain wrote:
Kizu wrote:
goonbrain wrote:Ronaldinho was my favourite. It was hard for me to finally to accept that Messi is a better player than the player dinho ever was. That is true. While dinho is one of the most entertaining players with his tricks and all, there is no argument about who is better on the two. Messi has raised his game to a level i dont expect anyone to reach in the coming 10-15 years.

Why ? Because he is better on paper ? Football is played on grass. We'll have to wait more than 50 years to see the Bernabeu cheer a Barcelona player.

er...how could messi have got all the stats on paper if he hadn't played on grass?
If you have watched the game, messi can do almost anything Ronnie can do...with a change in style, of course. Also- what ronnie could do in 5 seconds, messi can do in 2 seconds. Messi is way faster when it comes to owning his opponents. He can score when he wants to.
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What a load of shit. Messi can't do a minute fraction of the things Ronaldinho can do with the ball.

I wouldn't even categorise Messi as skillfull. Even little Neymar is more skillfull than him.

But it's effectiveness that matters, not skill.

Messi is only the better goal scorer and dribbling at pace. Ronaldinho was better at practically every category.

I once remember some Messi fanboy saying that because he doesn't use skills that that somehow makes him better just because of this. Laughing
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Post by urbaNRoots Sat Apr 21, 2012 11:46 am

animal.crackers wrote:Ronaldinho was better at practically every category.
Bullshit.
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Post by Jack Russell Sat Apr 21, 2012 11:55 am

billionmillion wrote:Ronaldinho never got past more than 1 player he dribbled 2 players once in his career and once i think 3 players. and thats it.
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Post by animal.crackers Sat Apr 21, 2012 12:06 pm

urbaNRoots wrote:
animal.crackers wrote:Ronaldinho was better at practically every category.
Bullshit.
Elaborate. Besides running at players, what is Messi better at than Ronaldinho (in his prime)?
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Post by goonbrain Sat Apr 21, 2012 12:14 pm

If you have the nuke, do you need anything else?
Messi doesnt need all the trinkets that ronnie had. He has the big gun.
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Post by urbaNRoots Sat Apr 21, 2012 12:24 pm

animal.crackers wrote:
urbaNRoots wrote:
animal.crackers wrote:Ronaldinho was better at practically every category.
Bullshit.
Elaborate. Besides running at players, what is Messi better at than Ronaldinho (in his prime)?

Passing, scoring goals, dribbling past players, pressing etc...
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