Do you believe Illuminati are real?

VivaStPauli wrote:...I am disappoint.

VivaStPauli wrote:That's easy to say when you put forth none of your "research".

@Lady Gaga - Rock Stars have played with the satanism themes since the 50s, it's just a way to gather attention. Do you really think Ozzy Osbourne or Ronnie James Dio worshipped the devil?

Hell, Alice Cooper throws on a white shirt and goes play golf once the concert is done.

zizzle wrote:the greatest form of deception is leading you to believe that you know that you're being decieved ( :vagi: ) and if there's someone benefiting from spreading stories about the devil worshiping elite it's the elite themselves.

It's no secret that todays world is ruled by a few powerful men, call them illuminati or whatever, these people exist, but separating truth from fiction is the challenge here,and as long this elite is precieved by some as an unholly faction the majority will call BS on the whole idea

if you dont see the prison bars you'll have the illusion of being free, similalrly if you keep chasing devil worshipers the true elite will keep controling you in ways you dont understand because you're too busy chasing the illusion that they put out for you in every movie and music video

Se7en wrote:If you type "illuminati" backwards, followed by '.com' in your address bar, you end up at the U.S. government's national security page.

Barrettinator wrote:I'm neutral on this.

RedOranje wrote:So universities are evil? Does that mean that those who attend them are a part of the conspiracy/brainwashed?

Dante wrote:I 100% agree with Viva , with everything he said here.

I don't think Illuminati have been what conspiracy theories make believed about them over the years. In fact , i surely can't tell if they exist in the first place ; nevertheless , they either do or not , it won't change my world.
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Before i begin my pointless post , let me say this first. The word Satan and what it means for christians , if you do a bit of research or just read the bible at some point , means the same person as Lucifer . Lucifer in greek means , Εωσφόρος . That word , describes the one who brings the light , the morning star , the enlightment , hence the illuminate/Illuminati . (isn't it funny christians made that word the example of pure evil and they also believe the Illuminati are satanists )

And frankly , when Viva mentioned that the Bavarian Illuminati were people who held the ideals of the Enlightment movement e.t.c , it didn't surprise me one bit really.

Now , for the guys who combine the Illuminati with Satanism , the symbols , the rockstars-popstars and all that e.t.c

Many think , believe and draw conclusions from a very biased point of view , which makes it well and truly beyond doubt impossible , to find any truth but the one which suits their beliefs.

For example , if someone is a christian , seeing the symbol of Satan during a video clip of Gaga's/x singer or anything he identifies as satanic , being sticked here and there in the music/film industry , it's enough proof for them to believe that not only Illuminati exist ,based on what they think they know about them, but they mean evil too. I wish i could explain here my opinion on this , but i will just spare a few words.

They know you will buy it folks , all the companies and almost every marketing people in the world do , that's why they force them there . It helps a cause sure , but not the cause theists/conspirasists think , it's purely down to generating money by your interest in the end .


I for once rejected conspiracy theories like the Illuminati/Freemasons being satanic groups of men who want to establish da new world order , for two reasons mostly.

1)This so called new world order , has nothing to do with evil , "religion evil" at least..

2)When i realised that religion(s) do the exact same thing they accuse their demons of. If not religion who's been trying to control the world and claim power over people for thousands of years now , then who else

I must admit , i've been into the conspiracy theories subject before , i used to buy this stuff often when i was younger , ignorant and naive. I am still , but at least i know it now, and why. Which frankly , makes me perfectly available to say i've thought over the same stuff from the exact opposite side , at least once .

And before , Illuminati didn't make sense. Now they do .

And from every single person i hear the phrase, "open your eyes" , "wake up" , the more i am convinced they blow them out of their arse and it's purely them that have fallen deeper and deeper into superstition and irrational thinking , almost unaible to explain the world that is unfolding in front of them.

And to finish my pointless post very simply . If Illuminateeh were indeed what conspirasists claim they are , then you can be sure you wouldn't even know about them . And this goes for every conspiracy , because once people know , it stops being a conspiracy really , how about that