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Post by Le Samourai Tue 27 Mar 2012 - 20:18

I'd say tier C.

Still below legends like Zidane, Raul etc in my book.

I wouldn't put Van Basten in tier B either....though he definitely had the potential to get there.

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Post by Zealous Tue 27 Mar 2012 - 20:20

jibers wrote:Scratch top 50. There is a reason Ronaldo has never been called a GOAT by anyone. Because....here's the kicker...he isn't...

The CR fan club has 64 reasons why you are wrong :bow:
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Post by jibers Tue 27 Mar 2012 - 20:22

Zealous wrote:
jibers wrote:Scratch top 50. There is a reason Ronaldo has never been called a GOAT by anyone. Because....here's the kicker...he isn't...

The CR fan club has 64 reasons why you are wrong :bow:

yes...the CR fan club...:facepalm:
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Post by Lord Hades Tue 27 Mar 2012 - 20:34

Top 50 lol, all carlos in the making

meanwhile he ll make top 8 in our all time scorers list
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Post by billionmillion Tue 27 Mar 2012 - 21:49

if winning piccici makes you goat then all piccici winners all goats. i dont think scoring goals can make you goat. not mention that 30% of them are from penalties.
Top-30 maybe
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Post by VanDeezNuts Tue 27 Mar 2012 - 22:32

woat

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Post by The Franchise Tue 27 Mar 2012 - 22:33

Not very high.

An after thought, not even in the conversation.

The best I can give him is 3rd best Portuguese, even that im not super convinced with.
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Post by LeSwagg James Tue 27 Mar 2012 - 22:42

Top 25 probably
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Post by FennecFox7 Tue 27 Mar 2012 - 22:43

BarrileteCosmico wrote:I see GOATs in tiers. Tier A being Maradona, Cruyff, Di Stefano, Beckenbauer, Pele and Messi (unless he royally f*cks up the rest of his career).

Ronaldo belongs in Tier B, with the likes of Platini, Van Basten, Yashin, Scirea and Xavi.

Not exactly a bad place to be :coffee:

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Post by BarrileteCosmico Tue 27 Mar 2012 - 22:44

Le Samourai wrote:I'd say tier C.

Still below legends like Zidane, Raul etc in my book.

I wouldn't put Van Basten in tier B either....though he definitely had the potential to get there.

Yes I am starting to believe he doesn't belong in tier C as well hmm
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Post by FennecFox7 Tue 27 Mar 2012 - 22:46

Yeah, ronaldo is tier Z
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Post by Lord Hades Tue 27 Mar 2012 - 22:47

judging people based on apoel game - good job
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Post by chad4401 Tue 27 Mar 2012 - 23:09

lol this is such non-sense messi can get goat status but ron can't smh, the only player better than ron is messi and ron has the the numbers and titles to be considers in top 10-15 ffs, i swear the guy never gets a fair shake when it comes to his abilities

he even sorted out his playing style after the barca league game lost and is now scoring against them too, and he is now tied with messi (the top 3 goat) for top scorer of the league but he is not good enough for top 20?.... gtfo
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Post by Mr Nick09 Tue 27 Mar 2012 - 23:12

chad4401 wrote:lol this is such non-sense messi can get goat status but ron can't smh, the only player better than ron is messi and ron has the the numbers and titles to be considers in top 10-15 ffs, i swear the guy never gets a fair shake when it comes to his abilities

he even sorted out his playing style after the barca league game lost and is now scoring against them too, and he is now tied with messi (the top 3 goat) for top scorer of the league but he is not good enough for top 20?.... gtfo

Ronaldo is not top 10, definitely not.

Being among the best of all time is not about the goalscoring.
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Post by Le Samourai Tue 27 Mar 2012 - 23:13

BarrileteCosmico wrote:
Le Samourai wrote:I'd say tier C.

Still below legends like Zidane, Raul etc in my book.

I wouldn't put Van Basten in tier B either....though he definitely had the potential to get there.

Yes I am starting to believe he doesn't belong in tier C as well hmm

No I'd say tier C is about right.I mean , he gets credit for the goals, and his carreer has been a pretty productive one.He's at the bottom end of tier c right about now...below people like Schevchenko et al.

He'll play for a long time tho...he'll probably end up in tier B one day, possibly even tier A , although I wouldn't expect the latter.
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Post by Lord Hades Tue 27 Mar 2012 - 23:15

its not about scoring true, but you guys make it out as if scoring is so easy.

calling him one o the best goal scorers of all time and saying he isnt even top 50 players of all time ? Suspect
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Post by Mr Nick09 Tue 27 Mar 2012 - 23:16

I think Ronaldo can make a claim for tier 2 or B or whatever. I think he is in there, he is one of the most prolific and versatile scorer i have ever seen. I rate him higher than the likes of Sheva at least.
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Post by chad4401 Tue 27 Mar 2012 - 23:17

Mr Nick09 wrote:
chad4401 wrote:lol this is such non-sense messi can get goat status but ron can't smh, the only player better than ron is messi and ron has the the numbers and titles to be considers in top 10-15 ffs, i swear the guy never gets a fair shake when it comes to his abilities

he even sorted out his playing style after the barca league game lost and is now scoring against them too, and he is now tied with messi (the top 3 goat) for top scorer of the league but he is not good enough for top 20?.... gtfo

Ronaldo is not top 10, definitely not.

Being among the best of all time is not about the goalscoring.

ron has carried teams before, showed up in lots of big games, has titled and has won ballon d'or too, if it wasn't for messi i could just imagine the circle jerk around cr7
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Post by S32TABLANCA Tue 27 Mar 2012 - 23:18

Well, hes not Tier A that's for sure. I wouldn't put Messi there either, though he will be there by the time he retires 100%. Hell, at this rate he might form a holy trinity with Pele and Maradona FFS.

Ballon d'Ors mean nothing any more after 2010. If he wins something with Portugal, certainly possible, and becomes a Madrid legend, very likely, he would be consiedered best Portugese of all time. Id say the most he can reach is Tier B, thats being optimistic. Which is an amazing achievement for any footballer, its just not GOAT. Which is fine. We dont need him to be any better than he is, we accept him as he is. Heart
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Post by Mr Nick09 Tue 27 Mar 2012 - 23:22

chad4401 wrote:
Mr Nick09 wrote:
chad4401 wrote:lol this is such non-sense messi can get goat status but ron can't smh, the only player better than ron is messi and ron has the the numbers and titles to be considers in top 10-15 ffs, i swear the guy never gets a fair shake when it comes to his abilities

he even sorted out his playing style after the barca league game lost and is now scoring against them too, and he is now tied with messi (the top 3 goat) for top scorer of the league but he is not good enough for top 20?.... gtfo

Ronaldo is not top 10, definitely not.

Being among the best of all time is not about the goalscoring.

ron has carried teams before, showed up in lots of big games, has titled and has won ballon d'or too, if it wasn't for messi i could just imagine the circle jerk around cr7

yes, very good for him, he is an elite player and an elite scorer, but he is not top 10.
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Post by McAgger Tue 27 Mar 2012 - 23:28

BarrileteCosmico wrote:I see GOATs in tiers. Tier A being Maradona, Cruyff, Di Stefano, Beckenbauer, Pele and Messi (unless he royally f*cks up the rest of his career).

Ronaldo belongs in Tier B, with the likes of Platini, Van Basten, Yashin, Scirea and Xavi.

Not exactly a bad place to be :coffee:

Which tier do you place Zidane, Ronaldinho, and O Fenomeno? (Just wondering)
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Post by chad4401 Tue 27 Mar 2012 - 23:30

Mr Nick09 wrote:
chad4401 wrote:
Mr Nick09 wrote:
chad4401 wrote:lol this is such non-sense messi can get goat status but ron can't smh, the only player better than ron is messi and ron has the the numbers and titles to be considers in top 10-15 ffs, i swear the guy never gets a fair shake when it comes to his abilities

he even sorted out his playing style after the barca league game lost and is now scoring against them too, and he is now tied with messi (the top 3 goat) for top scorer of the league but he is not good enough for top 20?.... gtfo

Ronaldo is not top 10, definitely not.

Being among the best of all time is not about the goalscoring.

ron has carried teams before, showed up in lots of big games, has titled and has won ballon d'or too, if it wasn't for messi i could just imagine the circle jerk around cr7

yes, very good for him, he is an elite player and an elite scorer, but he is not top 10.

again if messi wasn't around, the world would be sucking ron off just because of his stats alone, add the fact he has power, good with both feet, great at headers, passing at times can be above average(needs work), he is more than a elite player, he is only second to messi in this era, the gap is not that huge either just different style of plays imo
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Post by The Franchise Tue 27 Mar 2012 - 23:31

Who cares what the world would do. Football didnt start in 05...Cristiano top 10 is outrageous.

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Post by Albiceleste Tue 27 Mar 2012 - 23:32

Ballon D'ors stopped being relevant when Messi started winning them? cool logic.

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Post by Le Samourai Tue 27 Mar 2012 - 23:32

Personally, all 3 are in tier B.
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Post by Lord Hades Tue 27 Mar 2012 - 23:33

please dont use time periods as comparison, , otherwise messi doesnt deserve a place either


however he has a long way for top 1 0 lol .
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