"El Niño Maravilla": Alexis Sanchez

We should start a campaign to only play him on the left or the center - he's near invisible on the right. I don't understand why Pedro plays on the left and Alexis on the right when Pedro can play just as good as the RW.

BarrileteCosmico wrote:We should start a campaign to only play him on the left or the center - he's near invisible on the right. I don't understand why Pedro plays on the left and Alexis on the right when Pedro can play just as good as the RW.

Well against Sevilla he played in the right because Pedro is better at back tracking and had to help against Jesus Navas, who plays in that same side.

Great Leader Sprucenuce wrote:Sanchez would work wonders in a counter attack system, he struggles in tight spaces.

He performed wonderfully for Udinese and Chile he's not a bad player he's just a victim of the style of play and not being able to adapt.


Aguero would not work either he's poor in wide areas, what Barca would need is someone who could dribble,pass,comfortable in tight spaces, explosive,good off the ball movement and good finishing.

A lot to ask for.

I dont agree that he is a victim of the style of play.He has been plain and simple garbage.Fullstop.Nothing to do with the style of play.Its not the system's fault that he cant dribble to save his life.Nor is it the system's fault that he falls down under the slightest pressure.Nor is it the system's fault that he passes back whenever the defender yells boo.
And Aguero would have been a superstar for us.He could easily have played for us on the wing.Its pity we went for the Chilean flop instead of Aguero.Another one of Pep's transfer goof ups.

Let's sell him before his value drops too much . he will be good in a team that plays the counter as many said.

Good player but not really what we need and let's not wait too long

I think it's weird we didn't even consider Aguero given his close friendship with Messi. Masche was signed because of Messi (there were cheaper options for vice-DM out there), Gabi Milito was not sold because of Messi, we're rumored to be after Ustari as the next Pinto because of Messi. I think Messi did publicly back him, but the club didn't seem interested.

Either way, it's not as if Aguero has been lighting the premier on fire.

alexjanosik wrote:

Great Leader Sprucenuce wrote:Sanchez would work wonders in a counter attack system, he struggles in tight spaces.

He performed wonderfully for Udinese and Chile he's not a bad player he's just a victim of the style of play and not being able to adapt.


Aguero would not work either he's poor in wide areas, what Barca would need is someone who could dribble,pass,comfortable in tight spaces, explosive,good off the ball movement and good finishing.

A lot to ask for.

I dont agree that he is a victim of the style of play.He has been plain and simple garbage.Fullstop.Nothing to do with the style of play.Its not the system's fault that he cant dribble to save his life.Nor is it the system's fault that he falls down under the slightest pressure.Nor is it the system's fault that he passes back whenever the defender yells boo.
And Aguero would have been a superstar for us.He could easily have played for us on the wing.Its pity we went for the Chilean flop instead of Aguero.Another one of Pep's transfer goof ups.

I have seen enough in a counter attack system to suggest he's not a pure garbage player he just isn't suited to a possession game.

He needs space to operate in and he does not feel comfortable in tight spaces, as i said i have seen enough for Udinese and Chile to suggest he's not a bad player just one that doesn't fit the style of play.

As for Aguero i have seen nothing in his career which suggests he can play a Villa or Pedro role,he's a CF plain and simple and while Messi is here he can't play there i'm not sure where this mass amount of confidence comes from that he can play wide when ever he has done it in the past he looks poor in comparison.

His best game so far this season !!
He always seems to play better in away games !!!

good game... hope he keeps improving.
I would really like to see him try getting past his man sometimes... even if he is going to loose some balls

I think soem fo you guys were right. As soon as he plays on left, he is a different player. And i liked the yellow the referee gave to Pedro, i think it had influence on him not to dive every time he had two players coming at him.

Yea he clearly plays so much better on the left. Still though, he needs more confidence in his abilities. I hope it comes this season. I'm not writing him off though

eelir wrote:I think soem fo you guys were right. As soon as he plays on left, he is a different player. And i liked the yellow the referee gave to Pedro, i think it had influence on him not to dive every time he had two players coming at him.

That yellow card on Pedro was quite shameful to be honest.

He nutmegs the defender who doesn't touch the ball at all, and the defender is Pedro's way, so they clash. There is hence clear contact. I'm not saying it's a penalty, because with that amount of contact no ref would whistle a penalty (although in the midfield most of them would whistle a foul), but obviously is not a yellow card for faking, and Pedro doesn't even protest when he goes to the ground.

Pathetic referee.

alexjanosik wrote:I dont agree that he is a victim of the style of play.He has been plain and simple garbage.Fullstop.Nothing to do with the style of play.Its not the system's fault that he cant dribble to save his life.Nor is it the system's fault that he falls down under the slightest pressure.Nor is it the system's fault that he passes back whenever the defender yells boo.
And Aguero would have been a superstar for us.He could easily have played for us on the wing.Its pity we went for the Chilean flop instead of Aguero.Another one of Pep's transfer goof ups.

Agüero would have been a superstar? Let's not base analysis on what shoulda/woulda/coulda happened. We'll never know how good he'd be in Barcelona. For all I know, Messi and Kun weren't compatible in the national team and Sabella has learned to match Messi with dí Maria and Pipita instead.

I agree the diving and pass backs have been over the top but if he has been poor it is not because he's a bad player but because he has lost his confidence due to difficulty of adapting to a completely different system. Only someone with a memory of 9 months would say that he's garbage. I've been lucky to have watched him in Chile and Udinese and I knew what he was capable of even though I wouldn't have signed him for Barça due to the exact same reason Pardew mentioned.

Lol when were Aguero and Messi incompatible on the nt? They always had a great connection.

They do a couple of fantastic one-twos every now and then. So does Alexis. Honestly, name a couple of matches where we played Kun with Messi and we won. I can name a dozen where we won with Pipa and dí Maria partnering Messi in attack.

I really don't buy the Agüero would have been in a hit in Barça. Not saying he wouldn't, but guess we'll never know.

I would take Di Maria over Pipita and Aguero...

I think Aguero has a chance of doing well, but can't be sure... Always thought Higuain might fit. He played on the wing in his early days and I think he could make a Villa like adaption, making diagonal runs in off the wing for Messi.

Are you guys still really defending Alexis???I agree that he doesnt suit the system but even then he needs to atleast look good like Ibra did although he didnt suit the system at ALL,but Sanchez has been utter garbage.

Well i would not say utter garbage. He looked decent on the left, and center. He was utter garbage on the right. However, the most annoying thing about him is the diving. As soon as he is shut by defenders he dives miserably. Most people say he has a upper body strength, but he does not use it and consequently looks like a p.u.ss.y

danyjr wrote:They do a couple of fantastic one-twos every now and then. So does Alexis. Honestly, name a couple of matches where we played Kun with Messi and we won. I can name a dozen where we won with Pipa and dí Maria partnering Messi in attack.

Ridiculous statement. Recent games where Kun played and we won:
Argentina - Ecuador (scored the opener)
Colombia - Argentina (he scored the winner after coming on as a sub in the last 10 minutes)
Venezuela - Argentina (friendly)
Argentina - Switzerland
Brazil - Argentina (got an assist, although Pipa and Dima also played this game)

Anyways that hardly proves anything, but Messi and Aguero have always had a telepathic relationship on the pitch. I'm not sure if they would succeed at Barca, but with Argentina when we've played with only two forwards and those were Messi-Aguero they showed great compatibility. Not taking anything away from Pipita, but as a seleccion fan I'd much rather see Messi partner Aguero than him.

EDIT: wrong thread!

vivabarca38 wrote:Are you guys still really defending Alexis???I agree that he doesnt suit the system but even then he needs to atleast look good like Ibra did although he didnt suit the system at ALL,but Sanchez has been utter garbage.

Actually I thought that Ibra was way worse. He would score a goal and then be invicible for the rest of the game. The only game where he actually had a great overall performance was against Espanyol. Atleast Sanchez has had some good games..

harhar11 wrote:

vivabarca38 wrote:Are you guys still really defending Alexis???I agree that he doesnt suit the system but even then he needs to atleast look good like Ibra did although he didnt suit the system at ALL,but Sanchez has been utter garbage.

Actually I thought that Ibra was way worse. He would score a goal and then be invicible for the rest of the game. The only game where he actually had a great overall performance was against Espanyol. Atleast Sanchez has had some good games..

Ehm..Messi is doing the same this season .

vivabarca38 wrote:

harhar11 wrote:

vivabarca38 wrote:Are you guys still really defending Alexis???I agree that he doesnt suit the system but even then he needs to atleast look good like Ibra did although he didnt suit the system at ALL,but Sanchez has been utter garbage.

Actually I thought that Ibra was way worse. He would score a goal and then be invicible for the rest of the game. The only game where he actually had a great overall performance was against Espanyol. Atleast Sanchez has had some good games..

Ehm..Messi is doing the same this season .

Most goals and assists in team how is he being invisible

Donuts wrote:

vivabarca38 wrote:

harhar11 wrote:

vivabarca38 wrote:Are you guys still really defending Alexis???I agree that he doesnt suit the system but even then he needs to atleast look good like Ibra did although he didnt suit the system at ALL,but Sanchez has been utter garbage.

Actually I thought that Ibra was way worse. He would score a goal and then be invicible for the rest of the game. The only game where he actually had a great overall performance was against Espanyol. Atleast Sanchez has had some good games..

Ehm..Messi is doing the same this season .

Most goals and assists in team how is he being invisible

Apart from his goalscoring, he actually has been pretty underwhelming this season. He wasnt even as creative as he usually does(he actually got his first assist against Sevilla IIRC). But his form does seems to be improving...

harhar11 wrote:

Donuts wrote:

vivabarca38 wrote:

harhar11 wrote:

vivabarca38 wrote:Are you guys still really defending Alexis???I agree that he doesnt suit the system but even then he needs to atleast look good like Ibra did although he didnt suit the system at ALL,but Sanchez has been utter garbage.

Actually I thought that Ibra was way worse. He would score a goal and then be invicible for the rest of the game. The only game where he actually had a great overall performance was against Espanyol. Atleast Sanchez has had some good games..

Ehm..Messi is doing the same this season .

Most goals and assists in team how is he being invisible

Apart from his goalscoring, he actually has been pretty underwhelming this season. He wasnt even as creative as he usually does(he actually got his first assist against Sevilla IIRC). But his form does seems to be improving...

So apart from doing that thing that wins games he's invisible.. yeah okay so the rest of the team must be ghosts if that's the case.

danyjr wrote:

alexjanosik wrote:I dont agree that he is a victim of the style of play.He has been plain and simple garbage.Fullstop.Nothing to do with the style of play.Its not the system's fault that he cant dribble to save his life.Nor is it the system's fault that he falls down under the slightest pressure.Nor is it the system's fault that he passes back whenever the defender yells boo.
And Aguero would have been a superstar for us.He could easily have played for us on the wing.Its pity we went for the Chilean flop instead of Aguero.Another one of Pep's transfer goof ups.

Agüero would have been a superstar? Let's not base analysis on what shoulda/woulda/coulda happened. We'll never know how good he'd be in Barcelona. For all I know, Messi and Kun weren't compatible in the national team and Sabella has learned to match Messi with dí Maria and Pipita instead.

I agree the diving and pass backs have been over the top but if he has been poor it is not because he's a bad player but because he has lost his confidence due to difficulty of adapting to a completely different system. Only someone with a memory of 9 months would say that he's garbage. I've been lucky to have watched him in Chile and Udinese and I knew what he was capable of even though I wouldn't have signed him for Barça due to the exact same reason Pardew mentioned.

Once more with the system argument.Again I just dont see how his complete inability to dribble is a fault of the system.Or him constantly passing back.Or him falling down even at the slightest contact.How is that a fault of the system?
The system argument has kinda become a fashionable excuse with anything related to Barca.
Xavi,Iniesta and Messi are GOATS because of the system.Alexis is garbage because of the system.
Its a ridiculous and stupid excuse brought up by people trying to be cool and knowledgeable.99% of the time,such guys know absolutely zilch about our system.
On Alexis,I never claimed to watch him at Udinese.I have based my opinion of him solely from his performances for us.And based on my observations he has been garbage.In fact calling him garbage might be giving him the benefit of the doubt.
On Aguero,you have not given a single concrete reason as to why he wont be a success for us.The way I see it,he has all the tools in abundance and more.NTM he is ten times the player Alexis is.

I make my opinion based on facts, as opposed to you. I already mentioned the pass backs and diving has been over the top. The rest however, is pure speculation by you. In fact I doubt if you ever watched any of Chile matches, otherwise you'd know what a gem he is.

Oh, and people trying to be cool and knowledgeable? Speak for yourself.