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Post by Lord Hades Wed Feb 15, 2012 10:23 pm

people already knew that milan's pitch would be like this lol

there were videos all round the net about the state of milan's pitch and lets face it these are the things which give a team advantage at home, you have to capitalise on the advantages they give you and if youre the away team minimise those perks gained by the home team.

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Post by fatman123 Wed Feb 15, 2012 10:23 pm

can i ask, what was the issue with the pitch?
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Post by aleumdance Wed Feb 15, 2012 10:25 pm

fatman123 wrote:can i ask, what was the issue with the pitch?

nothign

Arsenal have played on worse pitches in england

but Wenger Aplogist are master excuse makers
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Post by Lex Wed Feb 15, 2012 10:26 pm

aleumdance wrote:tactics: press, hit erm on counter..rinse and repeat
Right.............and how would we do that when the wings were covered in giant craters?

Coquelin at LB? Why, when there's a fully fit Gibbs at your disposal? Coquelin is suddenly a better LB than Gibbs?

Walcott and Ox? Why? Both of their greatest assets are speed (and control in the Ox's case) Again, what good is that going to do when the wings are rendered unplayable?

It's so easy to sit in your Laz-E boy and make up dreamy scenarios of how things should have gone down, it's another thing to actually be there and be put under pressure
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Post by RealGunner Wed Feb 15, 2012 10:26 pm

lex, go to sleep man.
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Post by EL Patron Wed Feb 15, 2012 10:27 pm

aleumdance wrote:
fatman123 wrote:can i ask, what was the issue with the pitch?

nothign

Arsenal have played on worse pitches in england

but Wenger Aplogist are master excuse makers

I agree with that...can't use the pitch as an excuse but Wenger will :vagi:
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Post by Lex Wed Feb 15, 2012 10:27 pm

Lord Hades wrote: people already knew that milan's pitch would be like this lol
Really? Even Milan fans seemed surprised on hearing the news
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Post by Patrick Bateman Wed Feb 15, 2012 10:27 pm

62 isn't that old imo :coffee:
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Post by The Franchise Wed Feb 15, 2012 10:28 pm

izzy wrote:
The Franchise wrote:It wasnt Rambo's fault, he was playing in an advanced position. Song and Arteta just couldnt get the ball to him enough because Milan outnumbered them. They protect the center too well.

I feel Milans midfield was there to be got at. Arsenal however focused soley on wing-play and pace and whenever the ball came into the midfield they were outnumbered. Milans midfiled was never pressured and allowed easy distribution of the ball to Ibra to conduct the whole game.

Well, I agree you could of pressed them. I think that was a mistake.

But in terms of your attack, the wings where the best place to attack. You cant beat Milan through the center once they get back, Barca couldnt. They have a back 4 who get narrow and 3 men protecting. The middle really is hard to get through.

Also, on the wings you have 2 v 1. So it made some sense.
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Post by aleumdance Wed Feb 15, 2012 10:28 pm

dude....did you ever play TEAM FOOTIE at any point in ur life?

Gibbs is clearly NOT FIT ENOUGH.. Coquelin has played but LB and RB and looked good in it so what stopping him?

Ox is good with cutting in on the right flank, how good was ur rosicky today?

PLS.. TACTICS MATE, TACTICS..

that why we say Wengie can't do erm
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Post by DuringTheWar Wed Feb 15, 2012 10:29 pm

The wings were not unplayable. The pitch was poor in those areas but hardly unplayable
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Post by cyberman Wed Feb 15, 2012 10:30 pm

[quote="Lex"][quote="Lord Hades"] people already knew that milan's pitch would be like this lol[/quote]Really? Even Milan fans seemed surprised on hearing the news[/quote]
inter struggled on the exact same pitch a few days ago, it was no surprise
no excuses, milan raped you tonight

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Post by Swanhends Wed Feb 15, 2012 10:30 pm

Redknapp is older than Wenger and he deceived Milan last year hmm
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Post by fatman123 Wed Feb 15, 2012 10:31 pm

BhritanniaBhlue wrote:Redknapp is older than Wenger and he deceived Milan last year hmm

Wenger is too young :coffee:
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Post by aleumdance Wed Feb 15, 2012 10:32 pm

Diego Armando Maradona wrote:The wings were not unplayable. The pitch was poor in those areas but hardly unplayable

Arsenal have [played at Sunderland and Wigan who have worrse pitches this season and had no problems

the Pitch talk is major BS
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Post by EL Patron Wed Feb 15, 2012 10:32 pm

BhritanniaBhlue wrote:Redknapp is older than Wenger and he deceived Milan last year hmm

has only won one fa cup during his coaching career :vagi:
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Post by Mr Nick09 Wed Feb 15, 2012 10:33 pm

BhritanniaBhlue wrote:Redknapp is older than Wenger and he deceived Milan last year hmm

Arry is a special man indeed
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Post by Zealous Wed Feb 15, 2012 10:33 pm

Wenger has weaknesses but in the right atmosphere they don't stand out.

Considering all the work he has to do off the pitch one can empathise with him in that regard.
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Post by Swanhends Wed Feb 15, 2012 10:34 pm

gunnerlistick wrote:
BhritanniaBhlue wrote:Redknapp is older than Wenger and he deceived Milan last year hmm

has only won one fa cup during his coaching career :vagi:

Now I can't decide whether Wenger is too old or too young :bow: :bow: :bow:
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Post by Lord Hades Wed Feb 15, 2012 10:35 pm

Lex wrote:
Lord Hades wrote: people already knew that milan's pitch would be like this lol
Really? Even Milan fans seemed surprised on hearing the news

no man, i can assure you, there were videos a bout milan's pitch hourse before the match in a few of the football groups on facebook
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Post by Zealous Wed Feb 15, 2012 10:38 pm

BhritanniaBhlue wrote:Redknapp is older than Wenger and he deceived Milan last year hmm

Wenger is too young? hmm
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Post by Guest Wed Feb 15, 2012 10:38 pm

The Franchise wrote:I have to say, I dont think the pitch was much of a factor.

If the ball went out wide and it got stuck up, then I would buy that theory. But Arsenal didnt even get the time to get the ball out wide.

When the got the ball, they were quite direct with the passing and tried to get it to RVP quite early. Thiago Silva was excellent at reading and getting in front of him for that.

Maybe I could be convinced otherwise, but I didnt really see the pitch being a factor.


I think the pitch got to the Arsenal players (mentally) and keep in mind Milan had to play on the same pitch and they seemed to move the ball down the flanks just fine. Complain about the pitch all you want, but Milan is not the first team (and won't be the last) to alter their pitch according to what team they are set to play; that's why it's called home-field advantage. Arsenal just looked lethargic and Milan's defense (especially Silva) played a great game. When Milan lost the ball they looked to press and forced Arsenal into some silly turnovers, are we going to blame the pitch for that as well. I've definitely lost some respect for certain Arsenal supporters after some of the whining I just read. Milan played a brilliant game and the ball movement impressed me; Ibra and Boateng have a great chemistry and Robinho has great passing to go along with his wonderful decision making. I'm not sure where this Milan has been all season.

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Post by Lord Hades Wed Feb 15, 2012 10:41 pm

in these dark times, like guardiola showed barca players gladiator video to inspire them

wenger shouldve shown arsenal this


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nqzmFgVINVM

or this

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y-6onZNIMfg&feature=related



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Post by aleumdance Wed Feb 15, 2012 10:41 pm

THC 10 wrote:
The Franchise wrote:I have to say, I dont think the pitch was much of a factor.

If the ball went out wide and it got stuck up, then I would buy that theory. But Arsenal didnt even get the time to get the ball out wide.

When the got the ball, they were quite direct with the passing and tried to get it to RVP quite early. Thiago Silva was excellent at reading and getting in front of him for that.

Maybe I could be convinced otherwise, but I didnt really see the pitch being a factor.


I think the pitch got to the Arsenal players (mentally) and keep in mind Milan had to play on the same pitch and they seemed to move the ball down the flanks just fine. Complain about the pitch all you want, but Milan is not the first team (and won't be the last) to alter their pitch according to what team they are set to play; that's why it's called home-field advantage. Arsenal just looked lethargic and Milan's defense (especially Silva) played a great game. When Milan lost the ball they looked to press and forced Arsenal into some silly turnovers, are we going to blame the pitch for that as well. I've definitely lost some respect for certain Arsenal supporters after some of the whining I just read. Milan played a brilliant game and the ball movement impressed me; Ibra and Boateng have a great chemistry and Robinho has great passing to go along with his wonderful decision making. I'm not sure where this Milan has been all season.

Pls don't use lex to Generalize Gooners

we gooners have said we played on worse pitches in the EPL

those talking about the pitch would be singing in Arsene we trust if we o 20 years with no trophy
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Post by The Franchise Wed Feb 15, 2012 10:44 pm

Lord Hades wrote:in these dark times, like guardiola showed barca players gladiator video to inspire them

wenger shouldve shown arsenal this


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nqzmFgVINVM

or this

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y-6onZNIMfg&feature=related


The video was before the CL final, hardly tough times.
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Post by Zealous Wed Feb 15, 2012 10:47 pm

Substitute tough with significant/crucial Very Happy

BTW I think motivational videos should be for fans only. Things like these are not more beneficial than making the players understand their roles on the pitch in big games.


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