Although Albiol didn't get the first yellow, he still made a few challenges which could of got him 2 yellow cards.

Tello made Ramos look alright for a spell near the end but he was poor. Albiol out performed him FFS.

I still rate him as one of the best though.

Haha not his best game considering the pen

Bump.

At fault for both goals, but his goal should've stood as he was onside.

Almost cost us the game tbh.

One game doesn't change the fact that he's one of the best CB's in the World. Guys like Thiago Silva, Kompany etc make mistakes, but they don't ever seem to be criticised.

Never seen Thiago Silva make this many glaring, poor errors. Not to mention, errors aside he is one a different level entirely anyway.

Kompany yes, but everyone been criticising him this season.

Yohan Modric wrote:One game doesn't change the fact that he's one of the best CB's in the World. Guys like Thiago Silva, Kompany etc make mistakes, but they don't ever seem to be criticised.

Thats because Thiago does a mistake every 3 months while Ramos and Pepe do it almost in a weekly basis.Madrid fans need to stop overrating these 2

should go back to RB permanently so varane can be a regular starter

that way the back four will be more balanced considering varane's maturity,his cautius style and his height
plus ramos will improve the right wing's attacking flare, rotating with arbeloa depending on the approach of the game

if gives this back four continuity it will be more effective

Ganso wrote:

Yohan Modric wrote:One game doesn't change the fact that he's one of the best CB's in the World. Guys like Thiago Silva, Kompany etc make mistakes, but they don't ever seem to be criticised.

Thats because Thiago does a mistake every 3 months while Ramos and Pepe do it almost in a weekly basis.Madrid fans need to stop overrating these 2

Be my guest and point out the plethora of mistakes before this weekend. You would probably need to go back to the Barca game. Or perhaps the Dortmund away where he was playing right back.

It's not like he put in a magnificent performance against Atletico last week either. I mean that was merely my imagination.

While you're at it point out the Madrid fans overrating him because they sure as hell are not on this site.

Le Samourai wrote:

Ganso wrote:

Yohan Modric wrote:One game doesn't change the fact that he's one of the best CB's in the World. Guys like Thiago Silva, Kompany etc make mistakes, but they don't ever seem to be criticised.

Thats because Thiago does a mistake every 3 months while Ramos and Pepe do it almost in a weekly basis.Madrid fans need to stop overrating these 2

Be my guest and point out the plethora of mistakes before this weekend. You would probably need to go back to the Barca game. Or perhaps the Dortmund away where he was playing right back.

It's not like he put in a magnificent performance against Atletico last week either. I mean that was merely my imagination.

While you're at it point out the Madrid fans overrating him because they sure as hell are not on this site.

Im not going to point out all the mistakes he has made, do you think I make list while im watching football games or something?If you want me to mention a average game he had recently,then Betis.

when I said overrated,I meant the Pepe-Ramos duo.Go visit the RB section if you think Madrid fans dont overrate their players

He had a average game...yet he was one of three players on our side that showed up for the game.

Seems completely accurate.

And you can point to the right back section but it's pretty clear than every fan base overrates their players not simply on this site but in general. What's worse is that's not the case with Ramos'.I'm usually the one defending him in threads such as this.

Others get caught up in hype when he puts in a clutch performance for Espana or does something else both relevant and good.

Friend was trying to tell me it was Casillas fault for both goals

in their second one he could have gone first into the ball so he merely was at fault for me
dont remember the first one

One of the worst individual performances of all time. Scrub

Performance? ? he carried that excuse of a backline on his own

Shortlisted to win the golden ball......scrub

Gil wrote:One of the worst individual performances of all time. Scrub

No. Bar the penalty the whole Spanish back line was equally at fault. He wasn't at fault for any of the three goals. At least Ramos contributed in attack.

Pairing him and Pique is just a recipe for disaster, VDB should shift him back to right back and maybe try Javi Martinez at centre half.

Entire Spanish defence was a joke, but of ALL the talent in that f*cking side, why let Ramos take the penalty????

He was Spain's best defender ... when you play alongside bad players like Alba, Pique and Arbeloa you can't do much

Lex wrote:Entire Spanish defence was a joke, but of ALL the talent in that f*cking side, why let Ramos take the penalty????

he took the freekicks as well

por sod you can't blame him for wanting to take things Ronaldo monopolizes at his club

Spain badly miss Puyol. Pique is like a headless chicken without his leadership and instructions

Lex wrote:Spain badly miss Puyol. Pique is like a headless chicken without his leadership and instructions

poor mans luiz

Single out Ramos,but forget Arbeloa. GL.  

No-one forgot Arbeloa. It's just that he's too insignificant to even mention