crazzyblanco wrote:common man!! you dont bench your best cb in one of the most crucial matches of the season.

ColoJunior wrote:Only Spainards are making a big deal about tbh since it's one of their own and mourinho is Portuguese it's perfect for selling headlines.

Mou did take a risk and the move did surprise me but nonetheless we saw the potential Varane has once again in a very important match.

Varane isn't starting material yet but one for the future hands down. Slowly but surely.

Imagine a top notch pepe - Varane partnership with Ramos at RB again for certain matches.

Se7en wrote:I don't think Ramos would start for us at CB if he didn't have political protection. Mourinho probably benched him becouse we couldn't afford a loss and he is crap.

Varane deserves to start over Ramos. The pairing of Ramos-Pepe is just horrible and Ramos should return to RB and stop being so crap.

sportsczy wrote:Pepe-Ramos is not and will never be a very good pairing. They're both good to great individually... but they both have the same style and the same weaknesses. As such, they will always be error prone.

And Ramos is not better than Pepe. Pepe is by far better. Ramos is learning the position and just reacts right now.... there are a lot of tactical things that he just doesn't see yet. He's not the smartest, so i think it'll take a long while for him to grasp the finer points of being a CB, if ever.

Because he's Spanish and plays for Madrid, he gets vastly overrated. He's lucky that he's well protected in both club and country.

He reminds me a lot of Badstuber... except that he's a lot more athletic so he can recover from mistakes much better. Because everyone pumps up his ego so much, he's not improving. I think that's the problem that Mou has with him.

Le Samourai wrote:Anyone else wish to declare their opinion that Ramos is garbage?

So far I have

1. Highburied
2. Gil
3. Se7en
4. Sportczy.

Please , feel free voice your opinions.

Se7en wrote:

Le Samourai wrote:Anyone else wish to declare their opinion that Ramos is garbage?

So far I have

1. Highburied
2. Gil
3. Se7en
4. Sportczy.
5. Biggest asshole ever to coach Real Madrid bar none.

Please , feel free voice your opinions.

Please add Mourinho to the list. I'm pretty sure he thinks he is crap.

Yohan Modric wrote:Pepe and Ramos are kinda similar, but overall I think Ramos is definitely better with the ball and picking out a pass etc. Pepe is the stopper while Ramos is the ball playing CB.

In terms of looking at CB's, I think it's important to look at everything that a CB does, not just the pure defending.