Re: How highly do you rate Sergio Ramos?

by EarlyPrototype Tue Jan 31, 2012 10:25 pm

highburied wrote:I said and I say it again...

Current Madrid defenders are really good and they can do the job everywhere but versus Barcelona. Which is not good enough for Real Madrid.

He was good vs Barca last game.

by EarlyPrototype Tue Jan 31, 2012 10:25 pm

jibers wrote:Decent Cb. Nothing More.

Have you seen him play?

Would walk into the United team. :dance:

by Mr Nick09 Tue Jan 31, 2012 10:26 pm

highburied wrote:I said and I say it again...

Current Madrid defenders are really good and they can do the job everywhere but versus Barcelona. Which is not good enough for Real Madrid.

To be fair, Ferdinand-Vidic was called the best CB pair in Europe and they got mugged.

by Ganso Tue Jan 31, 2012 10:33 pm

Mr Nick09 wrote:
highburied wrote:I said and I say it again...

Current Madrid defenders are really good and they can do the job everywhere but versus Barcelona. Which is not good enough for Real Madrid.

To be fair, Ferdinand-Vidic was called the best CB pair in Europe and they got mugged.

meh,not really.out of the 3-1 2 of the barca goals were longshots

(not saying that they are the best CB duo in Europe)

by Great Leader Sprucenuce Tue Jan 31, 2012 10:52 pm

EarlyPrototype wrote:
highburied wrote:I said and I say it again...

Current Madrid defenders are really good and they can do the job everywhere but versus Barcelona. Which is not good enough for Real Madrid.

He was good vs Barca last game.

He has'nt been good in any of the Clasico's( was at fault for first goal in 3-1), was'nt at fault for anything in 2-1 but was'nt great either and in 2-2 he just watch Messi Waltz through him and the back 4 for the first goal.....

He is very good CB in small games, but he consistently makes mistakes in big games was at fault for atleast one goal against Valencia aswell......

I agree with what Sushi said he's a good CB probably top 10 but his positional sense is very meh indeed.

I have noticed Madrid fans like to ignore his mistakes tho Smile

by Mr Nick09 Tue Jan 31, 2012 10:54 pm

Great Leader Sprucenuce wrote:
EarlyPrototype wrote:
highburied wrote:I said and I say it again...

Current Madrid defenders are really good and they can do the job everywhere but versus Barcelona. Which is not good enough for Real Madrid.

He was good vs Barca last game.

He has'nt been good in any of the Clasico's( was at fault for first goal in 3-1), was'nt at fault for anything in 2-1 but was'nt great either and in 2-2 he just watch Messi Waltz through him and the back 4 for the first goal.....

He is very good CB in small games, but he consistently makes mistakes in big games was at fault for atleast one goal against Valencia aswell......

I agree with what Sushi said he's a good CB probably top 10 but his positional sense is very meh indeed.

I have noticed Madrid fans like to ignore his mistakes tho

To be fair, i dont think he is perfect, but i am more interested by the margin of progression. This is his first full season at CB since he came to madrid. Unlike many, he didnt spend his life playing CB and perfecting it. He is playing catch up, and he is doing an amazing job.

by Great Leader Sprucenuce Tue Jan 31, 2012 11:01 pm

Fair enough Nick as far as progression goes you are right to be pleased.....

I just dont like see certain players hyped and then thier mistakes ignored(Ramos) and certain players underappreciated and then scapegoated for every mistake they make(Di Maria)....

by Zealous Tue Jan 31, 2012 11:03 pm

by Guest Tue Jan 31, 2012 11:09 pm

Zealous wrote:

bow the frack down

by Zealous Tue Jan 31, 2012 11:15 pm

haha even Cris is getting in on the action. Love it eco smile

by S32TABLANCA Tue Jan 31, 2012 11:24 pm

Very high. Top 3-5 CB in the world ATM. I mean, this season he is easily in our Top 3 best players.

by Dutti Tue Jan 31, 2012 11:25 pm

"0.1 dribbled by others per game, 2 total"

This means being "dribbled" whatever that means for a total of 2 times in 20 games.

Sounds like nonsense.

by Guest Tue Jan 31, 2012 11:29 pm

Dutti wrote:"0.1 dribbled by others per game, 2 total"

This means being "dribbled" whatever that means for a total of 2 times in 20 games.

Sounds like nonsense.

http://www.whoscored.com/Players/9909

by Dutti Tue Jan 31, 2012 11:31 pm

I'm sceptical toward stats because you just never know who compiled it.

Besides, different people have different opinion on what counts as being "dribbled".

by Zealous Tue Jan 31, 2012 11:32 pm

This number doesn't match my biases therefore it is clearly false.

by che Tue Jan 31, 2012 11:34 pm

central defenders rarely get dribbled, i'd hazard a guess that most have less than 1 per game

edit: just checked whoscored, victor ruiz is dribbled 0.3 times per game :lucas:

doesn't mean shit...

by the xcx Tue Jan 31, 2012 11:39 pm

Crimson wrote:
Zealous wrote:

bow the frack down

by Zealous Tue Jan 31, 2012 11:42 pm

che wrote:central defenders rarely get dribbled, i'd hazard a guess that most have less than 1 per game

edit: just checked whoscored, victor ruiz is dribbled 0.3 times per game :lucas:

doesn't mean shit...

Ramos has played games at RB this year too.

by Sushi Master Tue Jan 31, 2012 11:43 pm

I get Ramos is a club icon and all, but I'd rather hype Varane.

Now that kid has serious potential.

by Zealous Tue Jan 31, 2012 11:50 pm

Varane is pretty good. Bags of potential there :bow:

by S32TABLANCA Tue Jan 31, 2012 11:51 pm

Ramos-Varane will be the best CB partnership of all time :bow:

by Highburied Tue Jan 31, 2012 11:51 pm

Strikers dont have to dribble someone who is caught out of position.

:lucas:

by CBarca Tue Jan 31, 2012 11:56 pm

He's pretty good. That's all I have to say about that, to be honest.

by Le Samourai Wed Feb 01, 2012 12:11 am

:lucas:

I will knock him for his positioning and his ball watching on deliveries......that's about it.

I can see guys like Rudd,Inzaghi and Chicharito giving him absolute hell.Thank god those guys are rare.(Soldado was great though)

Internationally he was by some distance Spain's best defender at the world cup
so in that regard I dunno....even though I don't like him at all at RB just though I'd throw it out there.

I rate him extremely highly as highly as I rate any defender in the world but of course there are elements of personal bias involved.

@Mole......1st goal at the Nou Camp was all Arbeloa........... :vagi:

by The Madrid One Wed Feb 01, 2012 1:52 am

Best Cb In Spain This year.

Top 5 in The world.

by Guest Wed Feb 01, 2012 2:04 am

Sergio Ramos is 25 and already played 339 games in La Liga and notched up 82 caps for Spain

25 and already played 421 official games....

Must be doing something right

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