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Post by El Chelsea Fuerte Tue Jan 31, 2012 4:16 am

ynwa wrote:
Adit wrote:
ynwa wrote:

And in English?
Problem kid?

First of all "Chelsea got jack pot" doesn't make sense.

Secondly, kid? Really? Do you see everyone on this forum as a kid? 'Cause that's a bit......

Honestly just don't mind him.

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Post by Adit Tue Jan 31, 2012 9:51 am

ynwa wrote:
Adit wrote:
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And in English?
Problem kid?

First of all "Chelsea got jack pot" doesn't make sense.

Secondly, kid? Really? Do you see everyone on this forum as a kid? 'Cause that's a bit......

I called you kid because you are kid.Matured men will not come in a internet football forum to make fun of other people's English skills..
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Post by Red Alert Wed Feb 01, 2012 6:16 am

In that case, I am kid.
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Post by urbaNRoots Fri May 04, 2012 11:16 am

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According to L'Equipe, Eden Hazard isn't even considering Arsenal, Chelsea or Tottenham — His destination will be City or United.
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Post by Kick Fri May 04, 2012 11:21 am

glory hunter.

we need him more than either Manchester clubs.
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Post by guest7 Fri May 04, 2012 11:30 am

Yeah being ambitious and wanting to join one of the most historically respected and succesful clubs is being a glory hunter (Man U)

It's called being ambitous

City is for the sake of money tho
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Post by Great Leader Sprucenuce Fri May 04, 2012 11:32 am

Se7en wrote:Yeah being ambitious and wanting to join one of the most historically respected and succesful clubs is being a glory hunter (Man U)

It's called being ambitous

City is for the sake of money tho

Not no more it is'nt....... well its a factor but its not because of money...... it's mainly because they are big players when it comes to competing for top honours.....

I love when people get butthurt when a player wants to join someone else Laughing
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Post by guest7 Fri May 04, 2012 11:34 am

Great Leader Sprucenuce wrote:
Se7en wrote:Yeah being ambitious and wanting to join one of the most historically respected and succesful clubs is being a glory hunter (Man U)

It's called being ambitous

City is for the sake of money tho

Not no more it is'nt....... well its a factor but its not because of money...... it's mainly because they are big players when it comes to competing for top honours.....

I love when people get butthurt when a player wants to join someone else Laughing

So doesn't Man U offer it? Also Man U is much more stable, they've a great coach who is always competing while City has choked in Europe and might do it next season.

I'm just saying, if it's between Man U and City atm you pick City only for the money
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Post by Kick Fri May 04, 2012 11:34 am

actually, he is a glory hunter for wanting either. the way he comes across to me is someone who doesn't care where he goes, as long as he gets a fat paycheck. otherwise he would have decided by now.

if he wanted a rich history he would be deciding between liverpool and united.
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Post by urbaNRoots Fri May 04, 2012 11:34 am

Se7en wrote:Yeah being ambitious and wanting to join one of the most historically respected and succesful clubs is being a glory hunter (Man U)

It's called being ambitous

City is for the sake of money tho

When Fabregas joined Barcelona he was called a gloryhunter. Not ambitious.
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Post by guest7 Fri May 04, 2012 11:37 am

urbaNRoots wrote:
Se7en wrote:Yeah being ambitious and wanting to join one of the most historically respected and succesful clubs is being a glory hunter (Man U)

It's called being ambitous

City is for the sake of money tho

When Fabregas joined Barcelona he was called a gloryhunter. Not ambitious.

There is a difference from moving from a top club to another top club and moving from a small club to a top club.

Besides whoever did that is a idiot of course he is being ambitious and it's also about moving back to his old club
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Post by Art Morte Fri May 04, 2012 11:39 am

Surely Manc United have to sell one of Nani, Valencia or Young before considering bidding for Hazard?

City, with Nasri, A. Johnson and Milner currently on the wings would make more sense. Offload Johnson and/or Milner, bring in Hazard and you probably will have improved your team.
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Post by urbaNRoots Fri May 04, 2012 11:41 am

Se7en wrote:
urbaNRoots wrote:
Se7en wrote:Yeah being ambitious and wanting to join one of the most historically respected and succesful clubs is being a glory hunter (Man U)

It's called being ambitous

City is for the sake of money tho

When Fabregas joined Barcelona he was called a gloryhunter. Not ambitious.

There is a difference from moving from a top club to another top club and moving from a small club to a top club.

Besides whoever did that is a idiot of course he is being ambitious and it's also about moving back to his old club

I completely agree with you, just wanted to point out the double standard.
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Post by Great Leader Sprucenuce Fri May 04, 2012 11:43 am

Who gives a shit about Liverpool's history ( no offense) but right now any player would rather join City right now because they are more likely to win the big trophies.

Also Chelsea might not even be in CL next season, why would he join them? Laughing
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Post by Mr Nick09 Fri May 04, 2012 12:04 pm

My money is on City. Unless Utd is about to sell Nani or Valencia, i think their move for Kagawa and interest for Gaitan suggested than they were not leading this race. the arguments for City are also very potent, Money, the stars around him, the Belgium Captain, Viera doing the convincing and the "newness" factor of City as a nouveau rich.
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Post by Kick Fri May 04, 2012 12:05 pm

Great Leader Sprucenuce wrote:Who gives a shit about Liverpool's history ( no offense) but right now any player would rather join City right now because they are more likely to win the big trophies.

Also Chelsea might not even be in CL next season, why would he join them? Laughing

Ribery joined Bayern the season they were not in CL. Your point?
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Post by Adit Fri May 04, 2012 12:09 pm

Cant blame him for choosing the two best teams in England.

Dont think Yanited have any chance though ,they have a massive 551 million gross debt already. I really doubt they are going to spend 30 mill on a player any time soon.So yeah its Man City then.
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Post by kiranr Fri May 04, 2012 12:16 pm

Adit wrote:Cant blame him for choosing the two best teams in England.

Dont think Yanited have any chance though ,they have a massive 551 million gross debt already. I really doubt they are going to spend 30 mill on a player any time soon.So yeah its Man City then.

They dont have any problem with the debt though. Their interest rates is high but they generate a lot of cash. They won't find any problem sigining Hazard.

The real question is, do either United or City really need Hazard?
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Post by Adit Fri May 04, 2012 12:22 pm

But looking at their financial sheets they are indeed trying to lower the net debt each year.

and in no way 551 million gross debt is safe and with out a doubt it is the biggest debt for any club. They have the capacity to generate income but current state is not a good state to take risks.
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Post by Great Leader Sprucenuce Fri May 04, 2012 12:28 pm

When Ribery joined Bayern he was'nt as big a star as Hazard is now..... plus Bayern are a much bigger club than Chelsea.......

As whether Utd or City need Hazard...... in theory no but Hazard would bench practically any player at both of those clubs in the position he plays......

City want him because he provides width and creativity and makes them harder to defend against than Nasri and Silva does.....

Utd could want him as an AM aswell which quite frankly if they are looking to switch to a 1 striker system with Rooney as the lone striker they will need one.

Also he would begrudge him joining the best 2 sides in the league?

The whole jealousy of him joining a better team is quite frankly hilarious.

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Post by Lex Fri May 04, 2012 12:30 pm

Go to City to further push bucktoothed lesbian down the pecking order? It would almost be worth it Laughing
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Post by kiranr Fri May 04, 2012 1:02 pm

Adit wrote:But looking at their financial sheets they are indeed trying to lower the net debt each year.

and in no way 551 million gross debt is safe and with out a doubt it is the biggest debt for any club. They have the capacity to generate income but current state is not a good state to take risks.

But it won't be a risk. They can still reduce the net debt even after purchasing Hazard.
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Post by sportsczy Fri May 04, 2012 1:32 pm

Total debt is not a problem persay. It's the debt coverage ratio that matters. Namely, your ability to cover the interest payments. I don't know what a good ratio is for footy as it varies by industry and by geography.

Debt is actually a lot less expensive than equity as long as you are able to service it.
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Post by Adit Fri May 04, 2012 1:39 pm

Manu have only 40 % debt coverage which is lower than arsenals 57 % ,Barcas78 % and Real Madrid's 81 %.
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Post by kiranr Fri May 04, 2012 1:42 pm

Adit wrote:Manu have only 40 % debt coverage which is lower than arsenals 57 % ,Barcas78 % and Real Madrid's 81 %.

That is based on their revenue. But they have a healthy interest coverage based on the cash they generate.

It is not exactly a very happy situation, but they can buy Hazard if they want.
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Post by sportsczy Fri May 04, 2012 1:55 pm

Neither have problems. City is going to sell two of Balotelli, Tevez and Dzeko. Man U is getting rid of Berbatov and probably Nani. One of Rio or Vidic will be sold to imo. Should sell Evra too lol. With Young, Hazard, Valencia and Welbeck, they have the wings covered. Going to be a busy summer for both these teams.
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