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Post by Nirgal Sat Jun 18, 2011 12:02 am

I-no wrote:
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talk about double standards, hehehehe
how do you rate argentinian players? locally or like in europe?

What do you mean who do I rate them?
from which point of view, like someone from argentina or like people in europe rate them? for example hamtaro, he is a super talent in europe. what do you think about him?

I personally watch more European Footballso and read some foreign football forums so I rate them more from an euorpean league perspective.

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Post by BarrileteCosmico Sat Jun 18, 2011 12:05 am

Argentina = 40% Spanish + 50% Italian + 7% Other Europeans + 3% Natives
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Post by Nirgal Sat Jun 18, 2011 12:06 am

BarrileteCosmico wrote:Argentina = 40% Spanish + 50% Italian + 7% Other Europeans + 3% Natives

Don't think that takes in to consideration recent immigration.
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Post by I-no Sat Jun 18, 2011 12:10 am

Nirgal wrote:
BarrileteCosmico wrote:Argentina = 40% Spanish + 50% Italian + 7% Other Europeans + 3% Natives

Don't think that takes in to consideration recent immigration.
and I dont think immigration makes 50% italians more.
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Post by I-no Sat Jun 18, 2011 12:10 am

BarrileteCosmico wrote:Argentina = 40% Spanish + 50% Italian + 7% Other Europeans + 3% Natives
what about uruguay?
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Post by PedroBR Sat Jun 18, 2011 12:39 am

Actually I think it's more like this
Brazil = Portuguese+Natives+Italians+Germans+Dutch+Asians(more japaneses than others asians)+Spaniards
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Post by Ganso Sat Jun 18, 2011 12:48 am

I-no wrote:
Ganso wrote:indeed,Argentinian and Uruguayan leagues are very tough physical wise.
tevez and hamtaro are from argentine league.
tevez and masch were made in argentina but forged in brazil :coffee:
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Post by Nirgal Sat Jun 18, 2011 12:51 am

Ganso wrote:
I-no wrote:
Ganso wrote:indeed,Argentinian and Uruguayan leagues are very tough physical wise.
tevez and hamtaro are from argentine league.
tevez and masch were made in argentina but forged in brazil :coffee:

And here we are, us ungrateful argentines, not thanking you for your efforts Razz
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Post by Ganso Sat Jun 18, 2011 12:58 am

Nirgal wrote:
Ganso wrote:
I-no wrote:
Ganso wrote:indeed,Argentinian and Uruguayan leagues are very tough physical wise.
tevez and hamtaro are from argentine league.
tevez and masch were made in argentina but forged in brazil :coffee:

And here we are, us ungrateful argentines, not thanking you for your efforts Razz
ill accept that as a thank you lol....
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Post by Guest Sat Jun 18, 2011 2:05 am

Argentina is more Italians than Spaniards. Messi is Italian for example... Most of the team is too lmao...

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Post by wigglesworth Sat Jun 18, 2011 2:08 am

I go to Argentina pretty often for work. In any meeting, I meet with the aviacon civil, fuerza aerea, armada etc., the majority (2 out of 3) of the people I meet with have Italian last names.

Maybe they are of Spanish descent and adopt Italian names.
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Post by Guest Sat Jun 18, 2011 2:15 am

This is actually a reason why I also some what support Argentina.

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Post by Uruguay Sat Jun 18, 2011 2:48 am

Actually, the natives were all killed in Uruguay in the 1800's, we are mostly Italians and Spaniards.
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Post by Lord Awesome Sat Jun 18, 2011 7:26 am

wigglesworth wrote:I go to Argentina pretty often for work. In any meeting, I meet with the aviacon civil, fuerza aerea, armada etc., the majority (2 out of 3) of the people I meet with have Italian last names.

Maybe they are of Spanish descent and adopt Italian names.

This

Also, Argentinians are at least 10% Native.

And also, let's not forget we have a significant influx of Arabs.


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Post by Lord Awesome Sat Jun 18, 2011 7:27 am

Also, Latin America = Second Spain. Laughing
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Post by Lord Awesome Sat Jun 18, 2011 7:43 am

Btw I-no, were you Millia Rage in the other thread?
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Post by rsinatra Sat Jun 18, 2011 8:25 am

Sir_Psycho_Sexy91 wrote:
rsinatra wrote:
Ganso wrote:
brazil=english+italians+germans+natives+portuguese+africans lol

lots of spaniards too.. my grandma is one of them..

same mine is from Madrid too Sad ... how f'n ironic

mine is from Murcia, they have a football team too!!!!! lol
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Post by gkamtu Sat Jun 18, 2011 9:38 am

u mean most of them are playing tough game using much energy than brain..
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Post by I-no Sat Jun 18, 2011 11:12 am

gkamtu wrote:u mean most of them are playing tough game using much energy than brain..
they use more brain for playing than your for posting. is it fun to insult nations for no reason???
Lord Hispano wrote:Btw I-no, were you Millia Rage in the other thread?
another thread? :queen:
in goal.com? yes, I-no is millia rage.
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Post by Ganso Sat Jun 18, 2011 1:29 pm

there are some argnetine players who are descendant from natives,just look at aguero,ever and maybe tevez.
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Post by awalezelin Sat Jun 18, 2011 1:41 pm

even boca juniors have a connection with genoa (italy)
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Post by BarrileteCosmico Sat Jun 18, 2011 2:49 pm

Lord Hispano wrote:
Also, Argentinians are at least 10% Native.

From Wikipedia:
According to the provisional data of INDEC's Complementary Survey of Indigenous Peoples (ECPI) 2004 - 2005, 600,000 indigenous persons (about 1.5% of the total population) reside in Argentina. An additional 8% are labeled as Mestizo.

Also, according to Wiki Argentina = 86.4% European + 8% Mestizo + 4% Arab or East Asian + 1.4% Amerindian
60% of the population has some degree of Italian descent.

CIA World Factbook:
white (mostly Spanish and Italian) 97%, mestizo (mixed white and Amerindian ancestry), Amerindian, or other non-white groups 3%

Wikipedia probably has it closer to the truth, tbh

Nirgal wrote:
BarrileteCosmico wrote:Argentina = 40% Spanish + 50% Italian + 7% Other Europeans + 3% Natives

Don't think that takes in to consideration recent immigration.

Italian immigration still strong. Recent immigration:

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Post by M99 Sat Jun 18, 2011 3:32 pm

awalezelin wrote:even boca juniors have a connection with genoa (italy)

Boca Juniors was founded by Italians.
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Post by Brigate Rossonere Sat Jun 18, 2011 3:41 pm

Messi is Italian.
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Post by Nirgal Sat Jun 18, 2011 3:48 pm

Brigate Rossonere wrote:Messi is Italian.

Italian and of Italan roots are dif things
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Post by Nirgal Sat Jun 18, 2011 3:57 pm

awalezelin wrote:even boca juniors have a connection with genoa (italy)

The most Italian team is by far recent champions Velez. Their second jersey has the colors of the Italian flag and their fans regularly bring giant Italian flags for supporting them

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