Why no one utilizes the wings against barca?

Honestly fairness to barca, they are still the best, but they have their weakness, espeically from long balls in the box, and set pieces, and pretty much just testing valdes who is not but any length a "WC" keeper.

I kno United never utilized it, nor have madrid so clearly, but if you play the wings, and constantly threaten them with balls in side the box, they will concede. Milan were quick to notice this.

Valdes isnt the hardest keeper to get by, and in turn if you test him with shots or headers, they will have a high chance of finding the back of the net.

I strongly believe if barca were to face stoke and stoke had just one corner, theyd have a 60% chance of scoring it, only because there genetically taller and stronger than barca players.

Just my message for butthurt madristas and a certain portugese who still cant seem to get the upper hand tactically over their rivals.

IAmManUnited wrote:Valdes isnt the hardest keeper to get by, and in turn if you test him with shots or headers, they will have a high chance of finding the back of the net.

That's rather bizarre statement?

Just my message for butthurt madristas and a certain portugese who still cant seem to get the upper hand tactically over their rivals.

This isn't about tactics. its about Mentality.

jiopsi wrote:

IAmManUnited wrote:Valdes isnt the hardest keeper to get by, and in turn if you test him with shots or headers, they will have a high chance of finding the back of the net.

That's rather bizarre statement?

Hes not good one on one, defintley not with long balls in the box, his passing is average and his shot stopping not casillas standard tbf, barca really make him look better than he is

What wingers on Milan noticed this, I would like an explanation of this...

I think RM did exploit the wings as did Valencia, tbh.

Luca wrote:What wingers on Milan noticed this, I would like an explanation of this...

They used long balls agaiinst them which led to their goals, the long ball to silva and boateng for his strike and a bit of billiance to state a few

Theonel Walcott, anyone? Only player to make Barca shit their pants.

But really, what good wingers are out there? Ribéry and Robben are still in the same team

It all sounds good in theory, but you'll find that most wide men that teams utilise are too busy tracking back or tucking in to help guard against Barcelona's possession. When they do get a chance to attack, the wide men are too tired from defending.

Valencia did it well, I recall. Mathieu got down their left and put in some excellent crosses which resulted in two goals.

I dont know you are talking about barca play or opposition team play but if you are talking about barca play, well focusing on headers would ruin their system. They mainly play short passes and it works. Barcelona also can do crosses and headers. But they know that headers = Waste of time, most of time after headers or crosses you loose the ball. And Barcelona doesnt love to loose the ball

Coming from a United fan, this is just full of lulz

Need I remind you of your last encounter?

Sushi Master wrote:Theonel Walcott, anyone? Only player to make Barca shit their pants.

please refer to my sig

Benzema or Higuain in the box against Pique/Puyol/Busquets is hardly very favourable.

IAmManUnited wrote:

jiopsi wrote:

IAmManUnited wrote:Valdes isnt the hardest keeper to get by, and in turn if you test him with shots or headers, they will have a high chance of finding the back of the net.

That's rather bizarre statement?

Hes not good one on one, defintley not with long balls in the box, his passing is average and his shot stopping not casillas standard tbf, barca really make him look better than he is

Not good one on one? Yes, probably just the worlds best one on one. Passing average? He's in passing team, his passing is great. Shot stopping is not Casillas standard? Valdes had second best save % in whole Europe last year.

That's why I thought that was bizarre statement to make, you obviously don't watch Barca play much. You just watched last Clasico, where he had a bad game and you made you judgement from that?

jiopsi wrote:

IAmManUnited wrote:

jiopsi wrote:

IAmManUnited wrote:Valdes isnt the hardest keeper to get by, and in turn if you test him with shots or headers, they will have a high chance of finding the back of the net.

That's rather bizarre statement?

Hes not good one on one, defintley not with long balls in the box, his passing is average and his shot stopping not casillas standard tbf, barca really make him look better than he is

Not good one on one? Yes, probably just the worlds best one on one. Passing average? He's in passing team, his passing is great. Shot stopping is not Casillas standard? Valdes had second best save % in whole Europe last year.

That's why I thought that was bizarre statement to make, you obviously don't watch Barca play much. You just watched last Clasico, where he had a bad game and you made you judgement from that?

This... wtf... the thing which shows you have absolutely no idea is that you chose his best two attributes and said he sucked at them. 1v1, best around... generally half his saves are 1v1 matchwinners. Ballplaying? One of the best of all-time probably, not many keepers in history have to use their feet as much as him. Basing your opinion on his last game is quite noob to say the least.

Well, I still want to see a full strength Bayern play against them in the CL. IMO that might be not the worst match-up.

It's possible but you need more than just your average EPL winger. Someone like Ribery or Robben are the kind of people who'll do real damage against Farca. The problem is I doubt Bayern's defence could leak less goals than the opposition
Sanchez and Messi are no mugs either
We could challenge them next time as well with Benzema on left and Di Maria on the right

EPL type of wingers are useless against Farca

I think the 4-3-1-2 formation would be great against barca,3 hard working DMs with at least some technical skill,an am who creates and attacks(unlike ozil) and 2 players who can take their chances upfront

Ganso wrote:I think the 4-3-1-2 formation would be great against barca,3 hard working DMs with at least some technical skill,an am who creates and attacks(unlike ozil) and 2 players who can take their chances upfront

Barca play similar to this.

Except they don't use 3 DM's, but they still defend as a team.

babun1024 wrote:It's possible but you need more than just your average EPL winger. Someone like Ribery or Robben are the kind of people who'll do real damage against Farca. The problem is I doubt Bayern's defence could leak less goals than the opposition

As soon as Schweinsteiger is fit again, I think the Bayern defense will be solid enough. You might want to check the article I posted here: https://goallegacy.forumotion.com/t13674-bastian-schweinsteiger-is-the-most-influential-defensive-player-in-the-world

Check the "top defensive record" listed in the pic here:

(Source Goal.com)

rwo power wrote:

babun1024 wrote:It's possible but you need more than just your average EPL winger. Someone like Ribery or Robben are the kind of people who'll do real damage against Farca. The problem is I doubt Bayern's defence could leak less goals than the opposition

As soon as Schweinsteiger is fit again, I think the Bayern defense will be solid enough. You might want to check the article I posted here: https://goallegacy.forumotion.com/t13674-bastian-schweinsteiger-is-the-most-influential-defensive-player-in-the-world

Check the "top defensive record" listed in the pic here:

Nice stats. Defensive cover from midfield =|= defence. Badstuber would be murdered against Farca. It doesn't matter how well he defends if he isn't fast enough on recovery
Also, team defending>>> individuals

LOL. I even rated Valdes higher than Casillas last year. He is excellent in one on ones (unlike what you have noticed), possesses good passing skills and has good positioning. Barca may be midgets but they can also defend those wingers.

I even know a winger who flopped big time against them. AGAIN.

Honestly fairness to barca, they are still the best, but they have their weakness, espeically from long balls in the box, and set pieces, and pretty much just testing valdes who is not but any length a "WC" keeper.

Valdez is a WC keeper. One mistake doesn't change that.

I kno United never utilized it, nor have madrid so clearly, but if you play the wings, and constantly threaten them with balls in side the box, they will concede. Milan were quick to notice this.

Your idea is flawed. You cannot "constantly" threaten barca because you wont have enough possession to do anything off the sort.

Valdes isnt the hardest keeper to get by, and in turn if you test him with shots or headers, they will have a high chance of finding the back of the net.

This statement is just :lol!:

I strongly believe if barca were to face stoke and stoke had just one corner, theyd have a 60% chance of scoring it, only because there genetically taller and stronger than barca players.

If the last statement was LOL, then this statement is

Just my message for butthurt madristas and a certain portugese who still cant seem to get the upper hand tactically over their rivals.

This last part is accurate.

Socceric
(Manchester United)

stoke city vs barcelona for the 2013 champions league final! Stoke would win 1-0! lol. I would pay to see that.

LOL has to be a GL member.