Re: the official Dwayne Wade >>> you thread

[dmize]

Hah that's right just Quit. Nice excuse

Is that all u got is FG percentage

U come at me with weak garbage u must be another kobe hater

That's not good enough for you? Here's some more; Lebron was better than Kobe in the following: True Shooting Percentage(a better indicator since FG% and 3PT FG% aren't good enough for you), rebounds, assists, and most importantly PER, aka Player Efficiency Rating. Lebron was far more efficient. And PER is probably one of if not the best tool of measuring a players impact. Oh and his Value Added(VA) and Estimated Wins Added(EWA) were all better too. EWA says Lebron was responsible for about 7 more wins compared to Kobe last year(25 to 18)

Feel free to come out with any actual reasoning or stats to why he's better, because you've failed miserably so far.

Durants also better than Kobe too, fwiw.

[Chad]

Let's See No duh Lebron is going to have more assist he dosen't hog the ball like Kobe and get more Rebounds cause he always closer to the rim. . Too bad u dont give me his 4th QTR Stats. And i have gave u plenty of Reasons why kobe is better. no one cares about the PER stat

PERs was a joke when it had David Robinson ranked higher than Wilt Chamberlain or Tracy McGrady ranked higher than Jerry West, Oscar Robertons, and Elgin Baylor.

[dmize]

And since the season is looking unlikely to happen at this point, this is now the College Basketball/2012 NBA Draft Thread.

Who will get Drummond??

Raptors or Clippers would both love to have him and probably have the best shot.

Say the Raps get him. Do they keep both Valanciunas and Drummond, could form a lethal front court. Bargnani would surely be traded.

Bayless/FA
DeRozan/Barbosa
FA SG/A.Johnson
Drummond/Davis
Valanciunas

Btw: You've provided nothing as far as insight to why he's better. Not only that, you have a slim grasp on the English language to begin with, why continue with someone who can't form a complete sentence.

[dmize]

I'm watching some past high schoolers highlight videos, I gotta say John Walls' is one of my favorite:



Austin Rivers(he originally committed to Florida, now he's going to Duke):

[Sir Psycho]

Shabazz Muhammad is a stud potential future " "

[dmize]

Shabazz Muhammad is a stud potential future " "

Definitely he's ridiculous. Nice vid. I'm sure he'll be #1 in 2013.

Another player I like a lot is Nerlens Noel, one of the best defensive talents I've seen in a while. Plus he gets extra props from me for the high-top haircut.

[dmize]

Two more Drummond videos I haven't posted(from when he was a Soph/Jnr in H.S.):

[dmize]

Imagine if Kemba had stayed his senior year because of the lockout?

Kemba/Napier/Boatright
J.Lamb/Giffey
D.Daniels/R.Smith
A.Oriakhi/Olander
A.Drummond/Oriakhi

Would've been up there with the college teams ever, maybe the best. Alright I'll stop dreaming now.

[Sir Psycho]

James McAdoo ~ UNC Freshman



Tarheels are sooo deep, imo they needed to get their asses kicked last season so they could learn regroup and bounce back. Expect them to do some damage next spring, they'll surely be seeded higher than Duke.

[justdoit_]

Would've been up there with the college teams ever, maybe the best. Alright I'll stop dreaming now.

Settle down, tiger.

Coach Wooden's Bruins would walk over that team.

[Chad]

I see u went grammar nazi on me as if i care.

And i already told u why he is better but i see stats only matter to u.

Kobe's a proven winner
His defense
Has 5 rings
Higher basketball IQ
Mid-Range Jumpshots
Better free throw percentage
More Clutch
More Skilled
Better Team Leader
Post Game
81 points
Better at 3's




U are just a Kobe Hater.
We agree to disagree

And since u implied im a bandwagoner.
MLB: Dodgers
NHL: Kings/Maple Leafs
NBA: Lakers/Bulls
NFL: Oakland Raiders
Futebol: Galaxy/Real Madrid/Santos
NCAA: USC I would add Kentucky But you know only my brother can root for them according to some stranger.

Can i Get Your List?

And Wade is the best player on the Heat NBA Finals proved that.

Wade
2011 Finals 29.8ppg 8rpg 4.3apg 1.6 TO 58 FG%

Lebron
2011 Finals 17ppg 7.3rpg 6.3apg 3.6 TO 46 FG%

[dmize]

Would've been up there with the college teams ever, maybe the best. Alright I'll stop dreaming now.

Settle down, tiger.

Coach Wooden's Bruins would walk over that team.

Did this dude just say tiger? Rofl.

That's obvious, now how about a team that actually played in the modern era. I can think of a few(96 Kentucky 99 Duke), that roster is just as competitive as either. Kemba is one of the greatest college players ever and Drummond would start for some NBA teams RIGHT now.

I am biased but I also say 2006 UConn is one of the best teams that never won it all. Sooo much talent. That 92-93 Michigan team was another that should've won it all(99 Duke too).

[dmize]

Kobe's a proven winner -irrelevant, disproved that with the Russell argument
His defense - LeBrons a solid defender as well
Has 5 rings - Repetitive, see above
Higher basketball IQ - Opinion, but yea probably
Mid-Range Jumpshots - ok
Better free throw percentage - ok
More Clutch - fair enough
More Skilled - Opinion and at this point no he's not
Better Team Leader - opinion Lebron led pretty well in Cleveland
Post Game
81 points
Better at 3's

Kevin Garnett has won, has a great midrange game, has a post game, is a great team leader, has a great basketball IQ, has better defense than either of the two. Is he the best player in the game?

Durant and maybe even Rose are better at this point too, deal with it.

And these are my teams

Arsenal/NY Red Bulls
NY Rangers
NY Yankees
NY Jets
Boston Celtics
UConn hoops/football/soccer/baseball

[Chad]

U
Wait so you like the Lakers, Bulls, Kentucky and Real Madrid? Anyone you root for who doesn't finish in the top 2 of their division every year?

And these are my teams
Arsenal/NY Red Bulls
NY Rangers
NY Yankees
NY Jets
Boston Celtics
UConn hoops/football/soccer/baseball
Don't be a hypocrite

I think you will like this Phil Jackson>Red Auerbach :lol!:

And Kobe will prove u wrong *Prays* if there is a season this year.

[pUsHa]

As long as Kobe keeps up bringing his A+ Game in the play-ofs it's all that matters . Kobe is already in his thirties , he must take care of his body ... LeBron can rule the regular season all he wants but when it matters he's hardly a 2nd option , lol .

Kobe now finally has some time to rest ... and he took care of his injuries and his knees look healthy now . No player in this league got into the Finals 3 years straight while having the Olympics in one of those summers , makes u think that he didnt rest at all ... while LeBron had the time to prepare for another season and another dissapointment , lol

[Chad]

OT

Brandon Jennings Saying Kobe ain't LA enough what a Bleep

Kobe is going to tear him up.

Nobody whant's your Under Armour Garbage Jennings.

[dmize]

U
Wait so you like the Lakers, Bulls, Kentucky and Real Madrid? Anyone you root for who doesn't finish in the top 2 of their division every year?

And these are my teams
Arsenal/NY Red Bulls
NY Rangers
NY Yankees
NY Jets
Boston Celtics
UConn hoops/football/soccer/baseball
Don't be a hypocrite

I think you will like this Phil Jackson>Red Auerbach :lol!:

And Kobe will prove u wrong *Prays* if there is a season this year.

Do you know how to use the Quote button, genius?

How many I hypocrite, please explain that, I'd love to hear. Arsenal haven't even won a trophy in years let alone the BPL. The NY Jets haven't won a Super Bowl since the 60's, although they're better now. The Rangers are miserable I can't even remember the last time they won their division. Boston has 1 title this decade. Oh and if you didn't notice I live within 100 miles of every team on my list so please run along.

And 17 Celtic titles > 16

And NY Yankees 27 Titles > any team you root for

Like I said run along cause your act is tiring

[Chad]

Lebron best in the game Yeh in Right Kobe Is
Check My $tats like that lebron shirt.
Heat Suck Lakers All Day. And Da Bulls!

Wait so you like the Lakers, Bulls, Kentucky and Real Madrid? Anyone you root for who doesn't finish in the top 2 of their division every year?

And I checked Kobes stats, he's not the best player in the league anymore. Only shot 45% on the year, and 32% from 3. Hell, Lebron shot it better beyond the arc ffs, 33%.

You don't even read your own words.
Finish in the top 2 of their division every year?

Really your within a 100 miles of Arsenal? Again u don't even read your own damm words.
Better get that map out!

Ohh Lakers>Celtic

Again your list tell's me all i need to know hypocrite.

Don't call people bandwagon if your list screams it.

And last time i checked u don't run this thread.

[dmize]

Lebron best in the game Yeh in Right Kobe Is
Check My $tats like that lebron shirt.
Heat Suck Lakers All Day. And Da Bulls!

Wait so you like the Lakers, Bulls, Kentucky and Real Madrid? Anyone you root for who doesn't finish in the top 2 of their division every year?

And I checked Kobes stats, he's not the best player in the league anymore. Only shot 45% on the year, and 32% from 3. Hell, Lebron shot it better beyond the arc ffs, 33%.

You don't even read your own words.
Finish in the top 2 of their division every year?

Really your within a 100 miles of Arsenal? Again u don't even read your own damm words.
Better get that map out!

Ohh Lakers>Celtic

Again your list tell's me all i need to know hypocrite.

Don't call people bandwagon if your list screams it.

And last time i checked u don't run this thread.

I thought it was obvious to anyone with any common sense that I meant every team except for Arsenal. IDK where you live and don't care frankly, but you aren't close to at least 3-4 of your teams.

NY Rangers, did they finish top 2 last year? No? stfu
Arsenal, top 2 finish? No, stfu
NYRB aren't even top 3 in their division right now.
UConn Football just won their first couple of bowl games for the first time in their history.
Jets are just starting to see some success, still haven't won anything in 40 years, so again STFU

So I get it, I'm a bandwagoner because I like Arsenal and I'm not from England, is that it? Shouldn't I have picked United, or Chelsea, or hell even City? Newsflash: if you're from the west coast, you're farther away from Madrid than I am from London, and RM has had more recent success.

RM = top 2 finish
Lakers = won their division, 2nd in conference
Bulls = won their division, first in conference
Kentucky = won SEC

What are your other teams? The Packers lol?

Here it is for you simple: Everyone of your teams won their divisions or came in 2nd. Can't say the same for Arsenal, UConn BBall, or the NY Rangers

You don't even know what's going on with the sports world, let alone where teams finished. Everyone knows the Rangers and Jets are two of the sorriest franchises(Jets turning that around though :king: ), yet I BANDWAGON them. All you've done is proven your ineptitude. Many. Times. Keep going though if that's your thing.

I'll say it again, since you're obviously slow, everyone of my teams(sans Arsenal since you couldn't figure that out) borders Connecticut, or is in Connecticut.

And I'm not just saying you're slow. Seriously you're a mental deficient. An apostrophe at the end of the word tell? Really? "whant's" Obviously I don't take you seriously but if you want anyone to, you should learn English. It'll help

I'm rather tired of owning you at this point, so this is my last post regarding your bandwagoning. It's like arguing with a 12 year old who's only response is "no, you are." I want to discuss basketball not argue with some simpleton.

[Chad]

I'm a native Angeleno

Bulls= 2 years in a row Chicago Bulls 41 41 .500 The Year Before that First pick of the NBA draft. (Fan since Jordan)
RM= I don't have to tell you there history if u know Football. (Fan Since 2006)
Lakers= I can't help that there the standard of excellence in the NBA. (Fan Since Birth)
Kentucky= My Brother's team a Grad of the school, but you always gloss over that.
LA Kings= Have Sucked for Years but are getting better. (Fan Since Birth) Gretzky
LA Dodgers= Up and Down over the years. (Fan Since Birth) FU Frank McCourt GTFO
Oakland Raiders= Sucked since 2003. (Fan Since Birth)
USC= On Probation since Pete Carroll left town. (Fan Since Birth)
So Why Don't U Stfu

I already won your constant insults proves that. They don't prove anything, all they prove is that the other person is right.

And really don't bring up the NY Rangers if you only watch 2 of their games a year.

And yes I knew you meant every team except Arsenal. I was doing your Smartass Routine you like to do with me. So I will let you get back to worshipping the ground Drummond walks on. I would love to talk basketball, but all you do is insult people who you Disagree with where is the fun in that.

And really you use Real Madrid they play in La Liga it's always mostly a 2 horse race vs the EPL. Arsenal is a Big Four Club stop acting like they suck.

You Forgot the C's and the Yankees on your lovely rant at me.

I'll say it again, since you're obviously slow, everyone of my teams(sans Arsenal since you couldn't figure that out) borders Connecticut, or is in Connecticut.
You forgot the space. Look Im You




P.S.
Love Ya

[dmize]

R.I.P. to the Big East Conference and the Big East Tournament as we know it. Pittsburgh and Syracuse have left for the ACC, and it looks like UConn and Rutgers or WVU are next.

Big East tournament won't be the same after this year, even if the ACC holds its tournament at MSG.

One of my favorite Big East Tournament moments, UConn vs. Georgetown where Ray Allen hit a crazy game winner over Allen Iverson to win the BET.



Or Taliek Brown with the 35 footer as the shot clock expired against Pitt in 2002 to clinch the BET for UConn



College re-alignment sucks, they ruined the best basketball conference(with a legendary tournament), all for college football reasons.

With that said the ACC will take over as the best basketball conference. I'm sure they'll end up with 16 teams, two divisions of 8 teams. Will probably look a lot like this:

ACC North:
Pittsburgh
Syracuse
UConn
Maryland
Boston College
Rutgers
Virginia
Virginia Tech

ACC South:
North Carolina
Duke
Florida State
Wake Forest
Clemson
Georgia Tech
NC State
Miami

[dmize]

"The NBA players and owners are trying to set up their next bargaining session this week. They are hoping to meet Wednesday and/or Thursday in New York City, according to sources close to the situation.

With the scheduled start of training camp just two weeks away, both sides are feeling a heightened sense of urgency. While tough rhetoric has come from both camps, sources say neither wants to postpone the start of the regular season.

The NBA players and owners are trying to set up their next bargaining session this week. They are hoping to meet Wednesday and/or Thursday in New York City, according to sources close to the situation.

With the scheduled start of training camp just two weeks away, both sides are feeling a heightened sense of urgency. While tough rhetoric has come from both camps, sources say neither wants to postpone the start of the regular season. "


http://espn.go.com/nba/story/_/page/lockout-110916/why-owners-win-lockout

Hopefully this means there's progress, I'm hoping they get a deal done and we don't have to miss the beginning of the season, but I'm not counting on it.

[Magricos]

They better get it done I'm even more excited by this upcoming season than last season.

[Sir Psycho]

I've already lost all interest in the NBA. Now I'll focus a lot more on the NHL, preseason already under way.

[dmize]

I've already lost all interest in the NBA. Now I'll focus a lot more on the NHL, preseason already under way.

Why not watch college b-ball? This is going to be one of the most exciting seasons in a while imo. A lot of NBA potential to watch: Andre Drummond, Anthony Davis, Terrence Jones, James McAdoo, Harrison Barnes, Austin Rivers(Doc Rivers son), Perry Jones, Michael Gilchrist, Jeremy Lamb and quite a few more.


Other freshmen that should be fun to watch:

http://espn.go.com/espn/dickvitale/story/_/id/6961104/dick-vitale-dozen-dazzling-diaper-dandies

[Sir Psycho]

College hoops for me doesn't get interesting till January.

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