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Post by zarola Tue Nov 29, 2011 9:49 pm

His second goal was magical. Discuss :coffee:
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Post by ThatOneTwo Tue Nov 29, 2011 11:02 pm

havn't seen it yet,
but i heraed from a friend he kicked ass tonight.

what was our deal for him with Napoli?
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Post by Cotes Tue Nov 29, 2011 11:18 pm

oh well...it was a great goal I must admit although Bonucci wasn't his best on the night...
Anyhow, great goal from former Interista Smile
but we still didn't lose Very Happy
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Post by zarola Tue Nov 29, 2011 11:25 pm

I'm pretty sure Pandev is just on a loan. TBH I'd rather have him here than Milito. Looks like he's trolling us with goals though. The second goal he did some sublime juggling touches and had a beautiful finish. And the first goal was an amazing finish.
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Post by Swanhends Tue Nov 29, 2011 11:37 pm

Pandev was amazing tonight

Still don't want him anywhere near our team Lo0o0oO0o0oL
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Post by DeviAngel Wed Nov 30, 2011 12:15 am

He just needs time and confidence Pandev is like that If u don't show faith in him and that u trust him u lose him .... but when given time he is back as what he is ... He has amazing tech no1 can deny that but he is like that .....

I hate u today pandev Very Happy
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Post by Internal Wed Nov 30, 2011 1:43 am

I still can't believe they made hamsik retake that penalty, disgraceful juve favoritism
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Post by zizzle Wed Nov 30, 2011 5:22 am

chill dude, that result is the best we can hope for if we're to get back in the title race.
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Post by :{Mr.Mustachio! Wed Nov 30, 2011 11:25 am

Internal wrote:I still can't believe they made hamsik retake that penalty, disgraceful juve favoritism

Shocked



Freeze at 0:28, that's encroachment and grounds for a retake. Grounds a strict ref like Tagliavento picked up on immediately.



Favouritism indeed.
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Post by zarola Wed Nov 30, 2011 12:12 pm

wait is it because Inler was in the "D" when the kick was taken?
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Post by :{Mr.Mustachio! Wed Nov 30, 2011 1:21 pm

zarola wrote:wait is it because Inler was in the "D" when the kick was taken?

Not only that, but because there were multiple players in the box before the ball was struck also.

http://www.fifa.com/mm/document/afdeveloping/refereeing/8.%20law%2014_559.pdf

If the referee gives the signal for a penalty kick to be taken and, before the ball is in play, one of the following situations occurs:
 A team-mate of the player taking the kick infringes the Laws of the Game:

• The referee allows the kick to proceed.
• If the ball enters the goal, the kick is retaken.
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Post by fishball Wed Nov 30, 2011 2:48 pm

btw theres nothing wrong with hamsik goal right? true he was offside when lavezzi delivered the free kick, but he didnt interfere the play.
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Post by DeviAngel Wed Nov 30, 2011 3:34 pm

Internal wrote:I still can't believe they made hamsik retake that penalty, disgraceful juve favoritism

Yup u are right we got 3 FK's out of possible 9999 fouls

Yup they favor us when they "don't see" Penalties and offside goals against Cagliari


refs are not computers they make mistakes ...but the penalty decision was right if u don't believe it read it on fifa ...
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Post by :{Mr.Mustachio! Wed Nov 30, 2011 3:53 pm

fishball wrote:btw theres nothing wrong with hamsik goal right? true he was offside when lavezzi delivered the free kick, but he didnt interfere the play.

I don't know, looked at FIFA's document but i'm not sure either way. I myself was certain that as it deflected off a Juve player (Bonucci) it should stand. But after looking again i'm not sure.

http://www.fifa.com/mm/document/afdeveloping/refereeing/5.%20law%2011_554.pdf

Can't find it in there though.

Also I considered maybe it stood because it was direct from a free kick but apparently it's only a non effect if direct from a throw in, gk or corner; Although I'm pretty sure I've seen examples of those penalised.

Their definition of 'interfering with play' makes it less clear cut than the PK retake.



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Post by zizzle Wed Nov 30, 2011 3:54 pm

so tits, anyone else likes them ?
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Post by DeviAngel Wed Nov 30, 2011 3:58 pm

zizzle wrote:so tits, anyone else likes them ?

biiiiiiiiiiig juicy Very Happy that sounds good Smile
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Post by :{Mr.Mustachio! Wed Nov 30, 2011 4:00 pm

zizzle wrote:so tits, anyone else likes them ?

:lol!:
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Post by DeviAngel Wed Nov 30, 2011 4:02 pm

:{Mr.Mustachio! wrote:
fishball wrote:btw theres nothing wrong with hamsik goal right? true he was offside when lavezzi delivered the free kick, but he didnt interfere the play.

I don't know, looked at FIFA's document but i'm not sure either way. I myself was certain that as it deflected off a Juve player (Bonucci) it should stand. But after looking again i'm not sure.

http://www.fifa.com/mm/document/afdeveloping/refereeing/5.%20law%2011_554.pdf

Can't find it in there though.

Also I considered maybe it stood because it was direct from a free kick but apparently it's only a non effect if direct from a throw in, gk or corner; Although I'm pretty sure I've seen examples of those penalised.

Their definition of 'interfering with play' makes it less clear cut than the PK retake.


Its not offside. When u take the test as reff its 2nd rule u learn. The rule of activating the passive offside is not in force since Netherlands vs Chechz Republic game 2004 Euro ... He put the ball backward making 2nd action which is not offside
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Post by fishball Wed Nov 30, 2011 4:03 pm

zizzle wrote:so tits, anyone else likes them ?

you made my day :lol!: :lol!:
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Post by DeviAngel Wed Nov 30, 2011 4:04 pm

fishball wrote:
zizzle wrote:so tits, anyone else likes them ?

you made my day :lol!: :lol!:


stop throwing airplanes ffs do u know how much are 500 ???? make it more interesting Very Happy put some IF there Smile and Else
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Post by :{Mr.Mustachio! Wed Nov 30, 2011 4:10 pm

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fishball wrote:btw theres nothing wrong with hamsik goal right? true he was offside when lavezzi delivered the free kick, but he didnt interfere the play.

I don't know, looked at FIFA's document but i'm not sure either way. I myself was certain that as it deflected off a Juve player (Bonucci) it should stand. But after looking again i'm not sure.

http://www.fifa.com/mm/document/afdeveloping/refereeing/5.%20law%2011_554.pdf

Can't find it in there though.

Also I considered maybe it stood because it was direct from a free kick but apparently it's only a non effect if direct from a throw in, gk or corner; Although I'm pretty sure I've seen examples of those penalised.

Their definition of 'interfering with play' makes it less clear cut than the PK retake.


Its not offside. When u take the test as reff its 2nd rule u learn. The rule of activating the passive offside is not in force since Netherlands vs Chechz Republic game 2004 Euro ... He put the ball backward making 2nd action which is not offside

But is it just me that has seen goals like that disallowed since 04? eco smile

To be fair to Nabuli like 75% of PK's should be re-taken on that basis. Just depends on the referee it seems, no consistency.


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Post by Swanhends Wed Nov 30, 2011 4:21 pm

Tagliavento is a by the book ref who went by the book, there should be no complaints about the re-taking of the PK...Yeah we've all seen things like that allowed by other refs but thats not the letter of the law - it was a good call

Also the goal by Hamsik was good...passive offside etc
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Post by :{Mr.Mustachio! Wed Nov 30, 2011 4:35 pm

And let me just say after that celebration Hamsik almost deserved that re-take, what a tw@. smoking
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Post by Swanhends Wed Nov 30, 2011 4:56 pm

Running down the tunnel after BARELY scoring a PK :facepalm:

Why did he take them anyway?

Lavezzi, Pandev, hell even Maggio would've been better picks
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Post by :{Mr.Mustachio! Wed Nov 30, 2011 5:01 pm

bhends wrote:Running down the tunnel after BARELY scoring a PK :facepalm:

Why did he take them anyway?

Lavezzi, Pandev, hell even Maggio would've been better picks

...Then he reappears and continues to celebrate with his stupid Mohawk celebration, still totally oblivious :facepalm:

His face as he turns round is priceless banana

I think he took it because all week he was running his mouth about beating Juve, but his overconfidence backfired. Lavezzi should have took it but there you go eco smile
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