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Krasics biggest problem is his positioning...I don't think he will recover his form! Let's see...

Luca wrote:He isn't one dimensional...
Speed kills, he is a pure winger
A right footed player on the right wing who aims to beat players on the wing i.e take them outside

Don't be ignorant, teams didn't 'find him out' be real, it would take 2 games last season to see that the play goes entirely through Krasic
Now Juventus has more options going forward, attackers like Vucinic who is dynamic, Pirlo who is godlike. Vidal and Marchisio who do very well in attack.
Lichtsteiner who can support well.

You guys underestimate the hell out of Krasic, he is class. His 'one dimension' is better than any other winger and their whatever you want to say, 5, 6 dimensions or whatever you claim.

In my eyes he has been one dimensional recently, but is definitely not limited to this. I think sooner or later he will come back.

The_ItalianFool wrote:

Luca wrote:He isn't one dimensional...
Speed kills, he is a pure winger
A right footed player on the right wing who aims to beat players on the wing i.e take them outside

Don't be ignorant, teams didn't 'find him out' be real, it would take 2 games last season to see that the play goes entirely through Krasic
Now Juventus has more options going forward, attackers like Vucinic who is dynamic, Pirlo who is godlike. Vidal and Marchisio who do very well in attack.
Lichtsteiner who can support well.

You guys underestimate the hell out of Krasic, he is class. His 'one dimension' is better than any other winger and their whatever you want to say, 5, 6 dimensions or whatever you claim.

In my eyes he has been one dimensional recently, but is definitely not limited to this. I think sooner or later he will come back.

If his positioning and timing of runs was better then him being one dimensional would not be that big of a problem...

inderbaby wrote:

The_ItalianFool wrote:

Luca wrote:He isn't one dimensional...
Speed kills, he is a pure winger
A right footed player on the right wing who aims to beat players on the wing i.e take them outside

Don't be ignorant, teams didn't 'find him out' be real, it would take 2 games last season to see that the play goes entirely through Krasic
Now Juventus has more options going forward, attackers like Vucinic who is dynamic, Pirlo who is godlike. Vidal and Marchisio who do very well in attack.
Lichtsteiner who can support well.

You guys underestimate the hell out of Krasic, he is class. His 'one dimension' is better than any other winger and their whatever you want to say, 5, 6 dimensions or whatever you claim.

In my eyes he has been one dimensional recently, but is definitely not limited to this. I think sooner or later he will come back.

If his positioning and timing of runs was better then him being one dimensional would not be that big of a problem...

Yeah thats what I mean. If he positioned well and made good decisions with the ball, it wouldnt be a problem. He is fast enough for that to be his main thing, he just needs to make better decisions.

Holy shit....were having a football discussion...finally :dance:

Definitely, but the way Juventus' attack has been working this year he would compliment players like Pirlo as they would him.

He definitely has lost his edge but sitting on the bench won't bring it back.

Luca wrote:Definitely, but the way Juventus' attack has been working this year he would compliment players like Pirlo as they would him.

He definitely has lost his edge but sitting on the bench won't bring it back.

I don't think he is a strong character and I can't see him breaking back into this conte side just yet...he could give a big contribution still but let's see...he defo needs to up his energy and drive on the pitch though!

Luca wrote:Definitely, but the way Juventus' attack has been working this year he would compliment players like Pirlo as they would him.

He definitely has lost his edge but sitting on the bench won't bring it back.

Good point in the idea that Pirlo can increase Krasic's game just because he can distribute the ball almost anywhere. I hope Krasic gets back in form, Pirlo's long distance balls can pick out a krasic run from down the field, this would be awesome.

The_ItalianFool wrote:

Luca wrote:Definitely, but the way Juventus' attack has been working this year he would compliment players like Pirlo as they would him.

He definitely has lost his edge but sitting on the bench won't bring it back.

Good point in the idea that Pirlo can increase Krasic's game just because he can distribute the ball almost anywhere. I hope Krasic gets back in form, Pirlo's long distance balls can pick out a krasic run from down the field, this would be awesome.

Yes...have you seen Pirlo find Pepe on occasions with that long ball when Pepe times the run correctly...Krasic would be devastating in that circumstance

It is critical we integrate Krasic into the team before it is too late. He is only one dimensional in the fact that he is a true winger and likes to attack the ball and drive to the box. He doesn't have defensive skills,but as a true winger as long as we have a strong defensive RB (Licht), then we are fine with Krasic in the lineup.

At the end of the day, our SuperGod Pepe won't be able to handle the entire load at RW. Also, even in a 4-3-3 we still need a RW like Krasic, as Vucinic or Quags or even Giovinco would just play the other side as a support striker. Krasic can be a critical element of this team and I hope he gets back to last year's form (first half of year) real quick.

inderbaby wrote:

Luca wrote:Definitely, but the way Juventus' attack has been working this year he would compliment players like Pirlo as they would him.

He definitely has lost his edge but sitting on the bench won't bring it back.

I don't think he is a strong character and I can't see him breaking back into this conte side just yet...he could give a big contribution still but let's see...he defo needs to up his energy and drive on the pitch though!

I know, the unfortunate thing is it is probably now or never
I don't see him sticking around past January if his situation remains the same and truthfully I don't blame him because he probably does have good offers from clubs

inderbaby wrote:

Camurrìa.Sto.Stronzo wrote:'Juventus is a business, and many teams field players only to increase their worth in the next market... It's a pretty smart strategy.'

Yet when I said that about Krasic, it was the end of the world

Krasic isn't Juve...I think he should be sold coz he has been made...he is pretty one dimensional and all the serie a teams know how to deal with him...I think he could do good in the EPL though

Who said Krasic is Juve? I said Krasic is part of Juve and that statement Fab said was something I said in the past, except he didn't mention Krasic. No I don't think he should be sold, why sell a winger that good to begin with? We spent 15m and now we sell him for less? Please... I'd rather sell Simone Pepe for all I care. The EPL is more physcial than Italian football... he won't fit well there. He's more fit in La Liga or in the Bundesliga where there's more open space for attacking movements.

inderbaby wrote:Krasics biggest problem is his positioning...I don't think he will recover his form! Let's see...

No, Krasic's biggest problem is that he's not atheletic, he's a technical player... a Player who does not rely on skill, rather on speed. The problem with that is, that's all he is good for. He's not the type of winger who will go one on one and use skill to go through him, he will use his speed to out run his defender. That being said, Serie A is tactical... so now you usually have 3 markers on him, he now needs to learn to get through that. Look at Pirlo for instance, almost every game our oppositions don't leave much space for him, in fact he's always closed down and pressed... but he manages all the time to get the plays flowing due to his skill. He's not an amazing dribbler, but know's how to go through his man and Krasic needs to learn how.

juve_gigi wrote:It is critical we integrate Krasic into the team before it is too late. He is only one dimensional in the fact that he is a true winger and likes to attack the ball and drive to the box. He doesn't have defensive skills,but as a true winger as long as we have a strong defensive RB (Licht), then we are fine with Krasic in the lineup.

At the end of the day, our SuperGod Pepe won't be able to handle the entire load at RW. Also, even in a 4-3-3 we still need a RW like Krasic, as Vucinic or Quags or even Giovinco would just play the other side as a support striker. Krasic can be a critical element of this team and I hope he gets back to last year's form (first half of year) real quick.

Completely agreed. That being said in which you claimed he's a pure winger. THATS WHAT CONTE WANTS. Something many of the posters here don't understand. Pepe works hard... stu cazzo work hard. At the end of the day, he's a horrible attacking winger, this implies also to Giaccherini though is better than Pepe. Conte has alwyas relied on attacking wingers, it didn't matter about defensive duties, because the midfield plus fullbacks were trained to take upon those responsibilites.

inderbaby wrote:Holy shit....were having a football discussion...finally :dance:

If not, we can talk about the boob and a** thread in the other forum.

Camurrìa.Sto.Stronzo wrote:

inderbaby wrote:Holy shit....were having a football discussion...finally :dance:

If not, we can talk about the boob and a** thread in the other forum.

What on earth you going on about now?

inderbaby wrote:

Camurrìa.Sto.Stronzo wrote:

inderbaby wrote:Holy shit....were having a football discussion...finally :dance:

If not, we can talk about the boob and a** thread in the other forum.

What on earth you going on about now?

Nothing. Read the two posts above. Both are in response to you.