Re: Spurs will overcome Arsenal

by Ali Fri Dec 30, 2011 1:13 am

Devil-Is-Red wrote:
Lex wrote:
Devil-Is-Red wrote:My point is that as of right now, today, Tottenham are the no.1 team in London
And as of right now, today, Manchester City are the best team in Manchester, fact.

Neutrals will agree

I don't understand why you and Ali are being defensive and turning this into a City/Utd comparison.

Last 4 head to heads between the Manc sides reads: 4 games 2 Utd wins and 2 City wins. We're joint top atm (atm being the key words here) We have a better defensive record in the league, whilst they lead in goals scored by 5. They are not better than us, atm it's even.

Now lets get back on topic.

We're not turning it into MC vs Man UTD, we're just using your logic to show you how ridiculous it is ffs

by Mr Nick09 Fri Dec 30, 2011 1:15 am

ali8775 wrote:

We're not turning it into MC vs Man UTD, we're just using your logic to show you how ridiculous it is ffs

Not really, he said league position and recent head to head show they are best.

You tried using the same argument with utd and city, but it's even on the last 4 games, and they are even in the table...

:lucas:

by RED Fri Dec 30, 2011 1:16 am

Ok Ali, can you explain to me why Spurs are not a better team than Arsenal or are not the best team in London this season?

by Ali Fri Dec 30, 2011 1:21 am

St_Nick09_of_Goal wrote:
ali8775 wrote:

We're not turning it into MC vs Man UTD, we're just using your logic to show you how ridiculous it is ffs

Not really, he said league position and recent head to head show they are best.

You tried using the same argument with utd and city, but it's even on the last 4 , and they are even in the table...

:lucas:

All fixtures played this season between those two sides displayed for me please.

Also, judging by the table DURING the season is not an appropriate way of measuring teams, if you recall English_Jewel's mistake earlier this season. Spurs can't keep up this momentum and forum, and you'll see at the end of the season.

by Mr Nick09 Fri Dec 30, 2011 1:23 am

ali8775 wrote:
St_Nick09_of_Goal wrote:
ali8775 wrote:

We're not turning it into MC vs Man UTD, we're just using your logic to show you how ridiculous it is ffs

Not really, he said league position and recent head to head show they are best.

You tried using the same argument with utd and city, but it's even on the last 4 , and they are even in the table...

:lucas:

All fixtures played this season between those two sides displayed for me please.

Also, judging by the table DURING the season is not an appropriate way of measuring teams, if you recall English_Jewel's mistake earlier this season. Spurs can't keep up this momentum and forum, and you'll see at the end of the season.

He said "recent head to heads", not just the league position, that would be silly.

by Ganso Fri Dec 30, 2011 1:24 am

ali8775 wrote:
St_Nick09_of_Goal wrote:
ali8775 wrote:

We're not turning it into MC vs Man UTD, we're just using your logic to show you how ridiculous it is ffs

Not really, he said league position and recent head to head show they are best.

You tried using the same argument with utd and city, but it's even on the last 4 , and they are even in the table...

:lucas:

All fixtures played this season between those two sides displayed for me please.

Also, judging by the table DURING the season is not an appropriate way of measuring teams, if you recall English_Jewel's mistake earlier this season. Spurs can't keep up this momentum and forum, and you'll see at the end of the season.

nice crystal ball you got there Rolling Eyes

by julias Fri Dec 30, 2011 1:24 am

as much as it pains me to say Spurs are better than us right now, they are showing the consistency we used to that and the fact that we havent beaten Spurs in the league for ages

I hope we can turn things around because I would hate for Spurs to finish ahead of us in the table

by RED Fri Dec 30, 2011 1:30 am

Ali, historically, Arsenal are a better team Than Spurs, there is no denying that. But for this season and the way Spurs are flying, you have to be honest and admit they are currently better.

Bale, Lennon, Parker, Modric, Adebayor, Sandro, Walker etc. They have a very strong squad and are winning games this season that in the past, would have drawn or lost.

by Ali Fri Dec 30, 2011 1:31 am

Ganso wrote:
ali8775 wrote:
St_Nick09_of_Goal wrote:
ali8775 wrote:

We're not turning it into MC vs Man UTD, we're just using your logic to show you how ridiculous it is ffs

Not really, he said league position and recent head to head show they are best.

You tried using the same argument with utd and city, but it's even on the last 4 , and they are even in the table...

:lucas:

All fixtures played this season between those two sides displayed for me please.

Also, judging by the table DURING the season is not an appropriate way of measuring teams, if you recall English_Jewel's mistake earlier this season. Spurs can't keep up this momentum and forum, and you'll see at the end of the season.
nice crystal ball you got there

Thanks, you can get one too over here : http://www.crystalcavern.com/ also this one is good : http://www.mysticfamiliar.com/mystic_market/public_html/shop/shop.php?c=viewproduct&pid=35&cat=60&maincat=6&start=0&sid=sid53169bcc2ed0e618e00ab102c37ce98a

by Ali Fri Dec 30, 2011 1:32 am

Devil-Is-Red wrote:Ali, historically, Arsenal are a better team Than Spurs, there is no denying that. But for this season and the way Spurs are flying, you have to be honest and admit they are currently better.

Bale, Lennon, Parker, Modric, Adebayor, Sandro, Walker etc. They have a very strong squad and are winning games this season that in the past, would have drawn or lost.

I'll admit one thing, that they are more on form then us at the moment. I'll even make you a deal, that if by the end of the season, they finish above us, I'll admit they're better then us.

by Dnmac4 Fri Dec 30, 2011 1:48 am

I have no clue why this thread is still going on and why people have such a hard time giving Spurs any credit. Nor do I understand why if one team has better PAST history that has anything to do with who is better RIGHT NOW.

RIGHT NOW City is better then United. They thumped them head to head and are equal in the league but ahead on goal difference. I said earlier in the year that City has the best players in the EPL but I thought United would win the league because they always seem to pull it out no matter what the circumstances are.

With that being said, City are better RIGHT NOW. That doesn't mean it wont change by the end of the year.

RIGHT NOW Spurs are better then Arsenal. They are way ahead of them in the table and beat them head to head. Yes Arsenal has better history but that has nothing to do with anything. Do I think Arsenal will beat out Spurs this year, no and I bet Arsenal fans to this effect.

If Arsenal do beat out Spurs this year will I run around and say Spurs were better, no I will not. There is not one shred of proof that Arsenal are better this year so far at all. And LOL at people bringing up the Champions league, that proves Arsenal were better then Spurs last year which they were, no one is arguing that.

Spurs made some great transfers and loans on the cheap and made there team much better then they were last year. Not to mention they have been pretty healthy this year.

Arsenal have not been healthy and they lost some of there best players and replaced them with good but not better players plus they added a couple players in the offseason to go along with Cesc and Nasri which would have made them very leathal but Cesc and Nasri left.

So in effect Spurs are much better then they were last year and Arsenal is not. Plain and simple.

Can Arsenal pass Spurs this year? YES. And if they do think of how dumb we would sound if we sat here and said despite all the facts Spurs are better. That is how some of you sound.

by RED Fri Dec 30, 2011 1:48 am

Ali, what about right now? that's the point I'm trying to make. We've reached half way through the season now, so I think it's fair to make that judgement that they are presently the 3rd best team in the league.

by El Chelsea Fuerte Fri Dec 30, 2011 2:13 am

ali8775 wrote:Also, judging by the table DURING the season is not an appropriate way of measuring teams, if you recall English_Jewel's mistake earlier this season. Spurs can't keep up this momentum and forum, and you'll see at the end of the season.

What mistake, son?

by Ali Fri Dec 30, 2011 2:26 am

english_jewel wrote:
ali8775 wrote:Also, judging by the table DURING the season is not an appropriate way of measuring teams, if you recall English_Jewel's mistake earlier this season. Spurs can't keep up this momentum and forum, and you'll see at the end of the season.

What mistake, son?

We're battling relegation son

Devil-Is-Red wrote:Ali, what about right now? that's the point I'm trying to make. We've reached half way through the season now, so I think it's fair to make that judgement that they are presently the 3rd best team in the league.

Like I said, they are not better but merely on form.

by RealGunner Fri Dec 30, 2011 2:27 am

let it go ali

tottenham are title contenders, obviously better team than us or chelsea atm. We are battling for 4th

Admit it and move on

by El Chelsea Fuerte Fri Dec 30, 2011 2:34 am

ali8775 wrote:
english_jewel wrote:
ali8775 wrote:Also, judging by the table DURING the season is not an appropriate way of measuring teams, if you recall English_Jewel's mistake earlier this season. Spurs can't keep up this momentum and forum, and you'll see at the end of the season.

What mistake, son?

We're battling relegation son

If you're sixteenth then of course you're battling relegation. I don't see how that can be described as a "mistake". It would had been a 'mistake' if I had said that you'll be battling relegation all season or that you'll get relegated, etc.

by izzy Fri Dec 30, 2011 2:38 am

english_jewel wrote:
ali8775 wrote:
english_jewel wrote:
ali8775 wrote:Also, judging by the table DURING the season is not an appropriate way of measuring teams, if you recall English_Jewel's mistake earlier this season. Spurs can't keep up this momentum and forum, and you'll see at the end of the season.

What mistake, son?

Wow. So at the start of the season, Bolton were title contenders. Also Newcastle. And Villa.
We're battling relegation son

If you're sixteenth then of course you're battling relegation. I don't see how that can be described as a "mistake". It would had been a 'mistake' if I had said that you'll be battling relegation all season or that you'll get relegated, etc.

by CBarca Fri Dec 30, 2011 3:32 am

dnmac4 wrote:I have no clue why this thread is still going on and why people have such a hard time giving Spurs any credit. Nor do I understand why if one team has better PAST history that has anything to do with who is better RIGHT NOW.

RIGHT NOW City is better then United. They thumped them head to head and are equal in the league but ahead on goal difference. I said earlier in the year that City has the best players in the EPL but I thought United would win the league because they always seem to pull it out no matter what the circumstances are.

With that being said, City are better RIGHT NOW. That doesn't mean it wont change by the end of the year.

RIGHT NOW Spurs are better then Arsenal. They are way ahead of them in the table and beat them head to head. Yes Arsenal has better history but that has nothing to do with anything. Do I think Arsenal will beat out Spurs this year, no and I bet Arsenal fans to this effect.

If Arsenal do beat out Spurs this year will I run around and say Spurs were better, no I will not. There is not one shred of proof that Arsenal are better this year so far at all. And LOL at people bringing up the Champions league, that proves Arsenal were better then Spurs last year which they were, no one is arguing that.

Spurs made some great transfers and loans on the cheap and made there team much better then they were last year. Not to mention they have been pretty healthy this year.

Arsenal have not been healthy and they lost some of there best players and replaced them with good but not better players plus they added a couple players in the offseason to go along with Cesc and Nasri which would have made them very leathal but Cesc and Nasri left.

So in effect Spurs are much better then they were last year and Arsenal is not. Plain and simple.

Can Arsenal pass Spurs this year? YES. And if they do think of how dumb we would sound if we sat here and said despite all the facts Spurs are better. That is how some of you sound.

Spurs will overcome Arsenal - Page 8 5008_9c00_420

People don't like Spurs and it's hard to admit success of something you don't like.

by Zealous Fri Dec 30, 2011 1:00 pm

Spurs have always been better than Arsenal. Not just this year but all the years.

(May as well give Arsenal fans the argument they want to have at this point lol)

by Raptorgunner Fri Dec 30, 2011 1:42 pm

Spurs have been playing better than Arsenal because they have a healthy squad and they kept all their players from last year and added 2 good player.

If any team loses as many players as we did in the summer and with all the injuries there is no way they would be competing for the top 4. I am sure we can finish in the top 4 but we need our fullbacks back.

by Emaharg Fri Dec 30, 2011 3:47 pm

Tottenham have no injuries of course they are strong at the moment. Watch Bale or Modric get injured and they will go to crap.

by EarlyPrototype Wed Jan 04, 2012 3:04 pm

Tottenham currently have about 7 injuries lol.

King, Dawson, Sandro, Parker, Lennon, Gallas and Huddleston. They will have to rely on their attack for now.

by iftikhar Wed Jan 04, 2012 3:20 pm

I think Spurs should get credit for their performance. They fared well in CL and are in strong position to qualify for CL again.

by Le Samourai Wed Jan 04, 2012 3:25 pm

Devil-Is-Red wrote:Ali, what about right now? that's the point I'm trying to make. We've reached half way through the season now, so I think it's fair to make that judgement that they are presently the 3rd best team in the league.

Sure.......because if Arsenal reached halfway though the season at the top of the table you'd have no problems labelling them the best team in the leauge. Rolling Eyes

by RealGunner Wed Jan 04, 2012 3:39 pm

spurs are easily the 2nd best team in england.

by Gil Wed Jan 04, 2012 3:47 pm

Think it's time for us to admit they're actually a great team. Wouldn't be surprised if they won the League this season either.

Very attacking and balanced side with no European Competitions to distract them.

If they can keep King, Bale, Modric and Ade fit all season they'll definitely finish in at least a Champions League spot IMO.

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