Re: Kanoute assaulting Fabregas

by harhar11 Sun 23 Oct 2011 - 3:49

punkfusion1992 wrote:
valid point you make there
but the truth is Varas, who having a blinder was much much closer to the ball and wouldnt need much time to gather the ball

No doubt that he was having a blinder but tell me whats easier to score from, an open net or from the spot kick.

Varas was brilliant, but not even he would have been able to save a goal from open net..

by punkfusion1992 Sun 23 Oct 2011 - 3:50

harhar11 wrote:
punkfusion1992 wrote:
valid point you make there
but the truth is Varas, who having a blinder was much much closer to the ball and wouldnt need much time to gather the ball

No doubt that he was having a blinder, but tell me whats easier to score from, an open net or from the sport kick.

Varas was brilliant, but not even he would have been able to save a goal from open net..

Im saying that he would have gathered it before Iniesta had the chance to pass it

by andiii Sun 23 Oct 2011 - 3:50

yea i'm not arguing it anymore. when a players takes 1-2 steps after the tackle then falls down (obviously dives) it's kinda hard to argue otherwise...

by kiranr Sun 23 Oct 2011 - 3:51

Iniesta clearly loses his balance because of the contact. He is not able to bring his left leg forward to continue the run. Anyone calling this a dive is being extremely biased against Barcelona.

Fabregas did say something quite offensive to Kanoute and that is quite obvious. But what is laughable in this entire thread is people calling Kanoute on of the classiest guys who never makes trouble as though he is their first cousin.

There are way too many Madrid fans in this forum. Just look at the number of them calling Barcelona racist, scum etc without any evidence whatsoever. It is really pathetic and some of the comments in here are in extremely bad taste.

by punkfusion1992 Sun 23 Oct 2011 - 3:53

barca 2011 wrote:
punkfusion1992 wrote:
andiii wrote:
harhar11 wrote:
andiii wrote:it's pretty funny reading people saying iniesta didn't dive.... it's at the point now when barca fans have literally forgotten the difference between a legit foul and a dive

There is no contact what-so-ever in here, right?

all you're doing is proving my point basically. contact doesn't mean it's not a dive

to clear it up:

minimal contact > could stay on feet easily > decide to dive anyway = dive

ill tell you what Iniesta was thinking there
he touched the ball a wee bit too hard, it was going towards Varas and thought it was the perfect time to go down under contact and win a penalty
Perhaps. Is he the first footballer to ever do so? NO ONE else has attempted this dastardly act before in the history of the game? It looked legit, but if it wasn't, would you have done otherwise given the circumstances? Honestly?

lol omg I not saying he dived, but it wasnt a penalty
he did what any sane player would have done

by harhar11 Sun 23 Oct 2011 - 3:53

andiii wrote:yea i'm not arguing it anymore. when a players takes 1-2 steps after the tackle then falls down (obviously dives) it's kinda hard to argue otherwise...

The leg that gets hit doesn't actually take another step, though :facepalm:

by harhar11 Sun 23 Oct 2011 - 3:55

punkfusion1992 wrote:
Im saying that he would have gathered it before Iniesta had the chance to pass it

He wouldn't. Look how close the ball is to Iniesta, Iniesta had the ball under control.

by andiii Sun 23 Oct 2011 - 3:56

harhar11 wrote:
andiii wrote:yea i'm not arguing it anymore. when a players takes 1-2 steps after the tackle then falls down (obviously dives) it's kinda hard to argue otherwise...

The leg that gets hit doesn't actually take another step, though

no it kind of does, and it's obvious it could have properly, but he'd already decided to fall down

by punkfusion1992 Sun 23 Oct 2011 - 4:00

harhar11 wrote:
punkfusion1992 wrote:
Im saying that he would have gathered it before Iniesta had the chance to pass it

He wouldn't. Look how close the ball is to Iniesta, Iniesta had the ball under control.

yeah but he would either have to stretch his right leg out and go with the outside of his boot or go with his left which would mean taking another step and Varas getting the ball

look Im not trying to condemn Iniesta for going over, because that would make me a hypocrite, he did what anyother player would have done but then again it wasnt a penalty

by harhar11 Sun 23 Oct 2011 - 4:01

andiii wrote:
harhar11 wrote:
andiii wrote:yea i'm not arguing it anymore. when a players takes 1-2 steps after the tackle then falls down (obviously dives) it's kinda hard to argue otherwise...

The leg that gets hit doesn't actually take another step, though

no it kind of does, and it's obvious it could have properly, but he'd already decided to fall down

So he didn't actually take another one because as you said, he was already falling down.

by kiranr Sun 23 Oct 2011 - 4:03

His left leg was obstructed by the defenders foot from being able to bring it forward which causes him to lose balance. Hence it is a foul.

by harhar11 Sun 23 Oct 2011 - 4:03

punkfusion1992 wrote:
harhar11 wrote:
punkfusion1992 wrote:
Im saying that he would have gathered it before Iniesta had the chance to pass it

He wouldn't. Look how close the ball is to Iniesta, Iniesta had the ball under control.

yeah but he would either have to stretch his right leg out and go with the outside of his boot or go with his left which would mean taking another step and Varas getting the ball

look Im not trying to condemn Iniesta for going over, because that would make me a hypocrite, he did what anyother player would have done but then again it wasnt a penalty

I don't think so, the ball wasn't far enough for him to need to strecth his leg. It only got away from him because he fell down. And anyway why wouldn't he strecth? It aint that hard..

by ToEy Sun 23 Oct 2011 - 4:37

Cant believe some of you guys are that thick, barca haters and defenders alike. Several things are so obvious

1) Iniesta's penalty is as stonewall as it gets, I really dont see how anyone can debate it

2)Cesc did say something of very bad taste to kanoute, it is obvious. Hopefully its not about his religion, but still it is of bad taste

3)Cesc has always been an ass, so arsenal fans that says "oh what did Barca did to you" are just lulzworthy

4)It is really funny that Madrid fans + andiii kept complaining about Barca diving...maybe you guys should look at your own team 1st. Best comeback so far is "im not proud of my team diving but I can still criticise your team for diving", I agree with you, but if thats the case then you should also criticise your team for diving which I dont really see it happening

5)Lastly, whichever barca fans that kept on posting that conspiracy thread, stop it...its not gonna convince anyone of anything. The best thing it could do is to throw whatever accusations Madrid has on Barca about refs out of the window, and thats about it. I dont see the point of wasting you time or my time opening those threads as it is repeative.

Peace all

by Zealous Sun 23 Oct 2011 - 4:52

Iniesta's penalty was so stonewall that the linesman didn't raise his flag Very Happy

Anyway either was the penalty was given.

As for number 4 I'm not sure if you are addressing me but I've called out Madrid players in the past when diving or any other stupid thing happens. I'm obviously biased I won't pretend that I'm not but I like to think I can be objective at times when it is called for.

I agree with the general idea of your post overall though.

by Blue Sun 23 Oct 2011 - 4:55

ragbirjosh wrote:
Blue wrote:
izzy26 wrote:
Blue wrote:LOL at some comments making sound like Csec was some sort of saint when he was with Arsenal. He was a douche then and now you guys are probably realizing it because he plays for Barca.

2007 Carling cup final huh?

Beside that, Csec has always been a diver and whiner.

Well no suprise here ladies and gentlemen.

A Chelsea fan using a Barca incident to deride Cesc Fabregas 7 year Arsenal career.

I have always hated Csec guts, i can't lie about that so there might be some bias Rolling Eyes

. But i am sure even some of the fair minded Arsenal fans would not really surprised by this incident

by FennecFox7 Sun 23 Oct 2011 - 5:38

Mes que un club

by Mia_San_Mia Sun 23 Oct 2011 - 7:28

he was right because it wasn't a penalty *bleep* dived ....and fabregas is a *bleep* ....but at least that was fair messi missed the penalty

by Harmonica Sun 23 Oct 2011 - 7:33

Mia_San_Mia wrote:he was right because it wasn't a penalty *bleep* dived ....and fabregas is a *bleep* ....but at least that was fair messi missed the penalty

Lol @ your sig. Laughing

by Mr_Puyol Sun 23 Oct 2011 - 7:35

Dive and a fab flop,your a grown ass man,show some pride.

by Iceman Sun 23 Oct 2011 - 7:48

I honest;y don't give a rat's backside about this whole Barca vs Madrid mess.

All I know is that I'm extremely disappointed in Cesc. What happened to you?

That is all

by Iceman Sun 23 Oct 2011 - 7:51

Oh, Barca fans want to say that Fabregas was like this all along? lulz

Sure, he was a bit immature at some point but show me a few instances of him being disgraceful or provocative in the past couple of years? Yeah, can't find anything? Thought so...

The ignorance of some people :facepalm:

by Mia_San_Mia Sun 23 Oct 2011 - 7:55

jiopsi wrote:
Mia_San_Mia wrote:he was right because it wasn't a penalty *bleep* dived ....and fabregas is a *bleep* ....but at least that was fair messi missed the penalty
Lol @ your sig.

i don't balme you most of barca fans are glory hunters and have shitty knowledge in football ...i would laugh more on this short biy on your sig when he got pwnd 4-0 in the world cup

by Harmonica Sun 23 Oct 2011 - 7:57

Mia_San_Mia wrote:
jiopsi wrote:
Mia_San_Mia wrote:he was right because it wasn't a penalty *bleep* dived ....and fabregas is a *bleep* ....but at least that was fair messi missed the penalty
Lol @ your sig.

i don't balme you most of barca fans are glory hunters and have shitty knowledge in football ...i would laugh more on this short biy on your sig when he got pwnd 4-0 in the world cup

Why mad? I honestly meant actually the funny facial expression of Kahn's. Laughing

by Mia_San_Mia Sun 23 Oct 2011 - 7:59

jiopsi wrote:
Mia_San_Mia wrote:
jiopsi wrote:
Mia_San_Mia wrote:he was right because it wasn't a penalty *bleep* dived ....and fabregas is a *bleep* ....but at least that was fair messi missed the penalty
Lol @ your sig.

i don't balme you most of barca fans are glory hunters and have shitty knowledge in football ...i would laugh more on this short biy on your sig when he got pwnd 4-0 in the world cup
Why mad? I honestly meant actually the funny facial expression of Kahn's.

THE LION FACE !!!!

by Harmonica Sun 23 Oct 2011 - 7:59

Mia_San_Mia wrote:
jiopsi wrote:
Mia_San_Mia wrote:
jiopsi wrote:
Mia_San_Mia wrote:he was right because it wasn't a penalty *bleep* dived ....and fabregas is a *bleep* ....but at least that was fair messi missed the penalty
Lol @ your sig.

i don't balme you most of barca fans are glory hunters and have shitty knowledge in football ...i would laugh more on this short biy on your sig when he got pwnd 4-0 in the world cup
Why mad? I honestly meant actually the funny facial expression of Kahn's.

THE LION FACE !!!!

Sure.

by alexjanosik Sun 23 Oct 2011 - 9:22

Unbelievable from nick and the hypocritical Stoke fans(and the still bitter Gooners).
Instead of criticizing Kanoute for thuggish behaviour(learned from the retarded thugs at Stoke like Ramos and pepe no doubt) the OP tries to justify it by saying that Fab must have said something distasteful!!!
And a Macsh like transformation.

Take off the Stoke glasses nick.But ofcourse expecting that from a person who supports a gang of retarded thugs(led by Chief thug himself the Special Five) is bit too much I know.

Kanoute was clearly in the wrong.Cesc(as much as I hate him) did nothing wrong.
Kanoute deserves atleast a 5 match ban.

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