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Post by baresi Sun Oct 23, 2011 4:44 pm

Camurrìa.Sto.Stronzo wrote:Nope.
I am convinced

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Post by djfawnz Sun Oct 23, 2011 5:03 pm

sciacca, please dont join the bandweagon now saying this "drama" was the reason or whatever. You are one of the pioneers in this.


It just bazzles me the latest comment ive been reading here from some of the rednecks in theis forum
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Post by baresi Sun Oct 23, 2011 5:11 pm

Galliani hails AC Milan's 4-2-Fantasia
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Source: Football Italia

Milan Vice-President Adriano Galliani is delighted with Leonardo's decision to make the team more attacking, calling his formation a 4-2-Fantasia.

After a terrible start to the season, the Rossoneri have climbed seven places in five games, and now sit two points behind Juventus and seven behind Inter.

Speaking to La Gazzetta dello Sport, Galliani said: “I willingly renew my compliments to Leonardo for having chosen this new formation that I prefer to call a 4-2 and fantasia.

“Behind the numbers we risk losing ourselves. Milan make evaluations judged on the best characteristics of our attacking players.

“I hope we can go far. It's a wonderful Milan to watch and like all the teams who play in this way we create a lot, but take many risks.

“The philosophy is that of winning 4-3 rather than 1-0 just as Silvio Berlusconi has always said. Leonardo is walking in the footsteps of Capello. Both were directors and the club has chosen to focus on them debuting despite general scepticism.

“I hope my friend Leo wins as much as Capello and that within 'many' years he trains Brazil. The players have wedded themselves to his philosophy and everything changed in that by now famous half-time with Roma.”

Asked to reveal what happened, Galliani replied: “Nothing in appearance. But Leonardo decided to change formation and no one breathed a word.”

Finally Galliani somewhat reluctantly gave his prediction for this season.

“I don't know how many points we'll get. I don't love making predictions. But I can assure you that Milan will be there both in Serie A and the Champions League. Milan want to get to the end everywhere,” he concluded.

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Post by tareks Sun Oct 23, 2011 7:07 pm

DeviAngel wrote:as player he was legend so was ciro so no1 stopped stabbing him ( end of that discussion)

Conte sometimes makes mistakes in the subs yes and lacks somewhat tactical view but as motivator he is great.

what I mind about Cotne is the over-rotating and formation changing the team won't gel to good

Finally,someone is putting his emotions aside! :bow:
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Post by DeviAngel Sun Oct 23, 2011 7:11 pm

tareks wrote:
DeviAngel wrote:as player he was legend so was ciro so no1 stopped stabbing him ( end of that discussion)

Conte sometimes makes mistakes in the subs yes and lacks somewhat tactical view but as motivator he is great.

what I mind about Cotne is the over-rotating and formation changing the team won't gel to good

Finally,someone is putting his emotions aside! :bow:

Can you pls explain what you meant ?
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Post by Juventude Sun Oct 23, 2011 7:14 pm

As I posted in another discussion:

Parma W (2011-12 14th, 2010-12 12th)
Siena W (11th, Serie B)
Bologna D (18th, 16th)
Catania D (9th, 13th)
Milan W (7th, 1st)
Chievo D (13th, 11th)
Genoa D (12th, 10th)

Outside of Milan, fairly unimpressive results against unimpressive opponents.

When Conte gets through Fiorentina, Palermo, Napoli, Lazio, and Inter, let's talk about how "well" he's doing.

I will evaluate Conte after this stretch of games. Until then, his evaluation is incomplete.
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Post by DeviAngel Sun Oct 23, 2011 7:18 pm

Juventude wrote:As I posted in another discussion:

Parma W (2011-12 14th, 2010-12 12th)
Siena W (11th, Serie B)
Bologna D (18th, 16th)
Catania D (9th, 13th)
Milan W (7th, 1st)
Chievo D (13th, 11th)
Genoa D (12th, 10th)

Outside of Milan, fairly unimpressive results against unimpressive opponents.

When Conte gets through Fiorentina, Palermo, Napoli, Lazio, and Inter, let's talk about how "well" he's doing.

I will evaluate Conte after this stretch of games. Until then, his evaluation is incomplete.

That constant changing of formations and the subs remind me of Raffa ( Liverpool time when he was 'great') tbh lol but conte is big motivator.

Dunno I don't feel like risking another season knowing that Lippi is out there but lets not get ahead of our self like you said above let us see after that until he is undefeated and we play with % of posession we need and must support Conte .

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Post by tareks Sun Oct 23, 2011 7:23 pm

DeviAngel wrote:
tareks wrote:
DeviAngel wrote:as player he was legend so was ciro so no1 stopped stabbing him ( end of that discussion)

Conte sometimes makes mistakes in the subs yes and lacks somewhat tactical view but as motivator he is great.

what I mind about Cotne is the over-rotating and formation changing the team won't gel to good

Finally,someone is putting his emotions aside! :bow:

Can you pls explain what you meant ?

We all know that he's a legend,as a player!that's why many on this forum are still considering him a legend also as a manager,or are refusing to talk in a negative way on him just for his history!

But you talked APART from his history as player,that's what I meant Thumbs up
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Post by Juventude Sun Oct 23, 2011 7:24 pm

DeviAngel wrote:
Juventude wrote:As I posted in another discussion:

Parma W (2011-12 14th, 2010-12 12th)
Siena W (11th, Serie B)
Bologna D (18th, 16th)
Catania D (9th, 13th)
Milan W (7th, 1st)
Chievo D (13th, 11th)
Genoa D (12th, 10th)

Outside of Milan, fairly unimpressive results against unimpressive opponents.

When Conte gets through Fiorentina, Palermo, Napoli, Lazio, and Inter, let's talk about how "well" he's doing.

I will evaluate Conte after this stretch of games. Until then, his evaluation is incomplete.

That constant changing of formations and the subs remind me of Raffa ( Liverpool time when he was 'great') tbh lol but conte is big motivator.

Dunno I don't feel like risking another season knowing that Lippi is out there but lets not get ahead of our self like you said above let us see after that until he is undefeated and we play with % of posession we need and must support Conte .


Conte's ability to implement a tactical system and control possession are impressive, but poor performing teams can do this and still not have results. Look at a guy like Zeman. Players buy into his system and he produces goals, but he doesn't win anything.

I'm not saying Conte is like Zeman, but until his system and time of possession start yielding more victories, I will wait on deciding whether or not he is the long term option for Juve. These next five games will be very critical and telling of the potential Juventus legacy of Conte the manager.
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Post by JuvenelCuore Sun Oct 23, 2011 7:24 pm

Knowledge is seriously lacking. Dio mio.
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Post by DeviAngel Sun Oct 23, 2011 7:24 pm

tareks wrote:
DeviAngel wrote:
tareks wrote:
DeviAngel wrote:as player he was legend so was ciro so no1 stopped stabbing him ( end of that discussion)

Conte sometimes makes mistakes in the subs yes and lacks somewhat tactical view but as motivator he is great.

what I mind about Cotne is the over-rotating and formation changing the team won't gel to good

Finally,someone is putting his emotions aside! :bow:

Can you pls explain what you meant ?

We all know that he's a legend,as a player!that's why many on this forum are still considering him a legend also as a manager,or are refusing to talk in a negative way on him just for his history!

But you talked APART from his history as player,that's what I meant Thumbs up

oh ok , sorry to ask bro Very Happy ty for the good words Very Happy ...
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Post by Juventude Sun Oct 23, 2011 7:28 pm

JuvenelCuore wrote:Knowledge is seriously lacking. Dio mio.

Oh, your condescension was sorely missed on this board.
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Post by Juventude Sun Oct 23, 2011 7:30 pm

I remember de Laurentiis storming out of the Serie A fixture draw because he thought Napoli got screwed. But Juve should be the ones complaining with Fiorentina, Inter, Napoli, Palermo, and Lazio coming up. That's a disgusting stretch of games.
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Post by DeviAngel Sun Oct 23, 2011 7:30 pm

Juventude wrote:
DeviAngel wrote:
Juventude wrote:As I posted in another discussion:

Parma W (2011-12 14th, 2010-12 12th)
Siena W (11th, Serie B)
Bologna D (18th, 16th)
Catania D (9th, 13th)
Milan W (7th, 1st)
Chievo D (13th, 11th)
Genoa D (12th, 10th)

Outside of Milan, fairly unimpressive results against unimpressive opponents.

When Conte gets through Fiorentina, Palermo, Napoli, Lazio, and Inter, let's talk about how "well" he's doing.

I will evaluate Conte after this stretch of games. Until then, his evaluation is incomplete.

That constant changing of formations and the subs remind me of Raffa ( Liverpool time when he was 'great') tbh lol but conte is big motivator.

Dunno I don't feel like risking another season knowing that Lippi is out there but lets not get ahead of our self like you said above let us see after that until he is undefeated and we play with % of posession we need and must support Conte .


Conte's ability to implement a tactical system and control possession are impressive, but poor performing teams can do this and still not have results. Look at a guy like Zeman. Players buy into his system and he produces goals, but he doesn't win anything.

I'm not saying Conte is like Zeman, but until his system and time of possession start yielding more victories, I will wait on deciding whether or not he is the long term option for Juve. These next five games will be very critical and telling of the potential Juventus legacy of Conte the manager.

I get what you say. Goals win games not possession or shots or passes. That we lack but as I said I agree after the games the tought ones and until jan we need to leave conte alone to see his thoughts and ideas and than judge
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Post by tareks Sun Oct 23, 2011 7:46 pm

DeviAngel wrote:
tareks wrote:
DeviAngel wrote:
tareks wrote:
DeviAngel wrote:as player he was legend so was ciro so no1 stopped stabbing him ( end of that discussion)

Conte sometimes makes mistakes in the subs yes and lacks somewhat tactical view but as motivator he is great.

what I mind about Cotne is the over-rotating and formation changing the team won't gel to good

Finally,someone is putting his emotions aside! :bow:

Can you pls explain what you meant ?

We all know that he's a legend,as a player!that's why many on this forum are still considering him a legend also as a manager,or are refusing to talk in a negative way on him just for his history!

But you talked APART from his history as player,that's what I meant Thumbs up

oh ok , sorry to ask bro Very Happy ty for the good words Very Happy ...

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Post by JuvenelCuore Sun Oct 23, 2011 8:04 pm

:coffee:.
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Post by Camurrìa.Sto.Stronzo Mon Oct 24, 2011 1:33 am

baresi wrote:
Camurrìa.Sto.Stronzo wrote:Nope.
I am convinced

Prove it.

djfawnz wrote:sciacca, please dont join the bandweagon now saying this "drama" was the reason or whatever. You are one of the pioneers in this.


It just bazzles me the latest comment ive been reading here from some of the rednecks in theis forum

Oh yes for sure, this coming from the guy who called Devi a dictator and got the whole section after. Yes, I'm the pioneer of it all. Very odd indeed that when I was gone, there was still drama to begin with. Explain to me how I was the blame of them.
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Post by Camurrìa.Sto.Stronzo Mon Oct 24, 2011 1:34 am

Juventude wrote:I remember de Laurentiis storming out of the Serie A fixture draw because he thought Napoli got screwed. But Juve should be the ones complaining with Fiorentina, Inter, Napoli, Palermo, and Lazio coming up. That's a disgusting stretch of games.

You do know how easy it has been so far for us...?
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Post by JuvenelCuore Mon Oct 24, 2011 1:48 am

Lol @ Djfawnz. The same guy who said he would leave Juventus if a player was not bought. Real good guy to be judging others. :coffee:
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Post by Camurrìa.Sto.Stronzo Mon Oct 24, 2011 3:06 am

I'm always the bad person even when I dont do anything...
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Post by baresi Mon Oct 24, 2011 3:51 pm

Camurrìa.Sto.Stronzo wrote:
baresi wrote:
Camurrìa.Sto.Stronzo wrote:Nope.
I am convinced

Prove it.

Go back to page three and read it there. Embarassed
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Post by Camurrìa.Sto.Stronzo Mon Oct 24, 2011 9:43 pm

Sorry, don't see nothing.
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Post by baresi Mon Oct 24, 2011 9:45 pm

Cant help you on that one.
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Post by Camurrìa.Sto.Stronzo Mon Oct 24, 2011 9:46 pm

baresi wrote:Cant help you on that one.

In conclusion no proof Wink
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Post by baresi Mon Oct 24, 2011 9:59 pm

Camurrìa.Sto.Stronzo wrote:
baresi wrote:Cant help you on that one.

In conclusion no proof Wink

or other posters wil know they are dealing with someone who cant read. :coffee:
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Post by Camurrìa.Sto.Stronzo Mon Oct 24, 2011 10:35 pm

Odd, I'm reading and replying to your post right now. It seems I can read :coffee:
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