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Post by EL Patron Wed Oct 19, 2011 10:33 pm

Sushi Master wrote:Santos will improve with time. It's like his 3rd Arsenal game.

Yeah, he's not solid defensively but I feel he had a good 2nd half.

The Kos-Merts partnership again works out.

Merts is the muscle and Kos the silk. Kos was a total beast.

He just needs to calm down with his dribbling around the edge of the box. the guy tries to nutmeg players around the box Suspect

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Post by RealGunner Wed Oct 19, 2011 10:34 pm

Wonder who will partner Vermaelen ?
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Post by The Verminator Wed Oct 19, 2011 10:36 pm

Dunno why some of ya are saying Santos isn't solid defensively.
Whenever i have seen him play for us, he has looked solid. I thought he did really well. Although i'm a bit afraid that his tendency to try and play his way out of the box could get us into trouble later on.
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Post by Sushi Master Wed Oct 19, 2011 10:36 pm

Has to be Mertesacker. Vermaelen and Kos are too a like to play together.

Merts is just beast to have in set pieces and the like.

Although Vermaelen's good enough to partner anyone.
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Post by EL Patron Wed Oct 19, 2011 10:38 pm

Mertesaker should...Koscielny is just not consistent enough.

He has his days when he is amazing and some days when he doesn't fancy it and just gives up.
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Post by RealGunner Wed Oct 19, 2011 10:38 pm

Santos is extremely cool about everything. Thats the best bit about him, but its bad as well at times

Although he has fitness issues. He is really fat atm
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Post by Eman Wed Oct 19, 2011 10:39 pm

I was already going to miss the first 70 minutes of this game because of school, but then my ride home got delayed. I got home and turned the TV on about 2 seconds before Djourou played that pass. You can all thank me later Wink
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Post by Jay29 Wed Oct 19, 2011 10:46 pm

Updated the first post.

I don't think we can really judge this side's creativity on a game like this. Away games in Europe and generaly tight and cagey affairs and the team was clearly set-up to soak up pressure and counter Marseille.

The thing with Arteta is that he's always played as a deeper playmaker, even during his Everton days. He's rarely played in an AMC role. What he did have was decent acceleation which allowed to get forward effectively, but injuries have hindered that. He's better suited to a deeper role and we shouldn't be relying on him to be the creative hub of the team.

Him playing there is actually benefitting us, because he's disciplined and does the defensive stuff like covering for defenders and getting tackles in quite well.

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Post by The Verminator Wed Oct 19, 2011 10:48 pm

Anyone noticed how all of a sudden around the 70th min our players (e.g. Rosicky) started piling on the pressure? Deliberate tactic by AW?
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Post by RealGunner Wed Oct 19, 2011 10:50 pm

wenger said patience will be key. We started to attack after they brought every single of their CAM. They couldnt counter anymore and Gignac is as slow as Lex at full speed

Wenger is a genius :bow:
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Post by EL Patron Wed Oct 19, 2011 10:52 pm

GoonerJay29 wrote:Updated the first post.

I don't think we can really judge this side's creativity on a game like this. Away games in Europe and generaly tight and cagey affairs and the team was clearly set-up to soak up pressure and counter Marseille.

The thing with Arteta is that he's always played as a deeper playmaker, even during his Everton days. He's rarely played in an AMC role. What he did have was decent acceleation which allowed to get forward effectively, but injuries have hindered that. He's better suited to a deeper role and we shouldn't be relying on him to be the creative hub of the team.

Him playing there is actually benefitting us, because he's disciplined and does the defensive stuff like covering for defenders and getting tackles in quite well.

He reads the game better than Song....impressed by his tackling ability not bad for a creative midfielder
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Post by Jay29 Wed Oct 19, 2011 10:52 pm

The Verminator wrote:Anyone noticed how all of a sudden around the 70th min our players (e.g. Rosicky) started piling on the pressure? Deliberate tactic by AW?

Probably more to do with the team growing in confidence once they realised that Marseille weren't that threatening rather than a delibrate ploy by Wenger.

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Post by lenear1030 Wed Oct 19, 2011 11:03 pm

RealGunner wrote:Santos is extremely cool about everything. Thats the best bit about him, but its bad as well at times

Although he has fitness issues. He is really fat atm


yeah this exactly. he's a tricky mofo too... he'll pull off some skills and make some good runs forward (with much better judgement than gibbs). it really doesnt matter who we play at LB right now both are playing well
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Post by RealGunner Wed Oct 19, 2011 11:05 pm

Ramsey is picking form as well
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Post by SamuelJayC Wed Oct 19, 2011 11:19 pm

Completely agree with the ratings Jay.

Would have given Gervinho 6.5 at least, brought a lot when he came on.

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Post by Sina Wed Oct 19, 2011 11:30 pm

kos had 7 interceptions :bow: MOTM
sanots completed 90% of his passes scratch he was pressed and under pressure esp in 1st half
gervs came on as a substitute but had 2 key passes more than any other gunner on the pitch
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Post by Highburied Wed Oct 19, 2011 11:40 pm

We are in desperate situation for a Free Role playmaker.

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Post by Sina Wed Oct 19, 2011 11:41 pm

when you look at our luck if we win the group which we should milan will suddenly manage to beat barca at san siro and then we will get barcacheats again smoking
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Post by SamuelJayC Wed Oct 19, 2011 11:58 pm

Next 5 Arsenal games: Stoke (h), Bolton (h)- carling cup, Chelsea (a), Marseille (h), West Brom (h)

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Post by SamuelJayC Thu Oct 20, 2011 12:02 am

A chance we will go to Olympiakos on matchday 6 already through, just like in 09/10 when we fielded Bartley, Cruise etc
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Post by SUPERCARTTS Thu Oct 20, 2011 12:31 am

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Sushi Master wrote:Santos will improve with time. It's like his 3rd Arsenal game.

Yeah, he's not solid defensively but I feel he had a good 2nd half.

The Kos-Merts partnership again works out.

Merts is the muscle and Kos the silk. Kos was a total beast.

He just needs to calm down with his dribbling around the edge of the box. the guy tries to nutmeg players around the box Suspect

I bet he nutmegs his team mate at training for fun. I can imagine him proper rubbing it in too lol

Great result though.
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Post by EL Patron Thu Oct 20, 2011 12:45 am

Per Mertesacker - 6. Was very steady, although he was beaten very easily on two ocassions. One-on-one defending against a pacey player is not his forte, it seems.

Laughing

I was laughing when Valbuena skinned him
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Post by lenear1030 Thu Oct 20, 2011 1:17 am

highburied wrote:We are in desperate situation for a Free Role playmaker.



QUOTED FOR EMPHASIS.



And no, it's not Wilshere.
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Post by Raptorgunner Thu Oct 20, 2011 1:55 am

Thank you Ramsey for the last minute joy and Gervinho change the game.
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Post by Twoism Thu Oct 20, 2011 2:10 am

4 bad games in a row for Theo now, I know he might drop form but don't you guys think it's time to give some others a chance, Ox, Ryo, Yossi, Park, somebody else?

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Post by Wilson37 Thu Oct 20, 2011 2:47 am

RealGunner wrote:Wonder who will partner Vermaelen ?
Koscielny without any doubt for me and i think the reason is obvious.. And i saw some1 saying Kos makes mistakes.. Atleast he does something and makes the occasional mistake.. What about Met..?
I think Santos is doing well defensively and i dont think we are missing Clichy this season.. And Arteta is playing too deep while Song is given license to go forward.. I remember the first couple of matches when he took the ball and played.. It looked great.. But he is also defensively very good.. Better than playing Ramsey or Rosicky deep.. So it is really benefiting the team eventhough his assists or goals have come down...
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