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Lazio fans with neonazi banner for Klose
by BAYERN_MUNICH Tue Oct 18, 2011 6:48 pm
Lazio fans showed a banner at the match against AS Rom with the slogan "Klose mit uns" refering to the nazi military slogan "Gott mit uns". The two 's' of the slogan were runic characters like the ones from the 'SS'
What do you think about the Lazio fans, are they known for being neo nazis?
What do you think about the Lazio fans, are they known for being neo nazis?
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Re: Lazio fans with neonazi banner for Klose
by Magricos Tue Oct 18, 2011 6:51 pm
I was surprised it didn't happen sooner.
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Re: Lazio fans with neonazi banner for Klose
by Babun Tue Oct 18, 2011 6:52 pm
There's nothing Neo-Nazi in that banner. I translate it literally to you: KLOSE MIT UNS = Klose is with us / one of usBAYERN_MUNICH wrote:Lazio fans showed a banner at the match against AS Rom with the slogan "Klose mit uns" refering to the nazi military slogan "Gott mit uns". The two 's' of the slogan were runic characters like the ones from the 'SS'
What do you think about the Lazio fans, are they known for being neo nazis?
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Re: Lazio fans with neonazi banner for Klose
by Lord Spencer Tue Oct 18, 2011 6:54 pm
BAYERN_MUNICH wrote:Lazio fans showed a banner at the match against AS Rom with the slogan "Klose mit uns" refering to the nazi military slogan "Gott mit uns". The two 's' of the slogan were runic characters like the ones from the 'SS'
What do you think about the Lazio fans, are they known for being neo nazis?
Lazio Ultras are know for being Fascist sympathizers, and they are showing Klose they like him because of the German connections and the Nazi regime. Although Klose would be by all accounts offended being also Polish.
It is something in the Lazio culture, and Lotito have been combating it for a while now.
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Re: Lazio fans with neonazi banner for Klose
by BAYERN_MUNICH Tue Oct 18, 2011 6:55 pm
babun1024 wrote:There's nothing Neo-Nazi in that banner. I translate it literally to you: KLOSE MIT UNS = Klose is with us / one of usBAYERN_MUNICH wrote:Lazio fans showed a banner at the match against AS Rom with the slogan "Klose mit uns" refering to the nazi military slogan "Gott mit uns". The two 's' of the slogan were runic characters like the ones from the 'SS'
What do you think about the Lazio fans, are they known for being neo nazis?
i think you aren't very familiar with history and allusions.
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Re: Lazio fans with neonazi banner for Klose
by Sushi Master Tue Oct 18, 2011 6:57 pm
Klose's father considers himself more German than Polish, IIRC.
Still, nothing wrong with it apart from being sorta Nazi sympathising. But this is Nazio, so meh.
Still, nothing wrong with it apart from being sorta Nazi sympathising. But this is Nazio, so meh.
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Re: Lazio fans with neonazi banner for Klose
by che Tue Oct 18, 2011 7:08 pm
the irony of using a nazi font on someone who's from poland is apparently lost on nazio fans...
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Re: Lazio fans with neonazi banner for Klose
by Babun Tue Oct 18, 2011 7:08 pm
che wrote:the irony of using a nazi font on someone who's from poland is apparently lost on nazio fans...
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Re: Lazio fans with neonazi banner for Klose
by Seppuku Tue Oct 18, 2011 7:10 pm
Nazi's viewed Poles as racially inferior and suitable for enslavement...so massive luls...
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Re: Lazio fans with neonazi banner for Klose
by ImAbackBone Tue Oct 18, 2011 7:14 pm
... and killed them in droves.Seppuku wrote:Nazi's viewed Poles as racially inferior and suitable for enslavement...so massive luls...
This is quiet despicable in my eyes.
Klose would be offended by this. I am sure.
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Re: Lazio fans with neonazi banner for Klose
by Lord Spencer Tue Oct 18, 2011 7:14 pm
che wrote:the irony of using a nazi font on someone who's from poland is apparently lost on nazio fans...
What do you expect from Ultras who are fascists "for the lulz"
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Re: Lazio fans with neonazi banner for Klose
by TheBlueArmy Tue Oct 18, 2011 7:32 pm
Correct me if I'm wrong, but Klose plays on the GERMAN, not polish national team, and he has a GERMAN, not polish citizenship. Please don't call Klose polish, because THAT would offend him...
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Re: Lazio fans with neonazi banner for Klose
by BAYERN_MUNICH Tue Oct 18, 2011 7:39 pm
TheBlueArmy wrote:Correct me if I'm wrong, but Klose plays on the GERMAN, not polish national team, and he has a GERMAN, not polish citizenship. Please don't call Klose polish, because THAT would offend him...
no it would'nt ... he always says how proud he is about his polish roots, he speaks the language perfectly ,also often with Podolski, and has many family members there.
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Re: Lazio fans with neonazi banner for Klose
by TheBlueArmy Tue Oct 18, 2011 7:55 pm
BAYERN_MUNICH wrote:TheBlueArmy wrote:Correct me if I'm wrong, but Klose plays on the GERMAN, not polish national team, and he has a GERMAN, not polish citizenship. Please don't call Klose polish, because THAT would offend him...
no it would'nt ... he always says how proud he is about his polish roots, he speaks the language perfectly ,also often with Podolski, and has many family members there.
Proud of his roots doesn't make him want to be called polish.. I don't want to be called canadian, but I live here.
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Re: Lazio fans with neonazi banner for Klose
by Be/\/ceCALI Tue Oct 18, 2011 8:00 pm
TheBlueArmy wrote:Correct me if I'm wrong, but Klose plays on the GERMAN, not polish national team, and he has a GERMAN, not polish citizenship. Please don't call Klose polish, because THAT would offend him...
I don't see why Klose would be ashamed of his POLISH heritage? A German citizenship and playing for Germany still does not make him German by blood.
I'm Hungarian and have lived in the USA since I was 4, but I would be offended if people were to disregard my fully Hungarian blood and label me as solely American. Just my 2 cents.
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Re: Lazio fans with neonazi banner for Klose
by TheBlueArmy Tue Oct 18, 2011 8:06 pm
Be/\/ceCALI wrote:TheBlueArmy wrote:Correct me if I'm wrong, but Klose plays on the GERMAN, not polish national team, and he has a GERMAN, not polish citizenship. Please don't call Klose polish, because THAT would offend him...
I don't see why Klose would be ashamed of his POLISH heritage? A German citizenship and playing for Germany still does not make him German by blood.
I'm Hungarian and have lived in the USA since I was 4, but I would be offended if people were to disregard my fully Hungarian blood and label me as solely American. Just my 2 cents.
Calling someone polish, who has german citizenship, is not the same as saying someone has polish roots...
If I were to go to klose and be like "hey, your polish" he would be like "No, I';m german, with polish roots" see the difference?
I'm German and hungarian, but live in Canada. I consider myself german because both my parents have german citizenship, and so do I. if someone would call me canadian, I would be like "no, i'm german living in canada" or, if someone called me hungarian, I would say "no, I'm german, with hungarian roots"
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Re: Lazio fans with neonazi banner for Klose
by Be/\/ceCALI Tue Oct 18, 2011 8:19 pm
TheBlueArmy wrote: Calling someone polish, who has german citizenship, is not the same as saying someone has polish roots...
If I were to go to klose and be like "hey, your polish" he would be like "No, I';m german, with polish roots" see the difference?
I'm German and hungarian, but live in Canada. I consider myself german because both my parents have german citizenship, and so do I. if someone would call me canadian, I would be like "no, i'm german living in canada" or, if someone called me hungarian, I would say "no, I'm german, with hungarian roots"
Yeah, I see what you're saying. I guess we'd just have to ask Klose himself because i'm not sure I agree with you that he'd respond "No, I'm German with Polish roots". I think he would say, "I'm Polish with German citizenship"
I'm a US and Hungarian citizen, but if someone called me an American, they'd be right, but I would always correct them with "Hungarian-American" as I still feel very attached to Hungary.
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Re: Lazio fans with neonazi banner for Klose
by white_star Tue Oct 18, 2011 9:09 pm
TheBlueArmy wrote:Correct me if I'm wrong, but Klose plays on the GERMAN, not polish national team, and he has a GERMAN, not polish citizenship. Please don't call Klose polish, because THAT would offend him...
You obviously don't know anything about him so leave comments like that out, he is German but still proud that he was born in Poland, he never said hates his heritage!
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Re: Lazio fans with neonazi banner for Klose
by TheBlueArmy Tue Oct 18, 2011 9:41 pm
white_star wrote:TheBlueArmy wrote:Correct me if I'm wrong, but Klose plays on the GERMAN, not polish national team, and he has a GERMAN, not polish citizenship. Please don't call Klose polish, because THAT would offend him...
You obviously don't know anything about him so leave comments like that out, he is German but still proud that he was born in Poland, he never said hates his heritage!
So you would call him polish, even though he's not? :lol!:
he has polish roots, but he's german
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Re: Lazio fans with neonazi banner for Klose
by Guiltybystander Tue Oct 18, 2011 9:48 pm
He has enough polish roots for it to be ironic.
He is German, but not an Aryan for all it's worth.
Also, Babun, you sure you're german? what a fail.
He is German, but not an Aryan for all it's worth.
Also, Babun, you sure you're german? what a fail.
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Re: Lazio fans with neonazi banner for Klose
by Lord Spencer Tue Oct 18, 2011 9:50 pm
Klose is a first generation German-Polish, so I would bet he would still identify with his Polish side (such as refusing to celebrate when scoring against them) as most first generation immigrants do.
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Re: Lazio fans with neonazi banner for Klose
by white_star Tue Oct 18, 2011 10:25 pm
Exactly he is Polish and proud of it!! He was born in Poland then came to Germany got a citizenship and chose to play for Germany because he had mor chances of winning something!! It's called dual citizenship, lots of the German national team is made up of people born in different countries or have different heritage, he views himself as a pole and he is!
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Re: Lazio fans with neonazi banner for Klose
by Magricos Tue Oct 18, 2011 10:37 pm
Why would he be offended with being called Polish when it's his birthplace.
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Re: Lazio fans with neonazi banner for Klose
by Magricos Tue Oct 18, 2011 10:38 pm
He said he it's best for him to be called European though.
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Re: Lazio fans with neonazi banner for Klose
by TheBlueArmy Tue Oct 18, 2011 11:44 pm
white_star wrote:Exactly he is Polish and proud of it!! He was born in Poland then came to Germany got a citizenship and chose to play for Germany because he had mor chances of winning something!! It's called dual citizenship, lots of the German national team is made up of people born in different countries or have different heritage, he views himself as a pole and he is!
um... dual citizenship is when you have 2 citizenship's. Klose only has 1 citizenship, and its german. it's fairly difficult to get a dual citizenship in germany. If he felt polish, he would be playing for poland, not germany
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