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Post by urbaNRoots on January 26th 2020, 12:14

When was the last time Barca appointed someone who actually had a history of success in first team football and the arguments for him didn't rely on "tiki taka football", "Barca DNA" and other arbritary stuff?

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Post by rincon on January 26th 2020, 12:31

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Post by urbaNRoots on January 26th 2020, 12:40

@rincon wrote:Valverde


Valverde didn't have a history success though, and had the "Barca DNA" as he played for Barcelona as a player, even if his football didn't translate to that.

My question is why select this bum that they have now over someone like Allegri who is a proven successful manager? Is having Barca DNA and playing tiki taka all it takes to manage this massive club? I expect this kind of nonsense from clubs like Arsenal who have nothing else to offer to fans but Barcelona should be looking to get the best managers that are available.

But then apparently this is what the majority of Barca fans wanted so maybe the club did it right.
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Post by halamadrid2 on January 26th 2020, 12:59

Barca are always picky with who they appoint. Makes their managerial pool very small. Barca would never go out and buy Mourinho for example (not this washed out version), they instead went for an inexperienced coach from within. Allegri isn't even in the discussion for them. It leaves them with coaches who've achieved nothing in their careers, who they appoint because they prefer keeping the ball instead of giving it away and hitting teams on the counter every now and again.


They'll probably get De Boer next who too will get found out while the likes of Allegri will wonder what if. Ok defensive coaches like him isn't an appealing choice but when you're up against a wall that's the best choice short term. We got Mourinho even after his team registered 10% possession just because of his winning mentality at the time

Perez had no problems appointing him again or Allegri if he could no get ZZ back eventhough no player likes them when again it looked like we had hit rock bottom

Bartomeu needs to be ruthless with these primadonnas. There has to be some level of autonomy from him. I feel like he's got no idea who to appoint and just wings it. This appointment reeked of desperation. Instead of waiting till the summer to get their beloved Pep back they went with this short term option, appointing a guy who has no problems losing as long as he has the most possession. At least if you're going for a short term option get a guy like Conte who can shake things up instead of a guy toeing the line achieving nothing apart from embarrassment

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Post by danyjr on January 26th 2020, 13:28

Calling them "picky" makes them sound like they know exactly what they want and what they are doing. But is that the case? The current Barcelona board are not from a footballing background, Fartomeu's understanding of football is on par with Ed Woodward and Daniel Levy, they go after names and Flavour of the Month coaches and players. Tata Martino, Valverde and Setién are great examples of this. Not that Laporta was a footballing person, but he had great advisers who understood the club and how they wanted to play. In fact Laporta was consulted in all footballing matters first by Begiristain and the legend Cruyff himself and some would even go as far as saying the Dutchman had the final word on transfers and coach selection (Rijkaard and Guardiola were both Cruyff's idea).

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Post by Myesyats on January 26th 2020, 14:06

@urbaNRoots wrote:
But then apparently this is what the majority of Barca fans wanted so maybe the club did it right.

No it isn't, in a poll last month 80% voted against Valverde remaining as manager for another season but most voted for Klopp as replacement among Koeman, Guardiola, Ten Hag, Roberto Martinez and Roberto Moreno (don't even know who that is).

But Setien was hardly even considered.
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Post by urbaNRoots on January 26th 2020, 15:22

@Myesyats wrote:
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But then apparently this is what the majority of Barca fans wanted so maybe the club did it right.

No it isn't, in a poll last month 80% voted against Valverde remaining as manager for another season but most voted for Klopp as replacement among Koeman, Guardiola, Ten Hag, Roberto Martinez and Roberto Moreno (don't even know who that is).

But Setien was hardly even considered.

Fair enough, I was basing it on that futbol post. I hope Barca fans get their wish and appoint a manager who is more suited to the clubs stature.
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Post by Doc on January 26th 2020, 16:20

I highly doubt Barca fans, despite their disdain for Valverde, wanted him gone in the middle of the season so this is pretty much the Barca board being, well, kinda dumb.

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Post by BarcaLearning on January 26th 2020, 19:03

We mostly wanted Valverde gone in the summer which didnt happen. We certainly didnt want him to be fired in such bad timing, and finally to hire some mid team chess playing coach who looks like turning out to be a disaster to truly mark the end of our era.

Had to happen sometime and somehow and we are just seeing it now Razz
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Post by Myesyats on January 26th 2020, 20:15

Hey BarcaLearning how are China dealing with the virus? Is there something the government inst telling us?

Sorry for being so straightforward hmm
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Post by danyjr on January 26th 2020, 21:44

Yes please. I'm going to Beijing in 3 weeks. Don't want my mom to receive my corpse.

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Post by Myesyats on January 26th 2020, 22:40

ffs are you mad

Don't go there!!!
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Post by danyjr on January 26th 2020, 23:36

Friend's wedding and I'm best man so kinda have to go Laughing

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Post by Casciavit on January 27th 2020, 18:48

Barca fans truly the bottom pile of fans in sports. It’s his third game ffs. You guys deserve nothing good.

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Post by Myesyats on January 27th 2020, 19:02

Real Betis are willing to let go of their striker Loren Moron for 30 million euros. He's an option for Barcelona. [el desmarque]

Is this what we deserve???? Worst board of directors in the entire sport.
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Post by Thimmy on January 27th 2020, 19:03

Is his last name actually Moron, or was that a typo? hmm

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Post by Myesyats on January 27th 2020, 19:14

Its not a typo, he IS a Moron!!
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Post by halamadrid2 on January 27th 2020, 19:18

No, it is Moron Laughing

Rodrigo was never going to move if Barca didn't pay for him upright. Imagine the shit Lim would get if he let him go on loan and Valencia totally collapsed. 4th spot is there for the taking. Their players have already voiced their displeasure with putting Rodrigo on the market

Auba's price is out of Barcas price tenta given the fact they need a short term solution. And Maxi who Barca wanted last season is also at Valencia who will cost more than Rodrigo given his age.

Lautaro would be a good long term purchase but with Juves loss and Eriksen arriving Inter cant afford to lose players

That leaves Barca with these no name LaLiga strikers as stop gap. I doubt Moron would play as a starter. Imagine that Laughing

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Post by halamadrid2 on January 27th 2020, 19:22

So Setien gave Barca a day off today. Well that was quick Laughing

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Post by Thimmy on January 27th 2020, 19:29

Moron would probably show up for training on their day off Laughing

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Post by danyjr on January 27th 2020, 20:22

Anil Murthy, president of Valencia is in Barcelona.

If this happens, it is another clusterfuck panic of a purchase by the incompetent Barça board Laughing They could have signed Icardi in the summer and didn't, one would just wait a few more months and sign El Toro Martínez in the summer. Besides it should be common knowledge now that left footed players don't fare well with Messi playing. I know because Dybala, di María etc failed at NT as they just get in Messi's way (and Griezmann).

Rodrigo may be more of a central player but he always drifts to the right to get space and cut inwards on his left foot. He will clash with coachessi and benched in no time.

Also imagine 3 left footers up front rofl

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Post by Myesyats on January 27th 2020, 20:34

You couldn't make this up. If they pay 30M for Rodrigo mid-season, I'm so done....
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Post by Cruijf on January 28th 2020, 18:14

The hilarious thing is if they had used the Grizzy money to buy Martinez in the summer they would never have had this problem Laughing

And unlike Griezmann Martinez is exactly the type of player Barca need.

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Post by Mr Nick09 on January 28th 2020, 23:27

@Cruijf wrote:The hilarious thing is if they had used the Grizzy money to buy Martinez in the summer they would never have had this problem Laughing

And unlike Griezmann Martinez is exactly the type of player Barca need.
spending 110 millions on Martinez last summer would have been silly though, specially when we were looking at a picture where Suarez was the number 9 and not injured.

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Post by BarcaLearning on January 29th 2020, 03:26

About the virus, the government is much improved in telling the truth nowadays in the develops of it, plus anything that they try to hide the social media pretty much covers them so pretty much everything is known. As long as you guys are not going to the Hubei province you should be fine, since thats the origin and they are blocking ppl from going in and off of there.

Thing to note is though many places in China I think if not most are making ppl wear face mask mandatory now, but because of the huge sudden demand and the fact its the CNY holiday (factories and supply chain are closed) means its very hard to buy any, there is a huge shortage. Thats China for ya, its a fuking pain living here at times lol.

If u decide to come here I dont think it would be an enjoyable time atm, nobody is going out and ppl are fearful....
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Post by futbol on January 29th 2020, 13:46

Where do you live in China, BarcaLearning?

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