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Post by Interista809 Wed Sep 14, 2011 4:34 am

Rafael Benitez :facepalm:
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Post by red&blacklegion Wed Sep 14, 2011 4:58 am

I think Rafa is a sore loser,he couldnt even beat mid-table teams with the team that had won the CL the previous year!Serie A aint fast but its very tactical(what Rafa has no clue about)!
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Post by Red Alert Wed Sep 14, 2011 5:46 am

red&blacklegion wrote:I think Rafa is a sore loser,he couldnt even beat mid-table teams with the team that had won the CL the previous year!Serie A aint fast but its very tactical(what Rafa has no clue about)!

I don't really care about Inter, but that's absurd. Just because he didn't too well with you guys, does not make him a "sore loser." In fact, Mou is probably the biggest "sore loser" out there today.
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Post by El Chelsea Fuerte Wed Sep 14, 2011 5:54 am

The fact that he's unemployed says it all.

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Post by Red Alert Wed Sep 14, 2011 5:55 am

It really doesn't.
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Post by Eivindo Wed Sep 14, 2011 5:58 am

Poor kid doesnt know sh1t about football, only had a Liverpool with great players at a great age like 7 years ago. (and Gerrard the one man army) If Benitez say that Serie A is well below the other leagues he is obviously just trolling just because he got his arse sacked and Inter didnt even trust him with transfers lol. Seriously pathetic.
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Post by Mr Nick09 Wed Sep 14, 2011 6:00 am

i guess that puts him in the same category as Ancelotti. Let's see who else is unemployed, hmmmm Van Gal? crap manager too
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Post by El Chelsea Fuerte Wed Sep 14, 2011 6:01 am

ynwa wrote:It really doesn't.

Why do you Liverpool fans keep defending him?

He is a good manager no doubt, but no more than that.

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Post by Red Alert Wed Sep 14, 2011 6:02 am

Eivindo wrote:Poor kid doesnt know sh1t about football, only had a Liverpool with great players at a great age like 7 years ago. (and Gerrard the one man army) If Benitez say that Serie A is well below the other leagues he is obviously just trolling just because he got his arse sacked and Inter didnt even trust him with transfers lol. Seriously pathetic.

Houllier left him the best team in the world am I right?!

:facepalm:

And let me get this staright. He flopped in 6 months in Italy and now "doesnt know sh1t about football"??!
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Post by Mr Nick09 Wed Sep 14, 2011 6:03 am

Eivindo wrote:Poor kid doesnt know sh1t about football, only had a Liverpool with great players at a great age like 7 years ago. (and Gerrard the one man army) If Benitez say that Serie A is well below the other leagues he is obviously just trolling just because he got his arse sacked and Inter didnt even trust him with transfers lol. Seriously pathetic.

yh because going toe to toe with Real and Barcelona and beat them counts for nothing right? soiunds very pathetic indeed...

why attack the character of the man? is that because there is no argument to defend the league? he is just a pundit at this point, and a very involved one, stop hiding insecurity by attacking his career ffs, he is a great coach.
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Post by Eivindo Wed Sep 14, 2011 6:04 am

BeautifulGame wrote:
Lord Spencer wrote:
Sepi wrote:
Lord Spencer wrote:This guy makes general assumptions that you can't argue given their generality. If Serie A is so far behind the EPL then why did he go there, and why didn't he win the league.

Riding on a 2005 CL win that is due to 6 minutes of madness and a Dudek that played the game of his life.

*bleep* Bollocks. Just feck off with discrediting that amazing achievement.

We beat a very strong Leverkusen team...Juve under Capello, Chelsea under Mou, and AC Milan with load of star players under Carlo...and the only thing people remember is 6 minutes of madness.

In this world when coaches need perfect players...we won a CL with Djimi Traore at left back, went back to a final 2 years after, would have been 3 final in 4 years, had it not been for freakiest own goal of all time

Won at Bernabeu, Camp Nou, Meazza, etc.....yet all people remember is those 6 minutes.


Because if it was not for those minutes and Dudek you would not have won that CL. Seriously, the end products is what gives value to the equation. And I did not undermine the achievement of Liverpool, but the involvement of him on that Achievement. It was his first season, and it was the players that carried the games.

It was a semi-mythical tale. Which is why I believe Benitez was as much a spectator as the fans.

If Benitez hadnt changed the system and introduced smicer and plugged the hole in midfield we would never have won.

Ofcourse its a mythical tale suddenly Kaka who was so effective in first half suddenly became invisible in second.Nothing to do with tactical changes of Benitez.

Or the tactical changes of Gerrard diving to a penalty and Liverpool got completely obsessed after that.
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Post by Red Alert Wed Sep 14, 2011 6:05 am

english_jewel wrote:
ynwa wrote:It really doesn't.

Why do you Liverpool fans keep defending him?

He is a good manager no doubt, but no more than that.

Just sick of ignorant *bleep* not knowing crap and then stating their opinion as fact. :coffee:
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Post by Lord Spencer Wed Sep 14, 2011 6:05 am

Ancellotti had one of the best squads from 03-07, and yet failed to win the league more than once.

While his CL results were outstanding, his losses when he lost were complete tactical mistakes.

Underestimating Depor and then Milan getting their ass handed to them.
Refusing to sit in a victorious note at 05.
The Barca game where he put too much focus on Ronaldinho.
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Post by Eivindo Wed Sep 14, 2011 6:05 am

St_Nick09_of_Goal wrote:
Eivindo wrote:Poor kid doesnt know sh1t about football, only had a Liverpool with great players at a great age like 7 years ago. (and Gerrard the one man army) If Benitez say that Serie A is well below the other leagues he is obviously just trolling just because he got his arse sacked and Inter didnt even trust him with transfers lol. Seriously pathetic.

yh because going toe to toe with Real and Barcelona and beat them counts for nothing right? soiunds very pathetic indeed...

why attack the character of the man? is that because there is no argument to defend the league? he is just a pundit at this point, and a very involved one, stop hiding insecurity by attacking his career ffs, he is a great coach.

If he is a great coach, he would be coaching a great club. Im sure he will be trusted by a big club again (not)
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Post by Red Alert Wed Sep 14, 2011 6:06 am

Eivindo wrote:Or the tactical changes of Gerrard diving to a penalty and Liverpool got completely obsessed after that.

Just... :facepalm: :facepalm: :facepalm: :facepalm:

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Post by Mr Nick09 Wed Sep 14, 2011 6:08 am

Eivindo wrote:
St_Nick09_of_Goal wrote:
Eivindo wrote:Poor kid doesnt know sh1t about football, only had a Liverpool with great players at a great age like 7 years ago. (and Gerrard the one man army) If Benitez say that Serie A is well below the other leagues he is obviously just trolling just because he got his arse sacked and Inter didnt even trust him with transfers lol. Seriously pathetic.

yh because going toe to toe with Real and Barcelona and beat them counts for nothing right? soiunds very pathetic indeed...

why attack the character of the man? is that because there is no argument to defend the league? he is just a pundit at this point, and a very involved one, stop hiding insecurity by attacking his career ffs, he is a great coach.

If he is a great coach, he would be coaching a great club. Im sure he will be trusted by a big club again (not)

This is such a ridiculous argument, is this the kind of logic we are coming down to on this forum?
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Post by Nishankly Wed Sep 14, 2011 6:09 am

Lord Spencer wrote:
Riding on a 2005 CL win that is due to 6 minutes of madness and a Dudek that played the game of his life.

I lol'ed.
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Post by Red Alert Wed Sep 14, 2011 6:10 am

St_Nick09_of_Goal wrote:
This is such a ridiculous argument, is this the kind of logic we are coming down to on this forum?

Have you been living under a rock Nick? It's always been like this. Rolling Eyes
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Post by El Chelsea Fuerte Wed Sep 14, 2011 6:11 am

Lord Spencer wrote:Ancellotti had one of the best squads from 03-07, and yet failed to win the league more than once.

While his CL results were outstanding, his losses when he lost were complete tactical mistakes.

Underestimating Depor and then Milan getting their ass handed to them.
Refusing to sit in a victorious note at 05.
The Barca game where he put too much focus on Ronaldinho.

Not to mention his complete tactical fails against Man Utd and Inter Milan, losing back to back games in each.

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Post by Eivindo Wed Sep 14, 2011 6:12 am

St_Nick09_of_Goal wrote:
Eivindo wrote:
St_Nick09_of_Goal wrote:
Eivindo wrote:Poor kid doesnt know sh1t about football, only had a Liverpool with great players at a great age like 7 years ago. (and Gerrard the one man army) If Benitez say that Serie A is well below the other leagues he is obviously just trolling just because he got his arse sacked and Inter didnt even trust him with transfers lol. Seriously pathetic.

yh because going toe to toe with Real and Barcelona and beat them counts for nothing right? soiunds very pathetic indeed...

why attack the character of the man? is that because there is no argument to defend the league? he is just a pundit at this point, and a very involved one, stop hiding insecurity by attacking his career ffs, he is a great coach.

If he is a great coach, he would be coaching a great club. Im sure he will be trusted by a big club again (not)

This is such a ridiculous argument, is this the kind of logic we are coming down to on this forum?

Ofc. What do you expect at a forum like this? Its for people with strong opinions and sometimes trolling is implemented. (specially when Im sleepy)

Dont blame the playa, blame the game, son.
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Post by RedOranje Wed Sep 14, 2011 6:15 am

Admitting to trolling is basically asking a cop if he'd like to snort cocaine off your uncovered privates...
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Post by El Chelsea Fuerte Wed Sep 14, 2011 6:17 am

St_Nick09_of_Goal wrote:i guess that puts him in the same category as Ancelotti. Let's see who else is unemployed, hmmmm Van Gal? crap manager too

I'm not saying he's crap. :facepalm:

He's good, but not one of the best. Incidentally same as Van Gaal and arguably Ancelloti (IF you want to rebuild a new side, but great if you want success from a already established side, although sometimes his tactics are questionable. However as an overall manager it's important you are good in both.) now that you mentioned.

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Post by Mr Nick09 Wed Sep 14, 2011 6:21 am

Eivindo wrote:
St_Nick09_of_Goal wrote:
Eivindo wrote:
St_Nick09_of_Goal wrote:
Eivindo wrote:Poor kid doesnt know sh1t about football, only had a Liverpool with great players at a great age like 7 years ago. (and Gerrard the one man army) If Benitez say that Serie A is well below the other leagues he is obviously just trolling just because he got his arse sacked and Inter didnt even trust him with transfers lol. Seriously pathetic.

yh because going toe to toe with Real and Barcelona and beat them counts for nothing right? soiunds very pathetic indeed...

why attack the character of the man? is that because there is no argument to defend the league? he is just a pundit at this point, and a very involved one, stop hiding insecurity by attacking his career ffs, he is a great coach.

If he is a great coach, he would be coaching a great club. Im sure he will be trusted by a big club again (not)

This is such a ridiculous argument, is this the kind of logic we are coming down to on this forum?

Ofc. What do you expect at a forum like this? Its for people with strong opinions and sometimes trolling is implemented. (specially when Im sleepy)

Dont blame the playa, blame the game, son.

yh, say something stupid and blame it on trolling and being sleepy, very original
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Post by Lord Spencer Wed Sep 14, 2011 6:22 am

If I think Ancellotti is an average coach, I would obviously think Rafa to be an average coach.

If Liverpool had a better coach than Rafa, they would have probably won the 07 CL because Ancelotti is an idiot. And would probably have had at least one EPL title.

These if arguments unfortunately cannot be tested. But apparently, I am the only one who thinks that the 05-08 Liverpool team to be world class. Everyone else thinks Rafa overachieved with those guys.
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Post by Mr Nick09 Wed Sep 14, 2011 6:23 am

english_jewel wrote:
St_Nick09_of_Goal wrote:i guess that puts him in the same category as Ancelotti. Let's see who else is unemployed, hmmmm Van Gal? crap manager too

I'm not saying he's crap. :facepalm:

He's good, but not one of the best. Incidentally same as Van Gaal and arguably Ancelloti (IF you want to rebuild a new side, but great if you want success from a already established side, although sometimes his tactics are questionable. However as an overall manager it's important you are good in both.) now that you mentioned.

In what world exactly do some of the managers that define some era or periods in football are called "good"?

Harry Redknapp is a good manager, Didier Deschamps or Rudi Garcia are very good managers, but those guys are monsters, football greats.

you guys are tripping


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