Poli completes Inter loan

As expected, Inter have announced the loan capture of Italian Under-21 international Andrea Poli.

It emerged over the weekend that the Sampdoria midfielder was on his way and the move has been completed on Monday.

The 22-year-old will spend the next 12 months with the Nerazzurri, at the end of which the club will have the option to buy him outright.

Poli has penned a five-year deal with Inter which will become effective should the giants decide to keep him in 2012.

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This move is going to anger a lot of people, me included.

Poli would be the perfect vice-Pirlo. In Conte's system, you need a regista to start the attack. If Pirlo gets injured, who would do that? Vidal is not a regista, he can be put in that position, but he is not going to excel at it.

I am still wondering how our midfielders are going to line up. If we are indeed playing a 4-2-4, then one of Vidal/Marchisio must be a bench warmer. Who will it be? And why should one of them sit on the bench? It is not like we have world class players in our lineup playing ahead of them.

I guess we will find out the answer to these questions whenever the first game gets started, but in any event going into the season without a vice-Pirlo is a big mistake and is going to come back and bite both Marotta and Conte in the ass.

I'm not too worried about not having a substitute regista. Juventus has played without a regista in past successful seasons. Having a regista like Pirlo is a luxury, it's not the norm. When he comes off, Juve will just have to adjust and play a different style.

You can have a successful midfield by having solid central midfielders and great wings. Teams cannot wait for a great regista to come along to be successful. Look at the 2004/05 and 2005/06 teams for Juventus. There was no true regista, but there were good wing style players in Nedved and Camoranesi and solid midfielders with players like Emerson and Vieira.

For me, it just would have been nice to have a talent like Poli in a Juventus shirt.

juve_gigi wrote:Poli would be the perfect vice-Pirlo. In Conte's system, you need a regista to start the attack. If Pirlo gets injured, who would do that? Vidal is not a regista, he can be put in that position, but he is not going to excel at it.

I am still wondering how our midfielders are going to line up. If we are indeed playing a 4-2-4, then one of Vidal/Marchisio must be a bench warmer. Who will it be? And why should one of them sit on the bench? It is not like we have world class players in our lineup playing ahead of them.

I guess we will find out the answer to these questions whenever the first game gets started, but in any event going into the season without a vice-Pirlo is a big mistake and is going to come back and bite both Marotta and Conte in the ass.

It is going to be Vidal on the bench at this point.
Marchisio has partnered Pirlo more and more in recent times and their partnership will only grow stronger.
Vidal has been used in a number of positions, he will be an important player and he will end up cracking the starting 11 but I believe he will start off on the bench.

Juventude wrote:I'm not too worried about not having a substitute regista. Juventus has played without a regista in past successful seasons. Having a regista like Pirlo is a luxury, it's not the norm. When he comes off, Juve will just have to adjust and play a different style.

You can have a successful midfield by having solid central midfielders and great wings. Teams cannot wait for a great regista to come along to be successful. Look at the 2004/05 and 2005/06 teams for Juventus. There was no true regista, but there were good wing style players in Nedved and Camoranesi and solid midfielders with players like Emerson and Vieira.

For me, it just would have been nice to have a talent like Poli in a Juventus shirt.

I could be wrong but I am of the opinion that the 4-2-4 can only work properly if you have a regista starting the attack. If both wingers are playing up high then who is going to get them the ball? In a 4-4-2, you don't need a regista as the wingers are supporting the midfielders, but in a 4-2-4, the 2 midfielders are all alone and you need at least one of them who can distribitute the ball to the wingers and forwards. But I could be wrong on how all this works, but that is my interpretation of Conte's system.

As for our previous teams, Nedved was a trequartista as much as a winger, he basically replaced Zidane, so he was the ball distributor. We never played a 4-2-4 back then, so we had alot of help in midfield and never really needed a regista. Also, our midfield back then was world class, so we were not reliant just on one player to distribute the ball and make our offense tick. We had lots of great ball handlers back then, even up front, so no real need for a pure regista like Pirlo.

When you have Del Piero in his prime and Nedved on the field at the same time along with Camoranesi, a regista wasn't really needed...

CroInter wrote:

You're such a troll Cro...

juve_gigi wrote:

Juventude wrote:I'm not too worried about not having a substitute regista. Juventus has played without a regista in past successful seasons. Having a regista like Pirlo is a luxury, it's not the norm. When he comes off, Juve will just have to adjust and play a different style.

You can have a successful midfield by having solid central midfielders and great wings. Teams cannot wait for a great regista to come along to be successful. Look at the 2004/05 and 2005/06 teams for Juventus. There was no true regista, but there were good wing style players in Nedved and Camoranesi and solid midfielders with players like Emerson and Vieira.

For me, it just would have been nice to have a talent like Poli in a Juventus shirt.

I could be wrong but I am of the opinion that the 4-2-4 can only work properly if you have a regista starting the attack. If both wingers are playing up high then who is going to get them the ball? In a 4-4-2, you don't need a regista as the wingers are supporting the midfielders, but in a 4-2-4, the 2 midfielders are all alone and you need at least one of them who can distribitute the ball to the wingers and forwards. But I could be wrong on how all this works, but that is my interpretation of Conte's system.

As for our previous teams, Nedved was a trequartista as much as a winger, he basically replaced Zidane, so he was the ball distributor. We never played a 4-2-4 back then, so we had alot of help in midfield and never really needed a regista. Also, our midfield back then was world class, so we were not reliant just on one player to distribute the ball and make our offense tick. We had lots of great ball handlers back then, even up front, so no real need for a pure regista like Pirlo.

When you have Del Piero in his prime and Nedved on the field at the same time along with Camoranesi, a regista wasn't really needed...

You definitely need someone to move the ball forward that will connect the defense to midfield to the forwards, but I think people are overly concerned with that player needing to be a "regista" that plays in the same style as Pirlo. I think we have players that can distribute the ball, but they just aren't a deep-lying playmaker like Pirlo. It will be very interesting to see this team in action and I'm actually looking forward to seeing how the team operates without Pirlo because, in reality, he is only going to give us, at best, two good years.

we offered more than them, they refused , Poli said he wants to stay in Sampdoria ..and Sampdoria asked 8 mil PLUS PASQUATO DEAL NOT APPROVED BY CONTE !

CroInter wrote:

I have to give it to you this time.........successful troll

I envy you Inter... Redarding the regista discussion above: Manchester united is a prime example of a succesfull 4-2-4, yet i do not see a "pirlo" in their midfield!? I see hardworking clever midfielders with good passing abilities, but above all - passing the ball great around. I prefere Machisio - Vidal over a Pirlo in my pref lineup!!

LWL91 wrote:I envy you Inter... Redarding the regista discussion above: Manchester united is a prime example of a succesfull 4-2-4, yet i do not see a "pirlo" in their midfield!? I see hardworking clever midfielders with good passing abilities, but above all - passing the ball great around. I prefere Machisio - Vidal over a Pirlo in my pref lineup!!

Great post. I agree with everything you said.

DeviAngel wrote:we offered more than them, they refused , Poli said he wants to stay in Sampdoria ..and Sampdoria asked 8 mil PLUS PASQUATO DEAL NOT APPROVED BY CONTE !

So the $64,000 question then becomes this...

Why is it that we offer MORE money to try and get Poli, Aquilani, Cassani, etc. but other teams can get them for less?? Is it because these players would rather go to other teams, or that nobody respects Juve anymore, the greatest Italian team ever? Or maybe, just maybe, we have a transfer director who just can't seem to negotiate as well as the other guys??

I'll leave this as an open ended question because I am sure I will get many different responses, but in my opinion there shouldn't be too many players that refuse Juventus, and also money doesn't seem to be an issue with some of these transfers, so the only logical explanation is our transfer guru isn't as great of a transfer guru as some people think, i.e he isn't a very good negotiator.

And yes, I understand that we have had some players come for less and that the Vidal transfer was a good one, but if you look at all the deals that Marotta has negotiated, can you name ONE deal other than Krasic whereby we stole that player from another team??

Bonucci - 15.5m - overpriced as of right now
Martinez - 12m - waste of 12m
Pepe - 7.5m - overpriced
Motta - 5m - at best market value
Ziegler - he was free and out of contract so doesn't count
Pirlo - he was free and out of contract so doesn't count
Matri - 18m - market value
Quags - 15.5m - market value
Vucinic - 15m - market value
Giaccherini - 6m - same as Giovinco value so overpriced
South American guy - unproven so at best market value
Rinaudo - loan deal gone bad
Sorensen - 300k - good price but still unproven so doesn't count
Vidal - 10.5m - I think a good price but he was on last year of contract so other players in last year of contract have gone for less
Storari - 4.5m - Sirigu went for 3.5m so in my opinion market value at best
Traore - loan deal gone bad
Lichtsteiner - 12m - Cassani went for 5m, so market value at best, but in my opinion overpriced
Luca Toni - free - nobody was lining up for him and he is a bench warmer at best so market value
Lanzafame - loan deal gone bad
Pazienza - he was free and out of contract so doesn't count
Krasic - 15m - good price, "the only one"

Can anyone logically and without insulting my post come up with some explanations on how none of these transfers were steals other than Krasic? And don't use the we are not in CL football excuse or Juventus isn't a big team anymore excuse, cause Fiorentina got Cassani for 5m and they are a mid table club with no CL football either.

In order to become a CL football team again and in order to take the next step on a limited budget that we have, we cannot afford to keep paying market value for players and also throwing money away on bad purchases and bad loan deals.

Marotta has spent close to 140m dollars in transfer fees, not including any loan deals and also not including any monies we got back from sales. So the money was there. That should have been enough to build a CL contendng team and also purhase at least ONE world class player. As of right now, Marotta has not purchased even one world class player with 140m at his disposal, and also curently we are nowhere near a CL spot.

I am going to patiently wait until the season starts and we start playing some games, but as of right now I am not impressed with the summer mercato at all.

LWL91 wrote:I envy you Inter... Redarding the regista discussion above: Manchester united is a prime example of a succesfull 4-2-4, yet i do not see a "pirlo" in their midfield!? I see hardworking clever midfielders with good passing abilities, but above all - passing the ball great around. I prefere Machisio - Vidal over a Pirlo in my pref lineup!!

Well when your team is good enough to challenge for the CL trophy and you are coached by one of the greatest coaches in European football history, then you can probably safely get away without having a true regista in a 4-2-4 alignment. Unfortuantely, Juventus does not have that luxury at the moment...

To your question Gigi, I really don't think our offers were as high as the press stated. I think a lot of those were rumors or inaccurate.

As this market comes to a close with a series of inexpensive loans w/ right to purchase, Juve clearly did not have as much money to spend on this market as was stated in the news. I think Marotta was allowed to spend a lot of money on a player like Aguero or Rossi, but that was it.

I agree that the market was not impressive in terms of big names coming to the team, but I think our budget was small (unless we could land a big name player) and we had to fill a lot of positions.

I think you pay more coz you have money, and Juve brags about it, how many times have i read in last year Juve will have 100m transfer budget or something like that, while Inter and Milan bitch about not having any money, financial fair play bla bla....
Its one thing when you are selling to someone who looks like has money and to someone who doesn't.

juve_gigi wrote:

LWL91 wrote:I envy you Inter... Redarding the regista discussion above: Manchester united is a prime example of a succesfull 4-2-4, yet i do not see a "pirlo" in their midfield!? I see hardworking clever midfielders with good passing abilities, but above all - passing the ball great around. I prefere Machisio - Vidal over a Pirlo in my pref lineup!!

Well when your team is good enough to challenge for the CL trophy and you are coached by one of the greatest coaches in European football history, then you can probably safely get away with having a true regista in a 4-2-4 alignment. Unfortuantely, Juventus does not have that luxury at the moment...

I don't understand that logic. So, a team that is rebuilding needs a regista, but a good team does not need a regista? Juve chose to bring in Pirlo and run the midfield through him, which I think was a bad choice. However, we have good passers that are not registas that could create a great central midfield (Vidal and Marchisio). This isn't a matter of being a great team or a rebuilding team, it's a question of whether you need a regista like Pirlo to be successful and I don't believe that we need to have regista substitutes to back up Pirlo. We can win with good passing and wing play.

Juventude wrote:To your question Gigi, I really don't think our offers were as high as the press stated. I think a lot of those were rumors or inaccurate.

As this market comes to a close with a series of inexpensive loans w/ right to purchase, Juve clearly did not have as much money to spend on this market as was stated in the news. I think Marotta was allowed to spend a lot of money on a player like Aguero or Rossi, but that was it.

I agree that the market was not impressive in terms of big names coming to the team, but I think our budget was small (unless we could land a big name player) and we had to fill a lot of positions.

Fair enough, but if you add it all up we spent 44m this summer and apparently we still have 7-8m in the kitty to get a LW and CB. So we will end up spending 50m or so this summer. That should be enough to get a top player and add a few re-inforcements.

As for filling alot of positions, Marotta stated that we needed quality, not quantity this summer. Unfortunately, he was wrong because he had to fill positions that were seemingly filled last year. Martinez, Motta, Traore, Lanzafame, Pepe, Rinaudo, Aquilani, Toni, these were all players brought in last year and now this year they are either gone or are bench warmers at best. Not to mention the fact that Bonucci has been rumoured to be on his way out as well. So Marotta has had to spend a considerable amout of his time and his budget replacing players that he brought in just last year, i.e fixing his own mess.

I understand the problems with getting rid of the deadweight of the Secco era, but other than Amauri, who still lingers on our roster, there aren't any Secco players left. They are all gone. So that cannot be used as an excuse anymore. We have brought in players this summer to replace players that Marotta brought in just last year, his own players, not Secco's players. That is my concern.

I want Juve to succeed just as much as anyone, but having to redo your lineup every summer isn't a rrecipe for success and won't take us to the promised land.

DeviAngel wrote:we offered more than them, they refused , Poli said he wants to stay in Sampdoria ..and Sampdoria asked 8 mil PLUS PASQUATO DEAL NOT APPROVED BY CONTE !

Sorry Devi, it just means Marotta is not able to negotiate well. Not saying this to start any arguments, just saying if he wasn't able to convince Sampdoria for a lower price, then something is odd. Same applies with the Aquilani situation

juve_gigi wrote:

DeviAngel wrote:we offered more than them, they refused , Poli said he wants to stay in Sampdoria ..and Sampdoria asked 8 mil PLUS PASQUATO DEAL NOT APPROVED BY CONTE !

So the $64,000 question then becomes this...

Why is it that we offer MORE money to try and get Poli, Aquilani, Cassani, etc. but other teams can get them for less?? Is it because these players would rather go to other teams, or that nobody respects Juve anymore, the greatest Italian team ever? Or maybe, just maybe, we have a transfer director who just can't seem to negotiate as well as the other guys??

I'll leave this as an open ended question because I am sure I will get many different responses, but in my opinion there shouldn't be too many players that refuse Juventus, and also money doesn't seem to be an issue with some of these transfers, so the only logical explanation is our transfer guru isn't as great of a transfer guru as some people think, i.e he isn't a very good negotiator.

And yes, I understand that we have had some players come for less and that the Vidal transfer was a good one, but if you look at all the deals that Marotta has negotiated, can you name ONE deal other than Krasic whereby we stole that player from another team??

Bonucci - 15.5m - overpriced as of right now
Martinez - 12m - waste of 12m
Pepe - 7.5m - overpriced
Motta - 5m - at best market value
Ziegler - he was free and out of contract so doesn't count
Pirlo - he was free and out of contract so doesn't count
Matri - 18m - market value
Quags - 15.5m - market value
Vucinic - 15m - market value
Giaccherini - 6m - same as Giovinco value so overpriced
South American guy - unproven so at best market value
Rinaudo - loan deal gone bad
Sorensen - 300k - good price but still unproven so doesn't count
Vidal - 10.5m - I think a good price but he was on last year of contract so other players in last year of contract have gone for less
Storari - 4.5m - Sirigu went for 3.5m so in my opinion market value at best
Traore - loan deal gone bad
Lichtsteiner - 12m - Cassani went for 5m, so market value at best, but in my opinion overpriced
Luca Toni - free - nobody was lining up for him and he is a bench warmer at best so market value
Lanzafame - loan deal gone bad
Pazienza - he was free and out of contract so doesn't count
Krasic - 15m - good price, "the only one"

Can anyone logically and without insulting my post come up with some explanations on how none of these transfers were steals other than Krasic? And don't use the we are not in CL football excuse or Juventus isn't a big team anymore excuse, cause Fiorentina got Cassani for 5m and they are a mid table club with no CL football either.

In order to become a CL football team again and in order to take the next step on a limited budget that we have, we cannot afford to keep paying market value for players and also throwing money away on bad purchases and bad loan deals.

Marotta has spent close to 140m dollars in transfer fees, not including any loan deals and also not including any monies we got back from sales. So the money was there. That should have been enough to build a CL contendng team and also purhase at least ONE world class player. As of right now, Marotta has not purchased even one world class player with 140m at his disposal, and also curently we are nowhere near a CL spot.

I am going to patiently wait until the season starts and we start playing some games, but as of right now I am not impressed with the summer mercato at all.

WOW, amazing post. I completely agree. You basically proved my point, up to bottom. Lots of Math there. + 1.

Some corrections.

- Vucinic cost 18m, and not 15m
- Matri was not at Market Value, he's worth less
- Vidal good price, but as a bench player a bit to much
- Toni, Wages to high
- Pirlo, Wages to high

Juventude wrote:

juve_gigi wrote:

LWL91 wrote:I envy you Inter... Redarding the regista discussion above: Manchester united is a prime example of a succesfull 4-2-4, yet i do not see a "pirlo" in their midfield!? I see hardworking clever midfielders with good passing abilities, but above all - passing the ball great around. I prefere Machisio - Vidal over a Pirlo in my pref lineup!!

Well when your team is good enough to challenge for the CL trophy and you are coached by one of the greatest coaches in European football history, then you can probably safely get away with having a true regista in a 4-2-4 alignment. Unfortuantely, Juventus does not have that luxury at the moment...

I don't understand that logic. So, a team that is rebuilding needs a regista, but a good team does not need a regista? Juve chose to bring in Pirlo and run the midfield through him, which I think was a bad choice. However, we have good passers that are not registas that could create a great central midfield (Vidal and Marchisio). This isn't a matter of being a great team or a rebuilding team, it's a question of whether you need a regista like Pirlo to be successful and I don't believe that we need to have regista substitutes to back up Pirlo. We can win with good passing and wing play.

The point I was trying to make is that when you have a great team with great players you don't need to rely just on one guy to make your offense tick. Man U don't need a regista like Pirlo because they have top players that collectively can do the same job that Pirlo can do.

If you want to say that we have Vidal and Marchisio and so we don't need Pirlo then that's fine. I don't agree with that because I feel that Pirlo and a vice-Pirlo are both needed to make our offiense tick cause we don't have the players that Man U has. I don't think Vidal and Marchisio alone in our midfield will be good enough to win games in a 4-2-4 formation. I could be wrong on this so time will tell, but in my opinion without Pirlo in the lineup Juventus this year will be a mid table team at best. And without a vice to him we are screwed if he gets injured.

And if you want evidence of this, then just watch last year's games when Aquilani was out of the lineup, we had zero creativity and thus couldn't win any games. If you want to believe that Vidal will change that, then that's fine, but I just don't think he is a creative enough player to make that kind of a difference. But I could be wrong.

Here's a little math that me and you discussed about. Meaning since Christmas up until now.

The best Options:

Cassano - 2.5m
Pazzini - 12m
Poli/Aquilani - 6m
Pirlo - Free
Vidal - 10.5m
Ziegler - Free
Pazienza - Free
Elia - 8m
Cassani - 5m
Giovinco - Free

= 44m( + 25 Rossi) = 69 + 12.5 = 81.5

+ 38.5 - (18.5 Matri) - (7.5m Pepe) = 12.5

= 56.5m

Marotta's Transfers:

Matri - 18.5m
Vucinic - 18m
Lichstiener - 10m
Vidal - 10.5m
Giaccherini - 6m
Elia - 8m
Including Free Players

= 69m

+ 38.5 = 107.5m

So in reality we spent more and got less quality.

sciacca wrote:Here's a little math that me and you discussed about. Meaning since Christmas up until now.

The best Options:

Cassano - 2.5m
Pazzini - 12m
Poli/Aquilani - 6m
Pirlo - Free
Vidal - 10.5m
Ziegler - Free
Pazienza - Free
Elia - 8m
Cassani - 5m
Giovinco - Free

= 44m( + 25 Rossi) = 69 + 12.5 = 81.5

+ 38.5 - (18.5 Matri) - (7.5m Pepe) = 12.5

= 56.5m

Marotta's Transfers:

Matri - 18.5m
Vucinic - 18m
Lichstiener - 10m
Vidal - 10.5m
Giaccherini - 6m
Elia - 8m
Including Free Players

= 69m

+ 38.5 = 107.5m

So in reality we spent more and got less quality.

If you add it all up at the end of the day we could of had either Aguero or Rossi in our lineup plus a free Giovinco for LESS money than Marotta actually spent over the last 3 mercatos. I am not sayng this to bitch about Marotta, it is just the reality.

That is why it is so important that we spend our money wisely. We cannot just overpay or pay market value for all players and expect to compete for a CL spot. We have to pick and choose our players wisely. And we have to have a transfer director that once in a while can steal a player from another team.

That is why the Giaccherini transfer is so upsetting to me. We could have just kept Giovinco for free and he is a better player anyway. Then, with the extra 6m we saved by not needing Giaccherini we could have used that to purchase Rossi, whereby we were apparently 5m short. The argument for Giaccherini is that he fits our system better than Giovinco because he is more versatile and is a winger. Well, I am of the opinion that you go and get the best players you can get and then build the team around them, not the other way around. You don't build a team around a coach unless he is a world class coach who will stay awhile. That is the mistake we made last year. We built our team around a mid table coach, and now after he gets fired after only one year we are rebuilding again, trying to get rid of the players that were brought in to fit his system. Same with Conte. We are building a team around his 4-2-4 formation. So what happens if Conte flops? Do we scrap the 4-2-4 and sell all the wingers we bought this year to get new players for our new coach next year?

Doesn't make alot of sense to me really...

yh marotta sucks moggi god .....lol

its not marotta players simply want to play in Champion League thats why they don't come here ...as for Aquilani pool thought they were toging to find some1 for 11 mils if juve don't offer but they didn't

Pazzini didn't cost 12M, he cost 12M + Biabany who was rated at like 7M if I recall correctly.

I don't see a problem in paying market value, it is better than overpaying. I mean you guys complain with Marotta can't seal the deal but when he does he should have gotten a better deal?

Lichtsteiner was convinced to join Juventus by Conte, he was the choice for the right back from the start and Marotta made the transfer happen so Cassani is nulled.

Matri was overpayed for in all reality but he is earning it now, especially if he builds off of last season. Anyways, this was really a last minute buy and as Chelsea and Liverpool has shown us through the transfers of Torres and Carroll in January, if you want a player at the deadline it is going to cost you.

Missing Cassano was quite possibly his worst idea, Cassano is top class with plenty still to give. Martinez, Pepe, I am firmly against I can't stand either of them or their prices. I am indifferent on Giacch, Ziegler, Pazienza, they are depth players who came for little-to-no price so I can't complain.

I believe that Marotta did try for Poli but his downfall was using Manniger as a bargaining chip, instead of giving Manniger + cash it should have just been cash. So, again this was a miss. Aquilani is not a miss however, Marotta asked for a discount before signing Pirlo, he asked for a 9M price tag and Liverpool refused. He then signed Pirlo and never turned back. Yes, a back up regista is necessary, I do agree. However, we are talking about over 7M in wages given between Pirlo and Aquilani for one spot. In a two man midfield there is no way we would see them playing together anyways, I believe depth can be found in different ways and if Pirlo remains healthy (knock on wood) then we won't be having this conversation.

Bonucci was overpriced but as a young Italian defender with the year he had for Bari it was somewhat justified. Plus with the proposed Alves (who cost over 20M 1 year ago) for Bonucci switch it is clear he has not dropped in price at least to Spaletti.

Sorry, also sending Giovinco away was a massive miss, giant mistake.

Marotta may have not signed many big names but I like this team's chances of getting a champions league spot. Especially if Elia comes.

Best case scenario- Juventus finishes in the top 3 with this squad.
Next summer transfer kitty of 40-60M to be spend on 2-3 players, instead of having a similar amount to build a team.

I don't mean to be so pro-Marotta if it comes off that way because I am not, I am not on board with some of the moves, specifically Pepe/Martinez, however, I am looking forward and not backwards. The important thing is that hopefully neither of them will play a part in Conte's Juventus.

sciacca wrote:
Marotta's Transfers:[/b]

Matri - 18.5m over 5 yrs - 3,5 mil
Vucinic - 15m over 3 yrs - 5 mil
Lichstiener - 10m over 3 yrs = 3,2mil
Vidal - 10.5m over 3 yrs - 3.5 mil
Giaccherini - 3 mil - 1 mil
Elia - 8m we don't know that
Including Free Players

all payed in 3 yrs ... Vucinic was 15 and don't change the prices as u wish just to have reason to bash