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Post by futbol_bill Sun 23 Oct 2022 - 21:21

I wanted to respond to earlier posts about the need for rotations to be able to compete in multiple competitions.

Before I write what I think is happening with the top clubs, I first want to repeat a post I just made in another thread about the economics of today’s game.

“ It’s a question of understanding the economics of today’s game. Reality is there are less than 10 clubs (2 in Spain, one in Germany and one in France, rest are in EPL) that can buy and pay the top players. Generally the salary structure is such that even the bottom dwellers on these teams are paid higher than others teams in general making it difficult to move underperformers. They generally, depending on country and basic business principles have to keep the true gross salary load (not the net that is usually reported) within the club’s operating income as well as other operating expenses. Of the 10 clubs, even with the EPL television revenues, not all of them have the same budget capacity such as City, Man U and perhaps Chelsea (depends on new owner) have.”

I believe it has always been necessary to have significant rotations to be able to compete in multiple competitions, but the pressure has increased in past several years due to the intense schedules including international games and the inevitable injuries that result. And now with the marketplace having a very limited number of teams that can buy top players, I think there is a movement within these top teams to have 12 to 15 so called starters having regular rotations. But not all of the 10 clubs can afford that and there are also at least a couple of them that make poor acquisitions  or put too much of salary load into top 2 or 3 players.

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Post by Great Leader Sprucenuce Sun 23 Oct 2022 - 21:40

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Wew

Inb4 money.
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Post by BarrileteCosmico Sun 23 Oct 2022 - 21:43

Money or not, I've been impressed with the nufc pressing game and they are absolutely playing with more hunger than most other teams in the league
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Post by Great Leader Sprucenuce Sun 23 Oct 2022 - 21:47

My come back to anyone that says anything is basically our best winger and striker have barely played and two of our best midfielders have both missed time.

Obviously we haven't had financial backing long enough to have real depth so I'm surprised it's going as well as it is. Eddie Howe seems really good at his job I guess.
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Post by El Gunner Sun 23 Oct 2022 - 21:50

i think they can challenge for the top 4 seeing as they don't have European football to fatigue them
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Post by The Demon of Carthage Sun 23 Oct 2022 - 22:09

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Wew

Inb4 money.

Does this mean you will go back to watching football again? Or is it still a no-no?
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Post by Great Leader Sprucenuce Sun 23 Oct 2022 - 22:55

The Demon of Carthage wrote:
Great Leader Sprucenuce wrote:2022/2023 Premier League Discussion - Page 31 Screen11

Wew

Inb4 money.

Does this mean you will go back to watching football again? Or is it still a no-no?


I haven't been really, I've been checking results and trying to but it's hard to get back into after so long.

I just like trolling Firenze lmao.
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Post by halamadrid2 Thu 27 Oct 2022 - 21:56



Will singlehandedly make Utd a title contender if they can get a decent goalscorer

Where is your apology @Firenze
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Post by Thimmy Thu 27 Oct 2022 - 22:13

To be perfectly fair, Casemiro has very favorable stats because he's barely played since he transferred to Man United Razz
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Post by The Demon of Carthage Fri 28 Oct 2022 - 10:44

halamadrid2 wrote:Will singlehandedly make Utd a title contender if they can get a decent goalscorer

They have a decent goalscorer. They just choose not to use him for valid and not so valid reasons.
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Post by Hapless_Hans Fri 28 Oct 2022 - 13:43

The Demon of Carthage wrote:
halamadrid2 wrote:Will singlehandedly make Utd a title contender if they can get a decent goalscorer

They have a decent goalscorer. They just choose not to use him for valid and not so valid reasons.


What are the 'not so valid' reasons?
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Post by Hapless_Hans Sat 29 Oct 2022 - 22:07

starting to think Harvey Elliott is just a poor rich man's Oxlade-Chamberlain
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Post by Casciavit Sat 29 Oct 2022 - 22:34

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Post by Nishankly Sat 29 Oct 2022 - 22:38

What do you expect? Curtis Jones, Henderson and Milner subbed on to win a game, that is where we are at. Imagine if Klopp could spend.
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Post by Great Leader Sprucenuce Sat 29 Oct 2022 - 22:40

Nishankly wrote:What do you expect? Curtis Jones, Henderson and Milner subbed on to win a game, that is where we are at. Imagine if Klopp could spend.


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Post by Casciavit Sat 29 Oct 2022 - 22:41

Van Dijk’s unbeaten Anfield record has come to an end
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Post by Nishankly Sat 29 Oct 2022 - 22:43

Great Leader Sprucenuce wrote:
Nishankly wrote:What do you expect? Curtis Jones, Henderson and Milner subbed on to win a game, that is where we are at. Imagine if Klopp could spend.


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Been asking you to come back since a long while brother even when you ignored Newcastle doing well last year, love it.
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Post by Great Leader Sprucenuce Sat 29 Oct 2022 - 22:46

Good to see you too Heart
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Post by Firenze Sat 29 Oct 2022 - 22:46

the Klopp cycle is over and GL is mostly dead, sucks

prime Firenze would be cutting a scathing promo right now, sniff
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Post by Nishankly Sat 29 Oct 2022 - 22:48

Klopp cycle over like the last 5 years, but still the only team to beat Man City again this season.
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Post by Great Leader Sprucenuce Sat 29 Oct 2022 - 22:49

Firenze wrote:the Klopp cycle is over and GL is mostly dead, sucks

prime Firenze would be cutting a scathing promo right now, sniff


Who is stopping you? Oh yeah I forgot, even during Klopp cycle being supposedly over your trash pile of a team is only 4 points clear of them Laughing
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Post by Great Leader Sprucenuce Sat 29 Oct 2022 - 22:51

Being able to slander every team in this league except for Arsenal feels pretty good ngl.

Eddie Howe :bow:
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Post by Kaladin Sat 29 Oct 2022 - 22:59

The Athletic journalists in the mud
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Post by BarrileteCosmico Sun 30 Oct 2022 - 0:27

Virgils record being undone by a Marsch team is a prime MERICA moment.
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Post by Hapless_Hans Sun 30 Oct 2022 - 10:34

Great Leader Sprucenuce wrote:
Nishankly wrote:What do you expect? Curtis Jones, Henderson and Milner subbed on to win a game, that is where we are at. Imagine if Klopp could spend.


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Laughing

not sure what's more pathetic, Klopp's inability to keep it up (must be the alcohol) or Liverpool fan's sheepish whining
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Post by Firenze Sun 30 Oct 2022 - 19:14

3 pts off third with a game in hand

ten haaaaaaaawg
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