Winter Transfer Rumours 2021/22

Myesyats wrote:I wouldnt call him a flop but yes 50m+ is way too much and we are morons, yes. Yes.

I’ll keep this for future reference.

Myesyats wrote:Barcelona and Ajax are negotiating a swap deal between Dest and Mazraoui. [as]

getting better

You bought a young RB from Ajax, and now you're trading him back to Ajax for an older RB? Who's benefiting from this?

Thimmy wrote:

Myesyats wrote:Barcelona and Ajax are negotiating a swap deal between Dest and Mazraoui. [as]

getting better

You bought a young RB from Ajax, and now you're trading him back to Ajax for an older RB? Who's benefiting from this?

That is up to debate. I'd just be happy to get rid of dest. Mazra just turned 24 a month ago btw, thats young still too

He's also banned from the Moroccan NT so you don't have to lose him for the AFCON

Personally I would be extremely unhappy with Dest leaving. His defending is lacking, but I really like his offense side of the game n his abilities in general. Maybe Xavi thinks his positional play isnt suitable for Barca. Especially strange when we dont even have a proper RB apart from old Alves, or playing CBs there or Roberto. Its just another wtf move if its real, same with Ferran Torres... as a cule for more than a decade, I hope things dont continue like this in terms of terrible transfers, there is only so much one can take. If the team ends up with not so many players I like I dont see the point of watching them anymore? Still would support Barca, but there would be no fun watching anymore...

Ferran Torres is a weird case.

He was signed to be Sane's replacement. He was supposed to be City's new touchline hugging 1v1 winger, and he completely flopped in that role. He was either too scared to go past his man or he couldn't because he got brushed off. The biggest problem was that you could tell he was barely involved in the game. He was honestly like a ghost at times.

He got a second chance at City playing as a striker. He still had that issue of being a ghost in the build-up, but he turned out to be an amazing shooter. His movement and finishing are very good. He was like a Spanish Vardy, but with less pace and more technique. He dunked on small teams but was fairly invisible against any good teams.

I assume Xavi is signing him to play as a 9 because Barca lacks any threat in their box. I think Ferran will do alright. He'll probably bag a fair bit of goals himself. I don't view him as an elite talent, and that's because he has no presence on the field which was glaring in big games. I think he'll do the job of scoring tap-ins against minnows which is what Barca needs to finish 4th place. He's also capable of playing anywhere on the front line, so he's rather versatile too.

He is only 21, and he'll be a starter at Barca, so he'll develop his weak traits. It's a good step forward for Barca to have him and Fati as they are very good shooters. You'll get 15+ goals from each of them in the league every season if they are able to stay fit.

Ferran hardly deserves the title of a weird case as he just simply is not very good. His movement is as good as it can be but simply to compensate for his lack of general skill-set.

I cannot see why Xavi is going after him.

Will be the new david villa. Calling it now

Given the circumstances, we will give him the chance n time to improve n prove himself hopefully... I really hope for Xavi n Barcas sake that he will... but comparisons with Villa are just not right. Villa was an unbelievable goal scorer, his finishing were amongst the best of all time. It was only at Barca he played LW due to Messi being in the middle, for Spain n others he was more a 9 but also very good all round player. Ferran is quite different player...he would need to improve his goals scoring massively to come close to Villa. Just check the goals stats just for an example.

Mazrouai is a free agent in June so its not happening this winter.

Him and Azpilicueta are interesting RB options for free in the summer.

Milik: Juve still interested after all those years. The guy is as injury prone as they come and Icardi is a much better option imo.

Icardi: PSG rejected loan-swap with Arthur Melo. They want loan + mandatory option to buy.

Ramsey: Juve will release him in the upcoming week. Excellent news. Farewell and good luck

Benfica: interested in Pirlo as manager. Seems like his credibility was not too affected, clubs acknowledge he was thrown in the lion's den.

Pogba: Madrid not interested anymore i think PSG is the only menace remaining

Martial: wants to leave and close to Sevilla

Roma: about to sign Ainsley Maitland-Niles

Fiorentina: asking 70 millions for Vlahovic this winter

Why did Ramsey fail at Juventus?

Myesyats wrote:Will be the new david villa. Calling it now

I'll give you time to take back your call as David Villa was a menace at Sporting, Zaragoza and Valencia.

Ferran Torres is probably a menace on FIFA.

danyjr wrote:Why did Ramsey fail at Juventus?

He is never really in game shape it seems. A lot of minor injuries and when he does play he is not a factor for us. He has good flashes sometimes but that's far from sufficient.

Also he played under 3 managers in 3 years, he struggles to find a role because what he brings to the table we already have plenty of. Instead in midfield we need a DM since many years.

danyjr wrote:Why did Ramsey fail at Juventus?

because he was an average quality player to begin with, and probably on a decline at this stage of his career.

AC Milan will sign a new centre back in January to replace Kjaer and they’re also considering Abdou Diallo as option, as per @DiMarzio. He’s appreciated but depends on price tag and PSG decision #ACMilan

No advanced talks for Sven Botman to AC Milan - Newcastle still pushing.

— Fabrizio Romano (@FabrizioRomano) December 27, 2021

He's the Romagnoli replacement i would presume, left footed, 25, can even play LB as well.

Though i don't think we're gunning for him, he's on 5m net and came from Dortmund for 32m, he'd be the 2nd highest earner at the club after Ibra

If you mean the new Villa based on what he may replicate I highly doubt that because Villa has more skill in his left toe then Ferran has in his entire body. He will never reach that level.

Official. Ferrán Torres joins Barcelona from Manchester City for €55m plus €10m add ons. Five year contract signed. #FCB

Release clause for €1B included into his contract - as for Pedri and Ansu Fati. pic.twitter.com/W4IEamU8bL

— Fabrizio Romano (@FabrizioRomano) December 28, 2021

Broke and finished but still more pull than Milan ever had

What about Haaland ? Messi was so much of a financial burden that you can afford unlimited spendings again ? Not so long ago we were doing shady deals Arthur vs Pjanic to scrape an extra 10 millions in the books

We need to offload some players (Coutinho, Umtiti etc) but it is expected that we will be able to face the signing of Haaland in the summer if an opportunity arises, regardless of Ferran. It's not ruled out that he stays at BVB for 1 more year.

Myesyats wrote:Broke and finished but still more pull than Milan ever had

| Barcelona 'will need at least €32m' to register Ferran Torres with La Liga.

[@ESPNFC/@Marcotti] #Barça pic.twitter.com/hC5Oo1zkUj

— TFS - Top Football Show (@TopFootballShow) December 28, 2021

Woof, couple that mouth-watering signing alongside 49 year old Alves, Braithwaite and de Jong, and you just might have yourself a decent 8th place squad

Focus on getting above Rayo Vallecano and Real Paella before jabbering about anything

"Hold on to hope if you've got it" ♫♫♫

Good thinking by Barca to put those release clauses at 1 bn and not, like, 300m, 500m, or 750m, as no doubt teams would be lining up to snatch those Torres or Pedri kids up at those figures in no time

By Spanish law every contract must have a release clause, it's Barca's way of saying that there is no release clause and teams must negotiate.

Come to think of it, it probably violates the spirit of the law and could be challenged in court if needed.

I know that they have to be there legally, still the 1bn nonsense is just dumb, braggart posturing