Re: The US Politics Thread

by FennecFox7 Mon 28 Oct - 1:46:45

Pedram wrote:
Myesyats wrote:Kamala declined JRE. Big mistake

Trump podcast just dropped and it’s already at 6.5m, 1mil views per hour

Gonna be huge

Democrats are trying to lose the election.

I really think they’re okay with a trump presidency.. think about it.. major donors and super pacs like AIPAC fund both candidates for the most part.

by BarrileteCosmico Tue 29 Oct - 4:09:53

When Kamala took over she seemed to have a message of "we're bringing back hope, optimism and good vibes", which led to the famous "brat summer".

I thought this message resonated. People were tired of being forced to choose between a narcissist and a senile man.

But lately she's gone back to the failed Biden playbook of "Trump is bad for democracy", which is true, but is also a) old news and b) not a reason to vote for Kamala but rather against Trump.

I feel strongly that Kamala's best strategy is to go "in the last 8 years politics has become divisive, violent and just plain exhausting. Vote for me and get a normal america back and get your mental sanity back". Give people a reason to vote for her and the change she represents.

That's not the strategy she's pursuing. I think she'll lose but I hope I'm wrong. We'll find out in a week.

by Myesyats Tue 29 Oct - 15:07:24

wtf happened here? Laughing

pic.twitter.com/aVk3rLClpT
— Elon Musk (@elonmusk) October 28, 2024

by Arquitecto Tue 29 Oct - 16:59:06

Kamala's strategy: I am not Trump therefore vote for me.

Hilarious and gutless strategy with her cringe attempts at speaking to normal society and larping her way along at bars and restaurants.

by Pedram Tue 29 Oct - 17:15:10

The only good thing that will come out of a Kamala loss is that all these moron former Hillary staffers giving her terrible advices will get discredited in the media and bashed relentlessly. they're the biggest impediment to Democratic Party moving in the right direction.

by Myesyats Tue 29 Oct - 21:28:15

Trump would have never allowed this tbf

by Myesyats Tue 29 Oct - 21:49:44

In case you were wondering why Google is censoring the Joe Roagn podcast with Donald Trump: pic.twitter.com/vB0EVMMNlq
— Stylo (@0xStylo) October 28, 2024

by Thimmy Tue 29 Oct - 22:02:13

It kind of makes sense. At the same time, I would've thought they would at least try to hide their bias somewhat, as a "professional company". It's probably the most viral video on Youtube, ever - and yet, they've gone out of their way to not make it show up on their frontpage Laughing

by Myesyats Tue 29 Oct - 22:13:32

I just typed "Rogan Trump" in YouTube search and the podcast doesnt show up, try it yourself

38m views in 3 days.

by elitedam Tue 29 Oct - 23:26:59

Myesyats wrote:Trump would have never allowed this tbf

Trump was the one who negotiated the withdrawal. He even gave the order for the immediate withdrawal of all troops after he lost in 2020, even after the Taliban didn't live up to the agreement.

by elitedam Tue 29 Oct - 23:27:52

Myesyats wrote:
In case you were wondering why Google is censoring the Joe Roagn podcast with Donald Trump: pic.twitter.com/vB0EVMMNlq
— Stylo (@0xStylo) October 28, 2024

Those are for employees, not the actual company.

by elitedam Tue 29 Oct - 23:30:08

I typed "Rogan Trump" on YouTube and the first autocomplete result was "Rogan Trump interview" and the first result was the entire interview. Ignoring the autocomplete, it gave a bunch of clips about the interview.

by Pedram Tue 29 Oct - 23:33:57

Myesyats wrote:I just typed "Rogan Trump" in YouTube search and the podcast doesnt show up, try it yourself

38m views in 3 days.

Just had a peek at it. honestly most of the interview was super boring stuff. i'm surprised Trump even accepted sitting down for 3 hours for this interview. Laughing

I'm not a Rogan listener but i know he leans right-wing so it was obvious he wouldn't ask him many challenging questions. but overall his style of just letting the guests talk uninterrupted doesn't fit these types of interviews imo.

by Myesyats Tue 29 Oct - 23:44:44

elitedam wrote:
Myesyats wrote:Trump would have never allowed this tbf

Trump was the one who negotiated the withdrawal. He even gave the order for the immediate withdrawal of all troops after he lost in 2020, even after the Taliban didn't live up to the agreement.

Trump gave the order and it was a good decision but he wasn't there to oversee the procedure, that's the entire point. He talks about it in the podcast, about his conversations with the generals etc.

by Pedram Tue 29 Oct - 23:49:36

Myesyats wrote:
elitedam wrote:
Myesyats wrote:Trump would have never allowed this tbf

Trump was the one who negotiated the withdrawal. He even gave the order for the immediate withdrawal of all troops after he lost in 2020, even after the Taliban didn't live up to the agreement.

Trump gave the order and it was a good decision but he wasn't there to oversee the procedure, that's the entire point. He talks about it in the podcast, about his conversations with the generals etc.

Yea i listened to that part. he said the generals told him it would have been more expensive to transport the military equipment out of the country so they just left them for the Talibans. unbelievable Laughing

by elitedam Wed 30 Oct - 0:07:07

Myesyats wrote:
elitedam wrote:
Myesyats wrote:Trump would have never allowed this tbf

Trump was the one who negotiated the withdrawal. He even gave the order for the immediate withdrawal of all troops after he lost in 2020, even after the Taliban didn't live up to the agreement.

Trump gave the order and it was a good decision but he wasn't there to oversee the procedure, that's the entire point. He talks about it in the podcast, about his conversations with the generals etc.

After Trump lost the election, he gave an order for the immediate withdrawal of all US troops. It was such a dumb thing to do that the Pentagon told him it couldn't be done. I'm not excusing Biden's role in this shitshow, there's plenty of blame to go around, but the idea that Trump would have handled the actual withdrawal any better is asinine.

by Myesyats Wed 30 Oct - 0:08:16

He said they said it would be cheaper to leave the planes behind rather than fly them home. It's possibly the single stupidest thing i have ever heard, ever

A child would have handler it better, Trump is right

by Pedram Wed 30 Oct - 0:14:45

Myesyats wrote:

A child would have handler it better, Trump is right

A sign that you might be in the echo chamber. in all honesty i don't think it would have unfolded in any different way had Trump been in charge, Taliban was gonna take over the moment US started lifting soldiers out of the country, they saw an opportunity and took it.

They don't call it the graveyard of empires for no reason. add it to the long list of stupid American wars that contributed to nothing.

by Myesyats Wed 30 Oct - 1:26:25

Pedram wrote:Taliban was gonna take over the moment US started lifting soldiers out of the country, they saw an opportunity and took it.

Thats why you take the equipment out first piece by piece and then soldiers.

Biden inherited the withdrawal plan, extended it and the rest is history.

I'm not saying Trump would've handled it perfectly but we can only judge what happened and what happened happened

by BarrileteCosmico Wed 30 Oct - 16:32:22

https://apnews.com/article/biden-trump-supporters-garbage-puerto-rico-comic-e62ccf9108ba0ca8d1ee694f91a6867e

Joe Biden wrote:“Just the other day, a speaker at his rally called Puerto Rico a floating island of garbage. Well, let me tell you something, I don’t, I don’t know the Puerto Rican that I know, the Puerto Rico where I’m fr -- in my home state of Delaware. They’re good, decent honorable people,” he said.

The president then added: “The only garbage I see floating out there is his supporters. His demonization of Latinos is unconscionable, and it’s un-American. It’s totally contrary to everything we’ve done, everything we’ve been.”

What is he even trying to say in the first half? Did he almost claim he's Puerto Rican? He's well and truly past it. Probably not fit to be president right now.

Also managed to give Trump ammunition a week from the election. Cool.

by Vibe Wed 30 Oct - 17:15:29

Dems were going in strong on the garbage stuff, then Biden goes and calls half the country garbage, smh Laughing

It is entirely possible that this guy is undoing Kamala intentionally.

by Myesyats Wed 30 Oct - 17:45:08

Did he just call half of Americans garbage? My president

I lurked on Reddit and they seem to think this PR thing will have an impact? Some comedian said it, and Peurto Ricans don’t even vote in the election bc it’s not a state

Kamala is easily winning if you read Reddit. I think they are incredibly detached

by Pedram Wed 30 Oct - 17:57:10

Reddit is a fully astroturfed website. i mildly criticized Israel in r/worldnews and instantly got banned. joke of a website tbh.

by elitedam Wed 30 Oct - 18:32:30

Puerto Ricans can vote if they don't live in Puerto Rico. Laughing

It sounded like Biden wanted to say, "The only garbage I see floating out there is his supporters' demonization of Latinos."

He's clearly not fully there. Too bad he didn't drop out much earlier.

by Pedram Wed 30 Oct - 18:44:22

Fun fact: Puerto Ricans by state https://t.co/nXOOfXXwZv pic.twitter.com/BmT1rCzcR1
— ???? ???? ???? ???? (@FKadoseneye_) October 28, 2024

Most of them swing states too.

by BarrileteCosmico Wed 30 Oct - 18:49:49

Vibe wrote:
It is entirely possible that this guy is undoing Kamala intentionally.

I remember 3 years ago when Biden made Kamala the "border czar" some people speculated he gave her an impossible problem to solve because he felt threatened by her. Not sure if it's true or not, but it might cost her the election too.

Biden is a lead lifeboat.

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