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Re: 2020 US presidential election
Yeah you literally just fuckin walk into it
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Hapless_Hans wrote:Should be more enough by now to get Trump done Ceaucescu style
against the wall, with his wife and family
Spare the children!
or whatever...
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There's a tweet for every occasion. pic.twitter.com/81SbKrd71u
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There truly is
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Don Winslow is a fucking clown tbf
terrible writer, and worse political commentator
as if foreign governments and terrorist organization relied on these kind of news to get their information
as if THAT was the problem about what's happening today
what a fucking idiot, still trying to spin it the "good honest conservatives please take notice, think of our NATIONAL SECURITY" way
these people will have learned nothing from the Trump era whatsoever
terrible writer, and worse political commentator
as if foreign governments and terrorist organization relied on these kind of news to get their information
as if THAT was the problem about what's happening today
what a fucking idiot, still trying to spin it the "good honest conservatives please take notice, think of our NATIONAL SECURITY" way
these people will have learned nothing from the Trump era whatsoever
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CNN reporting that FBI, etc. were aware of risk and were coordinating with Capitol Hill... but they can't do anything unless asked. They weren't asked until after the riots had already reached the doors of Congress.
So yeah, deplorable people rioting. No doubt. But planning by Congress was horrible too.
So yeah, deplorable people rioting. No doubt. But planning by Congress was horrible too.
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Are we really surprised though? He's pretty much been trying to instigate this sort of reaction since his election loss. He loved what he was seeing out there.
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Casciavit wrote:Are we really surprised though? He's pretty much been trying to instigate this sort of reaction since his election loss. He loved what he was seeing out there.
Textbook fascist party leader. Nothing to see here, next...
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Seems clear that today there was a coup attempt to stop the peaceful transfer of power in the US and prevent a democratically elected leader from taking office.
Sounds like the US could use a US intervention.
Sounds like the US could use a US intervention.
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On the good news side... Congress and Senate reconvened and will stay as long as needed to certify. Given the events, i doubt that they will object past the Arizona one (you never know with these Trump-tards though).
Get this over with.
Bigger issue is that there are reports from sources within the White House that Trump has literally "lost his mind". There's talk of invoking the 25th amendment or have Congress pass a censorship order against the President (happened to McCarthy in the past).
Another interesting part is that the secret services and the pentagon were coordinating with... Pence. No mention of Trump as if he didn't exist.
Only 15 days... but he can still do a lot of damage.
Get this over with.
Bigger issue is that there are reports from sources within the White House that Trump has literally "lost his mind". There's talk of invoking the 25th amendment or have Congress pass a censorship order against the President (happened to McCarthy in the past).
Another interesting part is that the secret services and the pentagon were coordinating with... Pence. No mention of Trump as if he didn't exist.
Only 15 days... but he can still do a lot of damage.
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this needs to end in impeachment ffs
I am drawing up Articles of Impeachment.
— Ilhan Omar (@IlhanMN) January 6, 2021
Donald J. Trump should be impeached by the House of Representatives & removed from office by the United States Senate.
We can’t allow him to remain in office, it’s a matter of preserving our Republic and we need to fulfill our oath.
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Election confirmation or next season of The Walking Dead... you guys decide
Also, this absolute madlad taking a pic in Pelosi's office (Sports is that you??)
Also, this absolute madlad taking a pic in Pelosi's office (Sports is that you??)
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People shouldn't think the capitol is not secure, the second a brown person sets a foot on the first front step, the Marines are going to helo in, and strafe everyone in a 500m radius with some warning salvos from a red-hot side mounted vulcan.
If one of those MAGA freaks had called for Medicaid for all anywhere around there, the cops would've shot all of them.
This is just white, not even fucking white, this was right-wing privilege at it's purest. Insane display. What a shithole banana republic the US have become. #sad
If one of those MAGA freaks had called for Medicaid for all anywhere around there, the cops would've shot all of them.
This is just white, not even fucking white, this was right-wing privilege at it's purest. Insane display. What a shithole banana republic the US have become. #sad
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#WeLoveItHere :hearteyes:
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USA faced a yes long-standing racism also before Trump, I'd say an institutional racism.
But after the arrival of Trump it was free for anti-Semites, racists , neo Nazis / Fascists, neo Confederates and yesterday's is not the end, it is perhaps the beginning.
Opened pandora's box.
For years, US counterterrorism experts have repeated that the greater danger to the national security is represented from internal terrorists, white supremacist terrorism, not the Arabs as someone tried to suggest .......
now we have a public face that has a following composed of 70 mln of consumers of any kind of crap
But after the arrival of Trump it was free for anti-Semites, racists , neo Nazis / Fascists, neo Confederates and yesterday's is not the end, it is perhaps the beginning.
Opened pandora's box.
For years, US counterterrorism experts have repeated that the greater danger to the national security is represented from internal terrorists, white supremacist terrorism, not the Arabs as someone tried to suggest .......
now we have a public face that has a following composed of 70 mln of consumers of any kind of crap
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Disgraceful to say the least, Trump is a criminal and should be charged as one with an attempted coup d'etat and a direct attack at the democratic transfer of power after Biden takes over.
There're idiots in every country. Legitimizing them is beyond decadent. Trump is a criminal full stop.
Robespierre wrote:USA faced a yes long-standing racism also before Trump, I'd say an institutional racism.
But after the arrival of Trump it was free for anti-Semites, racists , neo Nazis / Fascists, neo Confederates and yesterday's is not the end, it is perhaps the beginning.
Opened pandora's box.
For years, US counterterrorism experts have repeated that the greater danger to the national security is represented from internal terrorists, white supremacist terrorism, not the Arabs as someone tried to suggest .......
now we have a public face that has a following composed of 70 mln of consumers of any kind of crap
There're idiots in every country. Legitimizing them is beyond decadent. Trump is a criminal full stop.
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Trump isn't the only that should be removed. Hawley and Cruz should be forced to resign. McConnell, despite his speech, should be forced to resign. McCarthy as well. Rudi Giuliani needs to be arrested. Donald Trump Jr needs to be arrested.
There are so many Republicans in Congress who not only aided Trump in this massive misinformation campaign that led up to this, but willingly staked their political images on getting this election overturned when they knew it was impossible. They lied to people and told them otherwise. Trump is ultimately the most responsible, but he is not alone in that.
Right-wing media personalities like Hannity, Mark Levin, Carlson and so many others have propagandized this bullshit for 2 months. They've whipped these people into a lather and then clutched their pearls when the predictable happened.
None of these people will take responsibility for what happened. No one should expect them to. It's why they should be forced from their positions of power.
I listened to Republicans in both chambers magically find their spine yesterday. Too little too late. What happened yesterday will be in attack ads for decades to come. Every single one of them (not just the ones who objected to the electoral count) who supported Trump and enabled him needs to lose their seat.
This is what should happen. But it won't. I have no faith in Democrats' ability to seize this moment and crystalize it into a lockout of Republicans from positions of power for the foreseeable future.
There are so many Republicans in Congress who not only aided Trump in this massive misinformation campaign that led up to this, but willingly staked their political images on getting this election overturned when they knew it was impossible. They lied to people and told them otherwise. Trump is ultimately the most responsible, but he is not alone in that.
Right-wing media personalities like Hannity, Mark Levin, Carlson and so many others have propagandized this bullshit for 2 months. They've whipped these people into a lather and then clutched their pearls when the predictable happened.
None of these people will take responsibility for what happened. No one should expect them to. It's why they should be forced from their positions of power.
I listened to Republicans in both chambers magically find their spine yesterday. Too little too late. What happened yesterday will be in attack ads for decades to come. Every single one of them (not just the ones who objected to the electoral count) who supported Trump and enabled him needs to lose their seat.
This is what should happen. But it won't. I have no faith in Democrats' ability to seize this moment and crystalize it into a lockout of Republicans from positions of power for the foreseeable future.
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McLewis wrote:Trump isn't the only that should be removed. Hawley and Cruz should be forced to resign. McConnell, despite his speech, should be forced to resign. McCarthy as well. Rudi Giuliani needs to be arrested. Donald Trump Jr needs to be arrested.
There are so many Republicans in Congress who not only aided Trump in this massive misinformation campaign that led up to this, but willingly staked their political images on getting this election overturned when they knew it was impossible. They lied to people and told them otherwise. Trump is ultimately the most responsible, but he is not alone in that.
Right-wing media personalities like Hannity, Mark Levin, Carlson and so many others have propagandized this bullshit for 2 months. They've whipped these people into a lather and then clutched their pearls when the predictable happened.
None of these people will take responsibility for what happened. No one should expect them to. It's why they should be forced from their positions of power.
I listened to Republicans in both chambers magically find their spine yesterday. Too little too late. What happened yesterday will be in attack ads for decades to come. Every single one of them (not just the ones who objected to the electoral count) who supported Trump and enabled him needs to lose their seat.
This is what should happen. But it won't. I have no faith in Democrats' ability to seize this moment and crystalize it into a lockout of Republicans from positions of power for the foreseeable future.
Not all republicans are crazy, fanatic rednecks. I think a good portion of them were appaled by what they saw yesterday. If my assumption is right, republicans as a party are in deep sh*t come next years which is a good thing. They'll have to rebuild from scratch to be competitive again.
I agree with the rest of your ressentiments though. They should all lose their positions of power.
Democrats on the other hand should try to bring "people together" again to get a stronghold for years to come. No more splitting into meaningless pitiful factions should be the motto.
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McLewis wrote:I listened to Republicans in both chambers magically find their spine yesterday. Too little too late. What happened yesterday will be in attack ads for decades to come. Every single one of them (not just the ones who objected to the electoral count) who supported Trump and enabled him needs to lose their seat.
It was kind of amazing to finally see where Republicans hit a limit with Trump. Even Pence and McConnell disowned this, all while Trump was tweeting "I know how you feel". SMH.
McLewis wrote:This is what should happen. But it won't. I have no faith in Democrats' ability to seize this moment and crystalize it into a lockout of Republicans from positions of power for the foreseeable future.
Republicans should not be locked out of power. These people need a voice, and if they don't have one they will resort to violence again, and the next time it will be better planned and more effective. What Biden should do is elevate the moderate wing of the republican party by giving them a few calculated wins so that they once again have more sway than the right-wing nuts. That way the US democracy will be healthier.
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Nazis don't need a voice, and they certainly need to be locked out of power.BarrileteCosmico wrote:McLewis wrote:I listened to Republicans in both chambers magically find their spine yesterday. Too little too late. What happened yesterday will be in attack ads for decades to come. Every single one of them (not just the ones who objected to the electoral count) who supported Trump and enabled him needs to lose their seat.
It was kind of amazing to finally see where Republicans hit a limit with Trump. Even Pence and McConnell disowned this, all while Trump was tweeting "I know how you feel". SMH.McLewis wrote:This is what should happen. But it won't. I have no faith in Democrats' ability to seize this moment and crystalize it into a lockout of Republicans from positions of power for the foreseeable future.
Republicans should not be locked out of power. These people need a voice, and if they don't have one they will resort to violence again, and the next time it will be better planned and more effective. What Biden should do is elevate the moderate wing of the republican party by giving them a few calculated wins so that they once again have more sway than the right-wing nuts. That way the US democracy will be healthier.
No pussyfooting around it, sorry. This was a Nazi coup attempt with the help and instigation of the highest members and officials of the Republican party. These people all need to go to jail, really.
Giving them calculated wins? Textbook appeasement. It won't work. It will only work to push the framing further to the right. You give them a finger they'll take the whole people and put them in camps.
But of course Biden too is of the opinion that there are fine people on both sides, in the senate..
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The US needs more political parties, it's stupid to try to shoehorn that divided & diverse a nation into just two juggernaut parties.
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Art Morte wrote:The US needs more political parties, it's stupid to try to shoehorn that divided & diverse a nation into just two juggernaut parties.
Yes, absolutely. It's amazing what dumbing down ths division into two does to the whole political discourse, political scientists involved.
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