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Post by JespSwe on Sun Jun 28, 2020 10:50 pm

@M99 wrote:Parma :facepalm:

Snatching defeat from the jaws of victory.


yea man they just gave everything and then at threw towel with still like 20 mins to play ...
such a short term performance on pitch ... not good

also kucka should have known better - knowing referees in Serie A his whole career and how stupid and ass they can be - he just gave a reason to that referee to pull card ... :facepalm:


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Post by Kaladin on Mon Jun 29, 2020 7:17 am

Rashica-Rebic
Szoboszlai-Bennacer-Bakayoko-Thauvin
Theo-Romagnoli-Upamecano-Calabria
Donna

Looks like a top 4ish team to me

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Post by JespSwe on Mon Jun 29, 2020 9:22 am

@Kaladin wrote:
Rashica-Rebic
Szoboszlai-Bennacer-Bakayoko-Thauvin
Theo-Romagnoli-Upamecano-Calabria
Donna

Looks like a top 4ish team to me

lol looks too good to be true - but atleast calabria or conti or neither will play ! we already signed pierre kalulu who can plas RB or RCB. Also we just lost out to bayern for Tanguy Kouassi. he had lot of mind changing ... T.T

bakayoko is publicly saying he wants milan but he gotta have his salary sliced by more than half of what he earns at chelsea so dunno if he is going to do that.

The other targets - i will just be quiet XD and just let rangnick or fate decide. This serie A game dragging until august is not helping with early annoucement - we wont hear anything about rangnick until august.
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Post by Sina on Mon Jun 29, 2020 10:10 am

What a cameo by Muriel,incredible impact
For once Atalanta rode their luck tbh

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Post by JespSwe on Mon Jun 29, 2020 3:57 pm

@Sina wrote:What a cameo by Muriel,incredible impact
For once Atalanta rode their luck tbh


i have to watch highlights but atalanta has become one of those teams that regardless of who plays knows how to get results. even their subs are worthy of starting 11 and most importantly their players are flexible and comfortable playing where gasperini asks . win win for both coach and players

muriel loves serie A XD
i did see a few mins first half ; zapata is so damn strong and defenders cant get ball off him - amazing player
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Post by rincon on Mon Jun 29, 2020 4:36 pm

100% would take Zapata at Juve. He is in his prime and its great. I dont think he will leave, has the ideal situation at Atalanta, starts and plays CL.
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Post by Robespierre on Mon Jun 29, 2020 5:24 pm

Honestly .. signing players from Atalanta is a massive risk.
They really overperform on that system.
They're even the only club in the world to play with same energic intensity even in this coronafootball.
Sensational show.
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Post by Robespierre on Mon Jun 29, 2020 5:34 pm

Yesterday undeserved victory for Inter but just the three points were important. Also other bigs played bad matches in this period, I believe it's normal after this unexpected pause and start...

Bastoni like Schnellinger in '70, no idea why he was on area but he was and he scored it.

Kulusevski confirmed to be great
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Post by rincon on Mon Jun 29, 2020 6:21 pm

@Robespierre wrote:Honestly .. signing players from Atalanta is a massive risk.
They really overperform on that system.
They're even the only club in the world to play with same energic intensity even in this coronafootball.
Sensational show.

Particularly midfielders, it's why I woildnt sign Pasalic, Freuler, or De Roon. But Zapata's quality is clear. Strong, fast, and a good finisher and header. Very good striker.
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Post by JespSwe on Mon Jun 29, 2020 6:36 pm

@rincon wrote:
@Robespierre wrote:Honestly .. signing players from Atalanta is a massive risk.
They really overperform on that system.
They're even the only club in the world to play with same energic intensity even in this coronafootball.
Sensational show.

Particularly midfielders, it's why I woildnt sign Pasalic, Freuler, or De Roon. But Zapata's quality is clear. Strong, fast, and a good finisher and header. Very good striker.



i agree - just looking at kessie - the first season with us was actually great then he started to do his own thing while neglecting duty on the field just lettying bakayoko and now bennacer do his work ; same with conti looked almighty on the right flank at atalanta and now get so nervous and tries to avoid the ball
zapata is exception though absolutely legit and a great striker
i would refer malinovksiy out of all of them ; absolute tireless engine and technially sound and has a cannons on his feet

i feel like except few requirements of his own gasperini has allowed to express themselves in their best abilities hence player dont or nearly all of them dont complain or have heard anyone saying im on bench so i want to play more ; they are all getting what they want in return of what gasperini wants it seems - so getting them out of a perfectly working environment to fit in to someone else i agree would be massive risk

malinovsky though man i want him in my team so bad and pair with bakayoko!
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Post by JespSwe on Mon Jun 29, 2020 6:42 pm

@Robespierre wrote:Yesterday undeserved victory for Inter but just the three points were important. Also other bigs played bad matches in this period, I believe it's normal after this unexpected pause and start...

Bastoni like Schnellinger in '70, no idea why he was on area but he was and he scored it.

Kulusevski confirmed to be great


seems like all the young legit talents are picked by just juve and inter .... :facepalm: this pain has been going on and on for decades now ...
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Post by JespSwe on Mon Jun 29, 2020 7:38 pm

question to robes, vibe, RG and all supporters who watch serie a - was loosing lcardi worth it in comparison to playing lautaro? or you guys would have preferred icardi than lautaro (without considering the off-pitch fiasco)
reason why i ask is because lautaro hasn't strike me as a someone who is as good as icardi in terms of finishing or winning mentality... so i ask what you guys think?
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Post by rincon on Mon Jun 29, 2020 8:08 pm

Icardi is clearly better but he wasnt worth the trouble for Inter. The relationship was too broken. They got a good fee for him given the circumstances so I doubt any Inter fans are unhappy with the outcome.
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Post by Robespierre on Mon Jun 29, 2020 9:02 pm

@JespSwe wrote:question to robes, vibe, RG and all supporters who watch serie a - was loosing lcardi worth it in comparison to playing lautaro? or you guys would have preferred icardi than lautaro (without considering the off-pitch fiasco)
reason why i ask is because lautaro hasn't strike me as a someone who is as good as icardi in terms of finishing or winning mentality... so i ask what you guys think?


For me Icardi suffers to play with another CF close to him, he need of a whole team to assist him
Lautaro is more able to play for the team

Basically a Lautaro - Lukaku partnership works, a Icardi-Lautaro partnership 'd not work .
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Post by Warrior on Mon Jun 29, 2020 10:09 pm

@rincon wrote:
@Robespierre wrote:Honestly .. signing players from Atalanta is a massive risk.
They really overperform on that system.
They're even the only club in the world to play with same energic intensity even in this coronafootball.
Sensational show.

Particularly midfielders, it's why I woildnt sign Pasalic, Freuler, or De Roon. But Zapata's quality is clear. Strong, fast, and a good finisher and header. Very good striker.



How about Hateboer ?
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Post by JespSwe on Mon Jun 29, 2020 10:39 pm

@rincon wrote:Icardi is clearly better but he wasnt worth the trouble for Inter. The relationship was too broken. They got a good fee for him given the circumstances so I doubt any Inter fans are unhappy with the outcome.

the reason i asked this is for few reasons

- lautaro's 100 m clause is due to expire soon on July
- Marotta's public declaration that suitors who pay 100 million can have lautaro
- lautaro with the whole idea of barca interest certainly looks distracted
- inter upfront doesn't look as lethal as they were with icardi who just needed few chance to get them important goals

if relationship or off field antics alone was worth icardi being shipped out i can understand XD ; though lets remember when he was on his prime he was 100 million guy
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Post by JespSwe on Mon Jun 29, 2020 10:42 pm

@Robespierre wrote:
@JespSwe wrote:question to robes, vibe, RG and all supporters who watch serie a - was loosing lcardi worth it in comparison to playing lautaro? or you guys would have preferred icardi than lautaro (without considering the off-pitch fiasco)
reason why i ask is because lautaro hasn't strike me as a someone who is as good as icardi in terms of finishing or winning mentality... so i ask what you guys think?


For me Icardi suffers to play with another CF close to him, he need of a whole team to assist him
Lautaro is more able to play for the team

Basically a Lautaro - Lukaku partnership works, a Icardi-Lautaro partnership 'd not work .


but u guys boast one of the best midfield ; and yet lautaro doesnt looks to be a regular scorer nor much of a creator on his own right ; icardi just need one chance to score and he wins u games no?
lautaro is a team player yes but never seen or yet to see him really decisive ....

would u be happy then if barca takes him away ? cuz i personally think u guys would laugh at barca's back if they are willing to pay his clause ; this would be like worse than ibra - eto deal much worse no?

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Post by JespSwe on Mon Jun 29, 2020 10:44 pm

@Warrior wrote:
@rincon wrote:
@Robespierre wrote:Honestly .. signing players from Atalanta is a massive risk.
They really overperform on that system.
They're even the only club in the world to play with same energic intensity even in this coronafootball.
Sensational show.

Particularly midfielders, it's why I woildnt sign Pasalic, Freuler, or De Roon. But Zapata's quality is clear. Strong, fast, and a good finisher and header. Very good striker.



How about Hateboer ?


feels hateboer is a fit to only atalanta ; feels like he can't adapt in other teams like most alatanta players - they are all tailor made for that team only except few
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Post by rincon on Tue Jun 30, 2020 10:39 am

@Warrior wrote:
@rincon wrote:
@Robespierre wrote:Honestly .. signing players from Atalanta is a massive risk.
They really overperform on that system.
They're even the only club in the world to play with same energic intensity even in this coronafootball.
Sensational show.

Particularly midfielders, it's why I woildnt sign Pasalic, Freuler, or De Roon. But Zapata's quality is clear. Strong, fast, and a good finisher and header. Very good striker.



How about Hateboer ?

Weirdly tall for a fullback but fine player. Wouldnt start over Cuadrado but may be a better backup than Danilo simply because he offers something more different. Good for defending set pieces, tall, athletic, something different.

Gosens looks better on the left.
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Post by Robespierre on Tue Jun 30, 2020 1:46 pm

Anyway Inter play with 3-5-2 and I'd take willingly the risk for Gosens

yes fullbacks under Gasperini are another thing, who reminds Conti etc but also given alternatives ... he 's expensive anyway
Better than Hateboer  though
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Post by rincon on Tue Jun 30, 2020 3:04 pm

Excluding Papu and Ilicic as they are older. Players I rate most for a possible big club move are:

Zapata (shouldn't move though)
Gosens
Malinovskiy

I still believe Caldara will recover. I think a CB can bounce back from such injuries. Pasalic is interesting as he is younger, but midfielders attacking the box are perfect for Gasperini's system, it's hard not to be deceived, just look at Cristante.
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Post by Warrior on Tue Jun 30, 2020 3:35 pm

Pirlo is now coach of U23
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Post by rincon on Tue Jun 30, 2020 6:40 pm

Belotti!!!!

Torino 1-0 at 5 minutes. Now to resist Lazio.
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Post by JespSwe on Tue Jun 30, 2020 6:41 pm

@Warrior wrote:Pirlo is now coach of U23

yea - thats cool that juve have a b-team and pirlo being closely associated can give good assessment if b team players can jump in senior team or not
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Post by JespSwe on Tue Jun 30, 2020 6:41 pm

@rincon wrote:Belotti!!!!

Torino 1-0 at 5 minutes. Now to resist Lazio.

today is game day? oh man ... july going to be busy
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Post by BarrileteCosmico on Tue Jun 30, 2020 7:41 pm

I came in here to say that Torino should throw the game, but just 6 points off 18th they need all the points they can get

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