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Post by Firenze Fri Mar 09, 2018 10:03 am

What's going on this season? Almost every big money move for the big clubs has been a flop or regressed to a huge extent from the season before, off the top of my head;

Kalinic
Bonucci
Sanchez
Tolisso
Lacazette
Dembele
Mbappe
Morata
Coutinho
Merino
Lukaku
Balde Diao
Solanke
Bernardeschi
Patrik Shitck
Diego Costa
Laporte (not played much but looks shite so far)
Kessie
Silva

You may disagree with a few names but it's still a fact that a lot of these lads are massively under-performing to expectations and the excuse of youth only applies for a few of them if you want to go that route

that's just transfers too, the list of 'top players' that are performing at a low level compared to the standard they set last season would probably be double.

I think it's clear looking at that list that top teams are signing players too quickly nowadays, after just 6 months of decent to good form. The only big signings I can think of that have been successes so far are Salah and Matic.

Don't @ me if you're angry I mentioned  a player you're fond of. I told no lies.
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Post by Firenze Fri Mar 09, 2018 10:05 am

Forgot to include Konstantinos Mavropanos. Absolute FRAUD.
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Post by rincon Fri Mar 09, 2018 10:12 am

Agree with the thread, disagree with Bernardeschi. What did he do wrong? the kid has more G+A than Mandzukic, Cuadrado and Costa in a fraction of minutes plus he plays great all around. He is just injured, he's been one of our standout guys. If you want to include one from Juve, its Pjaca.

Schick is a huge one. Had the heart condition going on and then the injury but he just disappeared even after returning to play.

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I think it's clear looking at that list that top teams are signing players too quickly nowadays, after just 6 months of decent to good form.


Banter aside this is a big one. I've said it before in the Juve section. Almost none of the youngster deserve to be signed so quickly by big teams. It just became a cycle that you either jump the gun and sign them, or you end up paying 10 times the price after a season.

Pretty much exactly what happened to us and Bentancur. We had to sign just so we could do it cheap in the case that he turned out big. He's been good but he shouldn't be with us, should be in a smaller team getting more minutes.


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Post by Luca Fri Mar 09, 2018 10:14 am

Bernardeschi is no fraud mate

Rest of the list looks decent though

Did you intentionally leave out Bakayoko? One of the worst signings of all time surely

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Post by rincon Fri Mar 09, 2018 10:16 am

Bakayoko, Nani, Kondogbia (not this season but fits the best)
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Post by Firenze Fri Mar 09, 2018 10:19 am

Forgot all about Bakayoko tbh. Certainly the worst signing this season. 2017/18 Renato Sanches.
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Post by Luca Fri Mar 09, 2018 10:24 am

I think what makes Bakayoko especially poor is letting Matic go to United too, sucks every way you look at it

What about the 56 fullbacks City signed, how are they doing? I know its hard to pick out flops in their squad because they're really good but still, Danilo mate?

Mendy is class but I understand he got hurt early on, kind of unfair

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Post by rincon Fri Mar 09, 2018 10:25 am

Mendy is good.

Danilo is a huge fraud.
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Post by Firenze Fri Mar 09, 2018 10:27 am

Mendy's basically been injured the entire season so the verdict's still out. Danilo is terrible though..the thing is everyone expected him to be, it's just that the fee they paid for him was pretty high IIRC. Not really sure I'd call him a flop based on that - but the pricetag attached kinda makes him one I guess. Same with Lindelof. but 25m is a standard depth signing in the PL. Look at Chelsea with Drinkwater lol.
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Post by Luca Fri Mar 09, 2018 10:29 am

Wingardium Lindelofa is at least a wonderful meme though, slightly redeeming hmm

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Post by chemicalboy99 Fri Mar 09, 2018 10:46 am

Laporte looks a thousand times better than that scrub Lindelof who you seemed to have forgotten about. How can somebody look so smug and yet be so $hit. According to Redcafe he's so terrible he makes the Pogba signing look good.

Ederson's brilliance last season masking this absolute turd.
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Post by Firenze Fri Mar 09, 2018 10:49 am

one of them was a depth signing that cost 25m, the other cost 65m and people forget he even exists. Lindelof is shite but he isn't a flop because nobody expected anything from him. Similar to Danilo. But if you want I can meet you in the middle and agree that all three of them are shite.
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Post by chemicalboy99 Fri Mar 09, 2018 11:13 am

Firenze wrote:one of them was a depth signing that cost 25m, the other cost 65m and people forget he even exists. Lindelof is shite but he isn't a flop because nobody expected anything from him. Similar to Danilo. But if you want I can meet you in the middle and agree that all three of them are shite.


Not even close. Laporte has seamlessly integrated himself into the Premier's league best defensive unit and even Danilo has played better than Lindelof (dont @ me.....whoscored is your daddy).
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Post by Robespierre Fri Mar 09, 2018 9:14 pm

Bernardeschi was not fraud tbh
Played quite well and scored important goals
The rest seems good
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Post by Harmonica Fri Mar 09, 2018 10:46 pm

Where's Fakenaldo, biggest fraud ever?
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Post by zigra Sat Mar 10, 2018 12:07 am

Busy winning his third CL in a row.
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Post by Kaladin Sat Mar 10, 2018 12:30 am

Bundesliga and Dutch league
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Post by Harmonica Sat Mar 10, 2018 2:08 am

zigra wrote:Busy winning his third CL in a row.
And Dembele is pwning Fraudnaldo in Liga, where they actually play the same opponents.
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Post by zigra Sat Mar 10, 2018 2:31 am

Couldn't even find Dembele in the top 150 of La Liga on whoscored.. wtf are you smoking Laughing
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Post by terrance511 Sat Mar 10, 2018 2:58 am

no wonder zidane didn't want to buy anyone Proud
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Post by Firenze Sat Mar 10, 2018 3:04 am

terrance511 wrote:no wonder zidane didn't want to buy anyone Proud


absolute visionary

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Post by Harmonica Sat Mar 10, 2018 3:47 am

zigra wrote:Couldn't even find Dembele in the top 150 of La Liga on whoscored.. wtf are you smoking Laughing
That't because Dembele is busy winning the Liga. hmm
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Post by Art Morte Sat Mar 10, 2018 4:31 am

You're clutching at straws with many of those names.

Coutinho has had few games, Dembele the same, Lacazette deserves more time (although I'm not optimistic about him, Giroud was probably better), Morata was never going to live up to the price tag, Solanke hasn't really played and Mbabbe and Costa have been rather good - while "top" Serie A signings are so-so whether they should be taken seriously anyway.
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