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Post by sportsczy Mon Sep 25, 2017 3:52 pm

Illegal tickets trafficking. They will never learn Laughing

https://www.lequipe.fr/Football/Actualites/Le-president-de-la-juventus-andrea-agnelli-suspendu-un-an/837280
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Post by Kaladin Mon Sep 25, 2017 3:54 pm

Criminals will always be criminals
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Post by Luca Mon Sep 25, 2017 3:55 pm

We are innocent

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Post by Doc Mon Sep 25, 2017 4:43 pm

So with the help of google and my sis who actually knows French, did not know selling tickets to Ultras is an illegal act worthy of suspension.

Also, in case one is too lazy to open the article, here's what google has to say:

Professor Google wrote:Accused of having participated in an illegal ticket traffic, Juventus president Andrea Agnelli (41) was sentenced Monday to one year suspension and 20,000 euros fine. Three other executives - the sales manager, the security manager and the ticket office manager - were given the same penalty, while the Turin club will pay 300,000 euros.

In office since 2010, Agnelli - also president of the European Association of Clubs (ECA) - reportedly sold tickets to groups of ultras for some infiltrated by the "Ndrangheta" , the Calabrian mafia. The prosecutor of the sports court had requested a two and a half year suspension against him and the extension of the sanction at European level, as well as two games in camera for Juventus.
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Post by sportsczy Mon Sep 25, 2017 10:51 pm

When the ultra group is a front for the mafia... it's a problem.
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Post by Warrior Tue Sep 26, 2017 3:03 am

Some prime bs this

It's a disciplinary decision from FIGC and we're going in appeal. The only crime was selling tickets in big bundles, instead of selling them in package of 4. The main buyer has ties with the calabrese mafia, nothing else, no where it was proven that our "ultra group is a front for the mafia".

Let me suppose Andrea Agnelli needs to know personally everyone in Italy, and who they are hanging with ? Ridiculous.
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Post by Perucho21 Tue Sep 26, 2017 3:19 am

Hopefully this demoralizes Dybala, forcing him to be dropped against Peru and become a spectator to Argentina's demise by the hands of Los Incas
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Post by Warrior Tue Sep 26, 2017 3:26 am

i don't think Dybala sincerely cares about Juventus, even less about what happens in Agnelli's life
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Post by M99 Tue Sep 26, 2017 4:38 am

I love how Perucho brings up Peru vs Argentina in every thread Laughing
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Post by sportsczy Tue Sep 26, 2017 5:17 am

The main buyer is a mafia guy.  Come on.  If it walks like a duck, quacks like a duck....  it's probably a duck.

What a coincidence that the owner of the club sells (illegally) bulk tickets to a group whose main buyer is mafia.
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Post by Warrior Tue Sep 26, 2017 6:55 am

For whatever reason (and i insist this need explanations) Juve sold a shit load of tickets to the same person, which is apparently illegal. That's what Agnelli is blamed for, the reason of his 1 year ban.

The rest are speculations. As far as i've read, there is no proof that Juventus receive any benefit from the second-hand ticket sale.
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Post by Hapless_Hans Tue Sep 26, 2017 9:10 am

sportsczy wrote:The main buyer is a mafia guy.  Come on.  If it walks like a duck, quacks like a duck....  it's probably a duck.

What a coincidence that the owner of the club sells (illegally) bulk tickets to a group whose main buyer is mafia.  


Exactly Laughing

Also, surely Agnelli now has to step dow as ECA president, where he was just elected, too?
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Post by DeviAngel Tue Sep 26, 2017 11:00 pm

Hapless_Hans wrote:
sportsczy wrote:The main buyer is a mafia guy.  Come on.  If it walks like a duck, quacks like a duck....  it's probably a duck.

What a coincidence that the owner of the club sells (illegally) bulk tickets to a group whose main buyer is mafia.  


Exactly Laughing

Also, surely Agnelli now has to step dow as ECA president, where he was just elected, too?


Nope he can and probably will keep that role. Juventus will appeal and I'm sure the sentence will be reduced.
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Post by Doc Tue Sep 26, 2017 11:24 pm

Well, to be fair, this has more to do with Agnelli than Juventus. Gonna assume Jjuve got fined by association. Agnelli is the the guilty part (along with the 3 others that the article referenced).
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Post by sportsczy Wed Sep 27, 2017 12:21 am

It's Juve's tickets.  The president of the club either had to buy the tickets in bulk from his own club (which would be illegal too btw) and then sell them to this group... or juve is involved.

It's like saying it was the CEO's fault for making the decision so the company shouldn't be liable.  It doesn't work like that.
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Post by Doc Wed Sep 27, 2017 12:29 am

Yeah never quite get how people can separate it really. Agnelli represents Jjuve and did what he did on behalf of Jjuve and thus Jjuve got fined. Not suspended, just fined. Agnelli, being the guilty one, got the bulk of the punishment.
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Post by Warrior Wed Sep 27, 2017 12:31 am

No it's Juventus fault for selling their own tickets. But it's a minor crime, nobody cares about that to be honest.
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Post by sportsczy Wed Sep 27, 2017 12:35 am

Warrior wrote:No it's Juventus fault for selling their own tickets. But it's a minor crime, nobody cares about that to be honest.

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It's no longer about being criminals anymore... it's degrees of criminality now.
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Post by rincon Wed Sep 27, 2017 12:37 am

Nobody cares about this.
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Post by Doc Wed Sep 27, 2017 12:39 am

Clearly someone cares since Agnelli got suspended for it.
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Post by Luca Wed Sep 27, 2017 2:05 am

Doc wrote:Clearly someone cares since Agnelli got suspended for it.


To be fair, rincon meant this isn't really thread worthy. I remember this being announced last season some time and now we have a thread because there was a ruling, which is pending appeal.

Lets say Juve is successful in the appeal- probably reduce the ban and/or the fine, I promise there will be no thread for it Laughing

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Post by Warrior Wed Sep 27, 2017 2:38 am

Damn right Luca, not even a GL threadworthy-crime.

Agnelli is not a player, who cares if he's suspended lol. Worst case scenario is he'll just watch the games at home and that will suffice. It's a symbolic punishment, the equivalent of a slap on the wrist.
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Post by Kaladin Wed Sep 27, 2017 2:47 am

Should've been banned from football, behaviour like this should not be tolerated

Before you downventus my ass, i'd say the same if Galliani or any Milan board did such a thing, reprehensible behaviour
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Post by Luca Wed Sep 27, 2017 2:54 am

The name Agnelli and Juventus is one that that will never be separate brother @es

The club will obviously stand with him

All y’all act too innocently for my liking

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Post by Hapless_Hans Wed Sep 27, 2017 9:17 am

Doc wrote:Clearly someone cares since Agnelli got suspended for it.


Exactly Laughing

Also, we are making posts in a thread that someone made. We care.
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