EPL Managerial Death-match 17/18

This season's contestants are:

Tier One

Antonio Conte
Arsène Wenger
José Mourinho
Jürgen Klopp
Mauricio Pochettino
Pep Guardiola

Wenger vs Klopp later in the night.

Tier Two

Craig Shakespeare (Leicester)
David Wagner (Huddersfield)
Eddie Howe (Bournemouth)
Marco Silva (Watford)
Mark Hughes (Stoke)
Rafael Benitez (Newcastle)
Ronald Koeman (Everton)

Wenger belongs to tier two, at best.

U got a couple of repeats too in both tiers?

Arsène Wenger 1-0-0-1-0
Jürgen Klopp 1-1-0-0-3

Klopp - 3 points - 1 game
Conte - 3 points - 1 game
Mou - 0 points - 0 game
Pep - 0 points - 0 game
Poch - 0 points - 1 game
Wenger - 0 points - 1 game

Thanks Ifti for ressurrecting the Death Match for this season

Now with two tiers, 1st and 2nd division

This is only right seeing the unbelievable density of interesting managers in this GOAT league

Now, Bilic was rightly left out because he's gone very soon, probably, De Boer was rightly left out because he's playing in a league of his own.
The others, Clement, Pellegrino, Dyche, Hughton, were rightly left out because they lack star power and we don't really care about them, until further notice.

But let's add Pulis to the Death Match 2nd division!! He deserves it (and will probably boss it, too).

EPL Managerial Death-Match, 2nd Division

Games played:

West Brom vs Bournemouth 1-0
Everton vs Stoke 1-0
Bournemouth vs Watford 0-2
Huddersfield vs Newcastle 1-0
West Brom vs Stoke 1-1

Table:

1. Pulis 4 points 2 games
2. Koeman 3 points 1 game
    Silva 3 points 1 game
   Wagner 3 points 1 game
5. Hughes 1 point 2 games
6. Shakespeare 0 points 0 games
7. Benitez 0 points 1 game
8. Howe 0 points 2 games

BarcaLearning wrote:Wenger belongs to tier two, at best.

+1

EPL Managerial Death-Match, 2nd Division

Games played (newly added games in red):

West Brom vs Bournemouth 1-0
Everton vs Stoke 1-0
Bournemouth vs Watford 0-2
Huddersfield vs Newcastle 1-0
West Brom vs Stoke 1-1
Huddersfield vs Leicester 1-1
Newcastle vs Stoke 2-1
Everton vs Bournemouth 2-1


Table:

1. Koeman 6 points 2 games
2. Pulis 4 points 2 games   
    Wagner 4 points 2 games
4. Silva 3 points 1 game
5. Benitez 3 points 2 games
6. Shakespeare 1 points 1 game
7. Hughes 1 point 3 games
8. Howe 0 points 3 games

I was about to say WTF is Benitez doing there, but then i realised this is for non top 6 teams

EPL Managerial Death-Match, Tier One

Tottenham Chelsea: 1-2
Liverpool Arsenal: 4-0
Manchester City Liverpool: 5-0
Chelsea Arsenal: 0-0

Conte: 4 points (two games)
Guardiola: 3 points (one game)
Klopp: 3 points (two games)
Wenger: 1 point (two games)
Pochettino: 0 point (one game)
Mourinho: 0 points (No Games)

EPL Managerial Death-Match, Tier One

Tottenham Chelsea: 1-2
Liverpool Arsenal: 4-0
Manchester City Liverpool: 5-0
Chelsea Arsenal: 0-0
Chelsea Manchester City: 0-1

Guardiola: 6 points (two game)
Conte: 4 points (three games)
Klopp: 3 points (two games)
Wenger: 1 point (two games)
Pochettino: 0 point (one game)
Mourinho: 0 points (No Games )

United in the next 4 games in the PL they have Liverpool, Spurs and Chelsea.

Wenger does NOT belong in Tier 1.

iftikhar wrote:EPL Managerial Death-Match, Tier One

Tottenham Chelsea: 1-2
Liverpool Arsenal: 4-0
Manchester City Liverpool: 5-0
Chelsea Arsenal: 0-0
Chelsea Manchester City: 0-1

Guardiola: 6 points (two game)
Conte: 4 points (three games)
Klopp: 3 points (two games)
Wenger: 1 point (two games)
Pochettino: 0 point (one game)
Mourinho: 0 points (No Games )

Guardiola

Sri wrote:Wenger does NOT belong in Tier 1.

Finished ahead of Mourinho last season and has finished top 4 in each of the 20 years before so definitively part of the top 6 manager tier.

Leave us alone with your personal resentment and petty emotional stuff

Hapless_Hans wrote:

Sri wrote:Wenger does NOT belong in Tier 1.

Finished ahead of Mourinho last season and has finished top 4 in each of the 20 years before so definitively part of the top 6 manager tier.

Leave us alone with your personal resentment and petty emotional stuff

Can't drive on the Autobahn by only looking in the rear view mirrors while the other cars around are speeding ahead at 200 kmph.

Leave us alone with your petty apologetic alibis for a past it manager.

Sri wrote:

Hapless_Hans wrote:

Sri wrote:Wenger does NOT belong in Tier 1.

Finished ahead of Mourinho last season and has finished top 4 in each of the 20 years before so definitively part of the top 6 manager tier.

Leave us alone with your personal resentment and petty emotional stuff

Can't drive on the Autobahn by only looking in the rear view mirrors while the other cars around are speeding ahead at 200 kmph.

Leave us alone with your petty apologetic alibis for a past it manager.

This thread is not based on preconceived, non-measurable notions like placing managers in some metaphorical vector of past, present, and future. It is only concerned with the results between the teams managed by the top 6 managers of the PL, one of which happens to be Arsene Wenger.

Now stop complaining. Every year the same with you ffs.

Can't believe Sri stopped complaining. That's so not Sri ?!
Sri is everything well, brother?

Anyway.


EPL Managerial Death-Match, 2nd Division

Games played (newly added games in red):

West Brom vs Bournemouth 1-0
Everton vs Stoke 1-0
Bournemouth vs Watford 0-2
Huddersfield vs Newcastle 1-0
West Brom vs Stoke 1-1
Huddersfield vs Leicester 1-1
Newcastle vs Stoke 2-1
Everton vs Bournemouth 2-1
Bournemouth vs Leicester 0-0
West Brom vs Watford 2-2

Table:

1. Koeman 6 points 2 games
2. Pulis 5 points 3 games    
3. Silva 4 points 2 games  
   Wagner 4 points 2 games
5. Benitez 3 points 2 games
6. Shakespeare 2 points 2 games
7. Hughes 1 point 3 games
8. Howe 1 points 4 games

Hans wrote:1. Koeman 7 points 3 games

iftikhar wrote:

Hans wrote:1. Koeman 7 points 3 games

What a minute. He is not Leicester coach is he?

Thanks Ifti! Brainfart on my part.

Tottenham Chelsea: 1-2
Liverpool Arsenal: 4-0
Manchester City Liverpool: 5-0
Chelsea Arsenal: 0-0
Chelsea Manchester City: 0-1
Liverpool United: 0-0

Guardiola: 6 points (two game)
Conte: 4 points (three games)
Klopp: 4 points (three games)
Wenger: 1 point (two games)
Mourinho: 1 points (one game)
Pochettino: 0 point (one game)

Tottenham Chelsea: 1-2
Liverpool Arsenal: 4-0
Manchester City Liverpool: 5-0
Chelsea Arsenal: 0-0
Chelsea Manchester City: 0-1
Liverpool United: 0-0
Tottenham Liverpool 4-1

Guardiola: 6 points (two game)
Conte: 4 points (three games)
Klopp: 4 points (four games)
Pochettino: 3 point (two game)
Wenger: 1 point (two games)
Mourinho: 1 points (one game)

Pure banter if Mourinho's negative approach will win him last spot over Wenger's tactical and mental ineptness.

Both Shakespeare and Koeman already gone. Not sure what we should do here.
Bizarrely, Bilic is still there whom I only excluded as I anticipated his imminent sacking.