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Post by Kaladin Sun May 21, 2017 4:59 pm

EL final next season booked:

Milan v Arsenal

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Post by Firenze Sun May 21, 2017 5:00 pm

amazing goal from Ramsey

anyone else think Koeman will/should be sacked this summer?

OK they finished behind the teams they were always going to finish behind but IMO he's underachieved


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Post by urbaNRoots Sun May 21, 2017 5:00 pm

Well deserved for Liverpool and City, it'll be weird not to be in the CL next season but then with Wenger staying I wouldn't have bothered to watch anyway.

If we can scrape an FA Cup win and then Wenger leaves-- I'll be the happiest fan in the world. Or if Wenger just leaves, I'll still be the happiest fan in the world.
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Post by CBarca Sun May 21, 2017 5:01 pm

Spurs will be kicking themselves for that poor early season form. Even turning a couple of those draws into wins would have won Spurs the title.

Incredible title win by Chelsea. I feel like Spurs have been insanely consistent and very good over the course of the season and yet Chelsea still won comfortably. They just wouldn't stop.

Quite maddening for this to happen for the second year in a row though. At least Chelsea are actually a good team though, Leicester had no business winning the games they did.

Happy with the team though. Hopefully bring back Lamela and Rose and have more luck with injuries this season and Spurs will be challenging again. No doubt about it, next season Spurs have to either win something or at least do some damage in the CL. This group of players is too good to continue having trophyless seasons.
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Post by Jay29 Sun May 21, 2017 5:01 pm

We're going to lose the cup final and Wenger will extend for two more years. That's the end of season we're getting. rofl

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Post by Helmer Sun May 21, 2017 5:03 pm

Great Leader Sprucenuce wrote:
Helmer wrote:we need a top class CM next season. Wij, Can and Henderson are not enough imo. Klopp once sorts out defence, we will also be up there with others then.


Realistically you need another CF and another dynamic attacker (if that CF isn't that) imo.

Without Mane your forwards are a bit uninspiring imo.

I think that dynamic attacker will not be easy to get. We need to be lucky because all teams will be changing and shuffling squads. We have to somehow find Suarez, Sanchez who are unwanted by top clubs and the player wants to join our club. Otherwise it would be very difficult to get someone better than Mane or even someone equal.
But CM is a must. Our defence panics because our MF can only press and attack but cant controll the games.

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Helmer wrote:we need a top class CM next season. Wij, Can and Henderson are not enough imo. Klopp once sorts out defence, we will also be up there with others then.


all banter and bait aside, you need about 10 decent squad signings IMO, can't underestimate The CL+PL schedule, you should worry about it because of Klopp's history of running his players into the ground and not rotating properly

signing 10 players in one window would be most stupid thing to do realistically Laughing we need to somehow manage with academy upcoming talents and players from last few windows but did not see much game time this season.

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Post by Nishankly Sun May 21, 2017 5:04 pm

So much salt around. I love this.
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Post by Unique Sun May 21, 2017 5:04 pm

Firenze wrote:amazing goal from Ramsey

anyone else think Koeman will/should be sacked this summer?

OK they finished behind the teams they were always going to finish behind but IMO he's underachieved
Everton only finished 8 points behind you.
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Post by Firenze Sun May 21, 2017 5:05 pm

yeah but both Arsenal and United have been shite in the league this season for various reasons

a decent manager would have probably had Everton finish above us, I mean losing 3-1 to an Arsenal that had 10 men for 75 mins?


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Post by Nishankly Sun May 21, 2017 5:05 pm

CBarca wrote:We will be kicking ourselves for that poor early season form. Even turning a couple of those draws into wins would have won us the title.

Incredible title win by Chelsea. I feel like we have been insanely consistent and very good over the course of the season and yet Chelsea still won comfortably. They just wouldn't stop.

Quite maddening for this to happen for the second year in a row though. At least Chelsea are actually a good team though, Leicester had no business winning the games they did.

Happy with the team though. Hopefully we bring back Lamela and Rose and have more luck with injuries this season and Spurs will be challenging again. No doubt about it, next season we have to either win something or at least do some damage in the CL. This group of players is too good to continue having trophyless seasons.


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Post by Blue Sun May 21, 2017 5:07 pm

Firenze wrote:
Blue wrote:
Firenze wrote:
Stones is a complete clown..there aren't too many good CB's out there


Maybe the clown is Pep, if he was at Chelsea under Conte he would be a top CB.

nothing to do with Pep, Stones has had many chances and he has at least 1 massive individual error per game

He's not a defender IMO, his positional sense and thought process shows that and unlike Luiz he doesn't have the physical attributes to make up for some of his shortcomings


But that is typical under mangers who put little emphasis on the defending side of the game, it shows on the players concentration and focus.

Anyway sad how this transpired, he really wanted to come to Chelsea a few seasons ago. But he can thank Martinez and Everton.
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Post by Firenze Sun May 21, 2017 5:07 pm

I'm only salty that EPL coefficient will take a hit with Loserpool crashing out in the qualifiers tbh, better hope you get a lucky draw, plenty of teams in the qualifiers will batter you
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Post by Unique Sun May 21, 2017 5:07 pm

Firenze wrote:yeah but both Arsenal and United have been shite in the league this season for various reasons

a decent manager would have probably had Everton finish above us, I mean losing 3-1 to an Arsenal that had 10 men for 75 mins?
next season will be the killer for him when lukaku and Barkley leave.
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Post by Firenze Sun May 21, 2017 5:08 pm

Barkley is shit Laughing

most overhyped English talent since Tom the chav Stupidly or Phil Jones
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Post by Unique Sun May 21, 2017 5:09 pm

Firenze wrote:Barkley is shit Laughing

most overhyped English talent since Tom the chav Stupidly
he is still a player they rely on.
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Post by Firenze Sun May 21, 2017 5:10 pm

he's easily replaceable though

Lukaku will be a massive blow but you would think with the money they get they can improve the core of the team

obviously they won't be signing players of Lukaku's caliber though
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Post by Nishankly Sun May 21, 2017 5:10 pm

Firenze wrote:I'm only salty that EPL coefficient will take a hit with Loserpool crashing out in the qualifiers tbh, better hope you get a lucky draw, plenty of teams in the qualifiers will batter you


You should be hoping Ajax smashes you then, Y'all will be massacred in the CL if we'd be battered.
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Post by Helmer Sun May 21, 2017 5:13 pm

Jay29 wrote:Spurs end the season with the most goals scored, the least goals conceded and the league's top scorer.

Congratulations Liverpool on the 4th placed trophy.


Spurs are the most useless team ever. Last time they were in EL, they could have easily won a trophy. They need to start fighting whatever trophy they can fight for. Even small cup finals and semifinals prepare the players psychologically and mentally to fight for titles and big trophies. That loss against WestHam showed exactly that.

All this will go to waste if Poc does not win even FA or Carling up befre he eventually leaves for some club in next 2 seasons. I said this already, as long as they have this great squad they need to win something.


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Post by urbaNRoots Sun May 21, 2017 5:29 pm

Koeman "Barkley was one of the players who didn't show productivity today. We need to change, we need to find players with productivity #EFC

lol

Where's he going? Tottenham?
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Post by RealGunner Sun May 21, 2017 5:30 pm

Probably palace

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Post by Firenze Sun May 21, 2017 5:31 pm



one of the cringest things I've seen, unreal commentary

a bunch of Fifa youtubers against a bunch of more famous FIFA youtube melts playing in front of a crowd that's bigger than the average Serie A attendance rofl

crowd dominated of 12 year olds and their parents
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Post by CBarca Sun May 21, 2017 5:31 pm

Don't think Tottenham will want him unless they think they can turn him into Dembele 2.0, but he doesn't really have the same body, defensive ability, or positional sense.
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Post by Great Leader Sprucenuce Sun May 21, 2017 5:31 pm

Barkley wouldn't start for anyone above Everton so he's going to someones bench as i can't see him dropping enough ego to drop down to someone like us for example.


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Post by Firenze Sun May 21, 2017 5:32 pm

urbaNRoots wrote:Koeman "Barkley was one of the players who didn't show productivity today. We need to change, we need to find players with productivity #EFC

lol

Where's he going? Tottenham?


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Post by RealGunner Sun May 21, 2017 5:34 pm

David Moyes reveals #SAFC agree to put the ball out in the 26th minute so John Terry could have his send off.



Pretty sure that's spot fixing.
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