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Post by Freeza Mon Mar 27, 2017 11:30 am

Unique wrote:so it turns out that maybe Obama did tap his phones by accident Laughing


What's your source?

Besides. Snowden confirmed everyone was getting spied on by the NSA. Which all goes back to post 9/11 surveillance politics.

Doubt there was a targeted tap of Trump.

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Post by Unique Mon Mar 27, 2017 12:57 pm

Freeza wrote:
Unique wrote:so it turns out that maybe Obama did tap his phones by accident Laughing


What's your source?

Besides. Snowden confirmed everyone was getting spied on by the NSA. Which all goes back to post 9/11 surveillance politics.

Doubt there was a targeted tap of Trump.
yeah right rofl
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Post by Freeza Mon Mar 27, 2017 3:02 pm

What are you laughing at? Please explain why they would target Trump specifically. And how would he know?

Also please reveal your source? I'd like to see which Breitbart article it is this time.
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Post by Unique Mon Mar 27, 2017 6:25 pm

Freeza wrote:What are you laughing at? Please explain why they would target Trump specifically. And how would he know?

Also please reveal your source? I'd like to see which Breitbart article it is this time.
there is over 320 million people in the usa are you saying they tap all of them and trump just happened to be one of them Laughing
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Post by Freeza Mon Mar 27, 2017 6:32 pm

Unique wrote:
Freeza wrote:What are you laughing at? Please explain why they would target Trump specifically. And how would he know?

Also please reveal your source? I'd like to see which Breitbart article it is this time.
there is over 320 million people in the usa are you saying they tap all of them and trump just happened to be one of them Laughing


Everyone in the world is getting tapped by American intelligence.

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Post by Hapless_Hans Mon Mar 27, 2017 6:33 pm

Unique wrote:
Freeza wrote:What are you laughing at? Please explain why they would target Trump specifically. And how would he know?

Also please reveal your source? I'd like to see which Breitbart article it is this time.
there is over 320 million people in the usa are you saying they tap all of them and trump just happened to be one of them Laughing


Actually, they do hmm
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Post by Unique Mon Mar 27, 2017 6:36 pm

how long would it take to A. check the calls of over 300 million people and B. know if its the government that your tapping. they knew what they were doing ffs. had they recorded something bad they could leak it and that's the end of trump. but he knew what they were up to from the start. Wink
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Post by Freeza Mon Mar 27, 2017 6:38 pm

Unique wrote:how long would it take to A. check the calls of over 300 million people and B. know if its the government that your tapping. they knew what they were doing ffs. had they recorded something bad they could leak it and that's the end of trump. but he knew what they were up to from the start. Wink


Considering it's a computer doing the searching through every call. Probably a shorter amount of time than you'll take finding the source of your previous claim.

Still waiting.
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Post by Freeza Mon Mar 27, 2017 6:39 pm

Please watch this film, Unique

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt4044364/?ref_=nv_sr_3
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Post by Unique Mon Mar 27, 2017 6:44 pm

the USA has the capabilities to tap anyone in the world but that don't mean everyone is being tapped at the same time. it would be to much data to get trough. if you think they didn't know it was trump they were listening to then your crazy. you think they have the ability to tap the world but don't know who they are tapping. if that were true it would be pointless tapping anyone if you didn't know who they are. they were looking for dirt on trump and got cought so they said they never meant to do it.
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Post by Unique Mon Mar 27, 2017 6:47 pm

http://news.sky.com/story/congressman-devin-nunes-sorry-after-trump-surveillance-claim-row-10811503
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Post by Unique Mon Mar 27, 2017 6:49 pm

Freeza wrote:Please watch this film, Unique

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt4044364/?ref_=nv_sr_3
I will give that a watch it looks interesting.
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Post by Freeza Mon Mar 27, 2017 6:57 pm

Unique wrote:http://news.sky.com/story/congressman-devin-nunes-sorry-after-trump-surveillance-claim-row-10811503


You do realize that this article directly contradicts your Obama comments right?
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Post by Unique Mon Mar 27, 2017 7:39 pm

Freeza wrote:
Unique wrote:http://news.sky.com/story/congressman-devin-nunes-sorry-after-trump-surveillance-claim-row-10811503


You do realize that this article directly contradicts your Obama comments right?
yeah. but if they were doing it since he became president you can bet they were doing it before.
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Post by rincon Fri Mar 31, 2017 10:13 am

Flynn in 2016 when talking about Hilary's situation: "When you get given immunity that means you've probably committed a crime,"

Flynn in 2017: Fired Trump aide Michael Flynn wants immunity to testify on Russia allegations

http://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-39451358
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Post by Unique Fri Mar 31, 2017 12:46 pm

rincon wrote:Flynn in 2016 when talking about Hilary's situation: "When you get given immunity that means you've probably committed a crime,"

Flynn in 2017: Fired Trump aide Michael Flynn wants immunity to testify on Russia allegations

http://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-39451358
what is it they think the Russians did to influence the election. I mean trump runs because he wants to win and the American people vote so what could Russia do to affect that. scratch
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Post by Myesyats Fri Mar 31, 2017 1:51 pm

They should learn to lose. Putin is having a giggle.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WXtS35GPha8
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Post by DuringTheWar Sat Apr 01, 2017 2:20 pm

rincon wrote:Flynn in 2016 when talking about Hilary's situation: "When you get given immunity that means you've probably committed a crime,"

Flynn in 2017: Fired Trump aide Michael Flynn wants immunity to testify on Russia allegations

http://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-39451358


Is this the basis for the talk about immunity - "No reasonable person, who has the benefit of advice from counsel, would submit to questioning in such a highly politicized, witch-hunt environment without assurances against unfair prosecution," he said.

So I take it you and all the journalists promulgating this think immunity means an exemption from being prosecuted wrongly by a corrupt court?

Just what the hell is going on....
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Post by rincon Sat Apr 01, 2017 2:40 pm

Calm you paranoid brain. I posted an news story and a quote from the man in question himself. You are the only one making conjectures.
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Post by DuringTheWar Sat Apr 01, 2017 3:56 pm

Nah, calm yourself so you can type properly.

This thing so far is based on inferences made about what his lawyer meant. Doesn't seem like good journalism to me, to present your inferences as facts. I guess they are hoping he is guilty of something.
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Post by Firenze Fri Apr 07, 2017 3:18 am

The U.S. military launched approximately 50 cruise missiles at a Syrian military airfield late on Thursday, in the first direct American assault on the government of President Bashar al-Assad since that country’s civil war began six years ago.

The operation, which the Trump administration authorized in retaliation for a chemical attack killing scores of civilians this week, dramatically expands U.S. military involvement in Syria and exposes the United States to heightened risk of direct confrontation with Russia and Iran, both backing Assad in his attempt to crush his opposition.

President Trump said the strike was in the “vital national security interest” of the United States and called on “all civilized nations to join us in seeking to end the slaughter and bloodshed in Syria. And also to end terrorism of all kinds and all types.”

“We ask for God’s wisdom as we face the challenge of our very troubled world,” he continued. “We pray for the lives of the wounded and for the souls of those who have passed and we hope that as long as America stands for justice then peace and harmony will in the end prevail.”

The missiles were launched from two Navy destroyers — the USS Ross and USS Porter — in the eastern Mediterranean. They struck an airbase called Shayrat in Homs province, which is the site from which the planes that conducted the chemical attack in Idlib are believed to have originated. The targets included the runway as well as aircraft, hangars and fuel.

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Post by Firenze Fri Apr 07, 2017 3:21 am

apparently various branches of the US Government weren't even informed ahead of time when they should have been

but Russia were

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Post by sportsczy Fri Apr 07, 2017 3:42 am

Let's be clear here.

Russia was informed because there was Russian military at the base that was going to be bombed. You're not looking to start a war with Russia.

Second, the US had aircraft radars and satellites focused on that base before telling the Russians. If any Syrian personnel or materials were to be moved after telling the Russians... the US would have attacked the assets being moved. So it's not like Russia could do anything to help the Syrians on that base.

Third, read Rex Tillerson's statements post attack. Wow. Who would have thought under Donald Trump. He goes where the wind blows lol.
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Post by Blue Fri Apr 07, 2017 5:53 am

Assad is a scum and not a solution in Syria, but i don't think he used chemical weapons. He had nothing to gain, much more to lose. US policy under Trump was changing before the chem attack, removing Assad was not a priority anymore. Now things has shifted for the worse for him.

Then again with Iran and Russia on his side, you could argue that he has huge leverage. US intervention similar to 2013 will be limited.
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Post by free_cat Fri Apr 07, 2017 8:31 am

I for once applaud Trump, it would be time that the US intervened in Syria to rapidly end this conflict that is plaguing the poor people of the region.
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Post by MJ Fri Apr 07, 2017 9:08 am

free_cat wrote:I for once applaud Trump, it would be time that the US intervened in Syria to rapidly end this conflict that is plaguing the poor people of the region.


Yeah, finally, a US president brave enough to meddle in (and bomb) the Middle East. For the people! And for freedom!
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